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Rally for The Quinn-were you there?

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    #452
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Throw a stick out of any Dublin window and the odds are you'll hit someone from Kerry, Mayo or Meath.

    Why must the Dubs throw sticks and hit outsiders :(


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    #453
    Katunga
    Registered Users Posts: 659 ✭✭✭Katunga


    whats is wrong with people in Caven why would you support someone that cost over 500 million of damage to the state the must be MAD.


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    #454
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Katunga wrote: »
    whats is wrong with people in Caven why would you support someone that cost over 500 million of damage to the state the must be MAD.

    ...But ...but they created jobs!

    (Then dumped them quick flash to asset strip and shove the money elsewhere - but shush, we're not supposed to acknowledge that bit!)


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    #455
    vicwatson
    Registered Users Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Welcome to boards.

    Nice first post.


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    #456
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Katunga wrote: »
    whats is wrong with people in Caven why would you support someone that cost over 500 million of damage to the state the must be MAD.

    Hello? 70% of people voted FF/FG after they executed the €60bn Anglo bail-out fraud.

    By that standard most of Ireland are waaaaaaayyyyy more mad than people from Cavan.


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    #457
    Katunga
    Registered Users Posts: 659 ✭✭✭Katunga


    squod wrote: »
    Hello? 70% of people voted FF/FG after they executed the €60bn Anglo bail-out fraud.

    By that standard most of Ireland are waaaaaaayyyyy more mad than people from Cavan.

    How does that justify supporting the illegal actions of Sean Quinn. Take it you support him.


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    #458
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    MysticalRain wrote: »
    Gene Kerrigan hits the nail on the head in the Indo today:

    Quinn is no victim of a 'Dub conspiracy'
    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/gene-kerrigan/gene-kerrigan-quinn-is-no-victim-of-a-dub-conspiracy-3189926.html

    The Times (England) had similar comment - large comment.
    I can't re-print the whole thing here for board.ie legal copyright reasons but here is a small section (and the below is just a small section!):
    The wealthier they come, the less they pay for their crimes
    By Brenda Power.

    Anthony Lyons* and Seán Quinn are two smarmy, self-serving individuals who have exhibited no remorse for the harm they have caused. On the contrary, they both continue to insist they are victims themselves, and that behaviour they engaged in was entirely due to circumstances beyond their control.

    They both have so much pity for themselves they have none to spare for the casualties of their actions. Indeed, beneath the thinnest skim of requisite contrition, you can tell they are privately furious with the whimpering of those they’ve wronged.
    ...maybe we do need one law for the rich and one law for the poor; one for the weaklings and one for the powerful. On the evidence of the past week, there are a lot of people who certainly hold that view. The thousands who turned out in support of the Quinn family, including pillars of the church, the community and the GAA, seem to believe the business of giving truthful evidence on oath and paying your debts and abiding by court decisions are concerns that should not trouble our betters.

    Families across the country are threatened with homelessness and destitution because they can’t pay debts in four figures, and nobody holds monster rallies to support them.

    The forelock-tugging obeisance to the wealthy Quinns is proof that a craven reverence for people of status, which allowed crooked politicians and greedy bankers and overreaching developers to thrive during our fleeting boom, still flourishes in this country. Despite everything we now know it seems that money still talks.

    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/ireland/article1096619.ece

    * Anthony Lyons:
    This is the chap that paid off a victim to his sex attack, so that his court punishment would be less.


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    #459
    allthedoyles
    Registered Users Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Bit condescending apart from the juicy bit .

    Not a consumer issue - imo , but is easy to understand


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    #460
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users Posts: 24,087 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Some people have been told to shut up, but it looks like it's aimed at not only FG but GAA people as well.

    http://www.radiokerry.ie/news/

    Fine Gael issues warning to members not to comment on court cases

    1pm - Fine Gael has issued a warning to TDs and MEPs to refrain from commenting on cases that are before the court. Although no particular court case was mentioned, the communique is seen as a response to MEP Sean Kelly's support of bankrupt businessman Sean Quinn - according to today's Irish Independent. Earlier this week Mr Kelly - a native of Kilcummin and a former GAA president - gave an interview to Radio Kerry supporting those who attended a rally for the Quinn family. Sean Quinn's brother Peter is also a former GAA president. In a later statement Mr Kelly insisted people had a right to show their support under freedom of expression. However, speaking on Radio Kerry this morning, Mayor of Killarney Sean O'Grady said people can't have it both ways.


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    #461
    joseph brand
    Registered Users Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    awec wrote: »
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-19063419

    Lays out the facts pretty well IMO.
    Judge Elizabeth Dunne summarised this key argument in her contempt judgement: "Instead of trying to repay the admitted debt due, the Quinn family and in particular the respondents have taken every step possible to make it as difficult as can be to recover any amount due.

    "They have engaged in a complex, complicated and, no doubt, costly, series of steps designed to put the assets of the IPG (International Property Group) beyond the reach of Anglo, in a blatant, dishonest and deceitful manner.

    "They have consciously misled courts here and elsewhere. They have sought to deprive Anglo of the assets which would go some way to discharging an admitted indebtedness.

