Marinara Sauce

Scanlas The 2nd

Americans seem to think this sauce is Italian and eaten in Italy, if you went to Italy and asked for it in a restaurant they probably wouldn't have heard of this red slop.

What other things do Americans get wrong about different cultures?

( Not an anti American thread)

mauzo

Haha too early to be making me laugh.....

I'm not racist but......

Not an anti American thread, but.....

MadsL

Fail.

Marinara derives from the Italian word for sailor, marinaro. Due to these origins I have seen many people say that marinara sauce must contain something from the sea, usually anchovies. Actually this is not the case, the origins of marinara sauce are that it is the sauce that they made in Naples for the sailors when they returned from the sea.

http://italianchef.com/marinara-sauce/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marinara_sauce

Stupid Americans and their encyclopedias...why I oughtta....

crybaby

Reminds me of that episodes of the Sopranos where they go to Italy and all aul Paulie Walnuts wants is a bit of spaghetti and gravy but he keeps getting handed traditional Italian food instead.

Scanlas The 2nd

syndeyfife wrote: »

Haha too early to be making me laugh.....

I'm not racist but......

Not an anti American thread, but.....

I'm sure most countries get things wrong about different cultures, but since I'm not really aware of the opinions of the people of Madagascar on Italian cuisine discussing Americans is will have to do.

MadsL

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

I'm sure most countries get things wrong about different cultures, but since I'm not really aware of the opinions of the people of Madagascar on Italian cuisine discussing Americans is will have to do.

I really don't know where to start with this much Fail. The enormity of correcting you....agggggghhhhhh.


Oh look, a squirrel.

greenpilot

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

syndeyfife wrote: »

Haha too early to be making me laugh.....

I'm not racist but......

Not an anti American thread, but.....

I'm sure most countries get things wrong about different cultures, but since I'm not really aware of the opinions of the people of Madagascar on Italian cuisine discussing Americans is will have to do.

You never find Italian chippers in Italy either...

MadsL

In other news, Scotch eggs not Scottish shocker!

The London department store Fortnum & Mason claims to have invented Scotch eggs in 1738, but they may have been inspired by the Moghul dish nargisi kofta ("Narcissus meatballs")

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_egg

Hardonraging

I though this thread was about marina and the diamonds inventing a sauce ... disappointed i was

Davidth88

The most obvious one is pepperoni

In Italy this would refer to small peppers , not a type of salami at all

nbar12

Hi im America, but I am also a quarter Irish, quarter French, quarter Italian but I consider myself American Irish because you guys rock...

not an anti American comment

MadsL

Davidth88 wrote: »

The most obvious one is pepperoni

In Italy this would refer to small peppers , not a type of salami at all

Just a different name - pepperoni is “salame piccante"

MadsL

nbar12 wrote: »

Hi im America, but I am also a quarter Irish, quarter French, quarter Italian but I consider myself American Irish because you guys rock...

not an anti American comment

Are you dissing the French and Italians pal? What about your secret quarter? Is it shameful? Let me guess, Ginger?

nbar12

MadsL wrote: »

Are you dissing the French and Italians pal? What about your secret quarter? Is it shameful? Let me guess, Ginger?

The French are handball cheating b@stards so I don't want to be associated with them. The Italians are a great bunch of lads and it was merely a coin flip to decide which I would prefer to be between Irish and Italian. My secret quarter is for only me to know but I can tell you now it is not ginger because I have a soul and gingers do not have souls. I repeat, gingers do not have souls

MadsL

nbar12 wrote: »

The French are handball cheating b@stards so I don't want to be associated with them. The Italians are a great bunch of lads and it was merely a coin flip to decide which I would prefer to be between Irish and Italian. My secret quarter is for only me to know but I can tell you now it is not ginger because I have a soul and gingers do not have souls. I repeat, gingers do not have souls

Get to the point ffs! Is it ok to strike a girl under certain circumstances?

eth0

The Yanks: A great bunch of lads...

Shenshen

Davidth88 wrote: »

The most obvious one is pepperoni

In Italy this would refer to small peppers , not a type of salami at all

A friend of mine once apparently nearly got into an argument with a waiter while on holiday in Italy... she had asked for "no pepperoni" on her pizza, and got a pizza without chilies, but with salami.
She told me about it in a huff, and I had try so hard not to laugh while explaining to her what had happened.

MadsL

I was once told that a Pizza place (major US chain) did not serve Margherita pizza, couldnt help but wonder how hard it was to NOT put toppings on a pizza.

Fecking Yanks and their aversion to Tequila. Oh, wait.

biko

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

I'm sure most countries get things wrong about different cultures, but since I'm not really aware of the opinions of the people of Madagascar on Italian cuisine discussing Americans is will have to do.

How about Irish culture? Why do you have to ask about Americans. Are you American?
Sounds like a thinly veiled "Merican's soooo stoopid" thread.


On topic, refried beans aren't actually refried. It was a mistake to call them that.

Shenshen

biko wrote: »

How about Irish culture? Why do you have to ask about Americans. Are you American?
Sounds like a thinly veiled "Merican's soooo stoopid" thread.


On topic, refried beans aren't actually refried. It was a mistake to call them that.

Yep, chips with curry sauce on them is NOT Chinese food... I know this will come to a shock for many.

nbar12

top o the mornin to ya

policarp

Fred Astaire was a faucet dancer. . .

starbelgrade

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Americans seem to think this sauce is Italian and eaten in Italy,

That's because it is.

eth0

MadsL wrote: »

I was once told that a Pizza place (major US chain) did not serve Margherita pizza, couldnt help but wonder how hard it was to NOT put toppings on a pizza.