    "The behaviour of the respondents outlined in evidence before me is as far as removed from the concept of honour and respectability as it is possible to be."

    Crafty, greedy family.


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    #462
    LoYL
    Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭LoYL


    Vicxas wrote: »
    So they're supporting a fella who drove more than one multi million euro business' into the ground, and then tried to hide money from his creditors......




    What the FCUK is wrong with Ireland.

    Just look around boards.ie and you will begin to see the answer emerge clearly.


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    #463
    interesting to know
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭interesting to know


    allthedoyles wrote: »
    Bit condescending apart from the juicy bit .

    Not a consumer issue - imo , but is easy to understand

    It is not meant to be condescending and I apologise if it comes across that. It is meant to be a clear insight for ordinary people like myself into the whole fiasco.

    I don't have an accounting or banking background and I found the broadsheets failed to covey the whole story in a concise manner for non-bankers.

    It is not fair for the nationals to automatically assume that ordinary people like myself should know key terms.

    And I genuinely believe that there are large numbers of people both supporting and criticising Sean Quinn but don't have a proper understanding of the facts


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    #464
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    This situation is the exact same as people voting for crap TDs because they got the "de medjical card" or sorted out a bit of planning for them.

    Do something for someone in this country and you own them for life. We have a strange ability as a nation to develop a perverse loyalty to the ****tiest people.

    Is it some kind of "loveable rogue" thing or something? To quote the Simpsons, "Give us hell, Quimby!"


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    #465
    daenerysstormborn3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,213 ✭✭✭daenerysstormborn3


    Don't think this is the right forum but good post.


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    #466
    Procrastastudy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭Procrastastudy


    Any possibility of a bit of formatting?


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    #467
    dudara
    Registered Users Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Not a Consumer Issue. Moved to AH as I'm not sure where else would be best.

    dudara


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    #468
    Aint Eazy Being Cheezy
    Registered Users Posts: 4,631 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    Superbly explained. Sounds like Sean Quinn was badly advised though, which is why he's still garnering some sympathy.


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    #469
    kr7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 747 ✭✭✭kr7


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Some people have been told to shut up, but it looks like it's aimed at not only FG but GAA people as well.

    http://www.radiokerry.ie/news/


    More censorship by our 'leaders'?

    Quinn is wrong, very wrong but surely FG gagging their members is wrong too.

    We're entitled to know who we vote for and what they stand for!


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    #470
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Katunga wrote: »
    How does that justify supporting the illegal actions of Sean Quinn. Take it you support him.

    Dafuq ?


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    #471
    Andy-Pandy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,848 ✭✭✭Andy-Pandy


    The best and clearest explanation of something i've been struggling to understand fully. Thank you very much.


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    #472
    Cork boy 55
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


    bit long i could not read all that

    can someone summarize in a tweet please.


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    #473
    JustAddWater
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    Cork boy 55 wrote: »
    bit long i could not read all that

    can someone summarize in a tweet please.

    In 1 tweet :) ...

    Quinn took a risk, lost. Bank want money, he won't pay. Why do some people support him?


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    #474
    Alter-Ego
    Registered Users Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    Cork boy 55 wrote: »
    bit long i could not read all that

    can someone summarize in a tweet please.
    #quinnfcukeduprealbad


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    #475
    interesting to know
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭interesting to know


    GCDLawstudent wrote: »
    Any possibility of a bit of formatting?
    Done,


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    #476
    Carter P Fly
    Registered Users Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Carter P Fly


    However, the key question is, do these people really understand what they are supporting?

    Like religion, you can explain things to people until they are blue in the face but folk will always believe what they want to believe and see what the want to see.

    These sad sheeple see Sean as their sole source of income and gormlessly will sukle his teats so long as they believe he can still produce milk.

    It doesnt matter that hes a dirty dirty lying theieving scumbag who would slit any of their throats or wallets open if he felt the need to better himself or his scumspawn.


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    #477
    TheBody
    Registered Users Posts: 5,625 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Great post op. Are you the financial regulator Matthew Edlerfield :pac:


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    #478
    biddybops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭biddybops


    TheBody wrote: »
    Great post op. Are you the financial regulator Matthew Edlerfield :pac:
    I think it's matt the coop


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    #479
    interesting to know
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭interesting to know


    TheBody wrote: »
    Great post op. Are you the financial regulator Matthew Edlerfield :pac:
    I'm not, I'm just an average Joe. I just wanted to relay the facts. I have been asked by a number of people to attend the rally and when I ask them why they are attending, they state, Anglo is on a witchhunt.

    Anglo is on a hunt alright for irish taxpayers money currently residing in eastern Europe.


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    #480
    Super-Rush
    Registered Users Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    Gonna merge these as we're becoming overrun with threads about Sean Quinn.


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    #481
    interesting to know
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭interesting to know


    Super-Rush wrote: »
    Gonna merge these as we're becoming overrun with threads about Sean Quinn.

    Stay tuned next Sunday for the unravelling of an even bigger scandal - one which rock the farming community and yet again question the integrity of government bodies


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