They have pizza with only tomatoe sauce. Shouldn't be allowed at all

Scanlas The 2nd

biko wrote: »

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

I'm sure most countries get things wrong about different cultures, but since I'm not really aware of the opinions of the people of Madagascar on Italian cuisine discussing Americans is will have to do.

How about Irish culture? Why do you have to ask about Americans. Are you American?
Sounds like a thinly veiled "Merican's soooo stoopid" thread.

Having just finished reading Alan Sugar's biography in which he mentions marinara sauce and how the waiter's in Italy never heard of it, I thought it was an interesting topic. He recommends the Irish to market some form of green sauce as Irish in America.

hardCopy

nbar12 wrote: »

Hi im America, but I am also a quarter Irish, quarter French, quarter Italian but I consider myself American Irish because you guys rock...

not an anti American comment

Hi America,

*waves*

Shenshen

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Having just finished reading Alan Sugar's biography in which he mentions marinara sauce and how the waiter's in Italy never heard of it, I thought it was an interesting topic. He recommends the Irish to market some form of green sauce as Irish in America.

We could just take this recipe and force them to change the name :

Saruman

MadsL wrote: »

I was once told that a Pizza place (major US chain) did not serve Margherita pizza, couldnt help but wonder how hard it was to NOT put toppings on a pizza.

Fecking Yanks and their aversion to Tequila. Oh, wait.

Just order a cheese pizza with some basil.

Madame K

Davidth88 wrote: »

The most obvious one is pepperoni

In Italy this would refer to small peppers , not a type of salami at all

In the US, though it may not be correct, the distinction is made between: peperoncini (sp?) refers to the little peppers and pepperoni is a type of salami.

Shenshen

Madame K wrote: »

In the US, though it may not be correct, the distinction is made between: peperoncini (sp?) refers to the little peppers and pepperoni is a type of salami.

As I understand, peperoncinos are sweet peppers in Italy, as opposed to peperoni, which are the hot varieties.

IrishAm

Corned beef and cabbage.

Its an Irish-American dish, not an Irish one.

The only cut of meat Irish emigrants could afford when they first arrived in America.

Its horrible. Pure peasant food.

Grayson

Freedom Fries (To be quite fair, it was not our transatlantic cousins best moment)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_fries

According to a statement released by Ney, this move was intended to express displeasure with France's "continued refusal to stand with their U.S. allies" (see Iraq disarmament crisis). The statement further read: "This action today is a small but symbolic effort to show the strong displeasure many on Capitol Hill have with our so-called ally, France."[1][2]
The Embassy of France in Washington, D.C. made no comment beyond pointing out that French fries come from Belgium

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_fries#Culinary_origin

Culinary origin

Belgium
Belgian journalist Jo Gérard has claimed that a family manuscript dated 1781 recounts that potatoes were deep-fried prior to 1680 in what was then the Spanish Netherlands and is now present-day Belgium, in the Meuse valley: "The inhabitants of Namur, Andenne, and Dinant, had the custom of fishing in the Meuse for small fish and frying, especially among the poor, but when the river was frozen and fishing became hazardous, they cut potatoes in the form of small fish and put them in a fryer like those here".[11][12] Gérard has not produced the manuscript supporting this claim which, even if true, is unrelated to the later history of the French fry, as the potato did not arrive in the region until around 1735; also, given the economic conditions of the 18th century: "it is absolutely unthinkable that a peasant could have consecrated large quantities of fat for cooking potatoes. At most they were sautéed in a pan...."[13] Some Belgians believe that the term "French" was introduced when American soldiers arrived in Belgium during World War I, and consequently tasted Belgian fries. They supposedly called them "French," as it was the official language of the Belgian Army at that time.[11] At this time French fries were growing popular. However, in the south of Netherlands, bordering Belgium, they were, and still are, called Vlaamse Frieten or "Flemish fries."
"Pommes frites," "frites"(French) or "frieten" (Dutch) became the national snack and a substantial part of several national dishes.

Hande hoche!

It's been too long since I've had a meatball sub.

Saruman

IrishAm wrote: »

Its horrible. Pure peasant food.

Peasant food can often be the best kind of food.

Czech food is all peasant food.

IrishAm

Saruman wrote: »

Peasant food can often be the best kind of food.

Czech food is all peasant food.

But that's tasty. Nicely seasoned pork, few dumplings.

Corned beef and cabbage is anything but.

mauzo

IrishAm wrote: »

Saruman wrote: »

Peasant food can often be the best kind of food.

Czech food is all peasant food.

But that's tasty. Nicely seasoned pork, few dumplings.

Corned beef and cabbage is anything but.

Corned beef and cabbage is absolutely delicious

IrishAm

syndeyfife wrote: »

Corned beef and cabbage is absolutely delicious

Takes all sorts, I suppose.

Saruman

syndeyfife wrote: »

Corned beef and cabbage is absolutely delicious

Agreed... not that I eat it ever but it's still lovely from memory. I don't eat beef anymore except for the odd slice of steak or if I have no other choice.

Just like in the US, meatloaf always has this negative thing going on when in fact I loved it when I had it a few times.

Bad Panda

Marinara sauce not Italian!?

Jesus, even with Google at your disposal you've failed miserably!

Seaneh

IrishAm wrote: »

Corned beef and cabbage.

Its an Irish-American dish, not an Irish one.

The only cut of meat Irish emigrants could afford when they first arrived in America.

Its horrible. Pure peasant food.

corned beef, or saltbeef as we call it in this part of the world, is a lot more expensive than bacon. the reason irish people started eating it in the us was because newly arrived irish in NYC couldnt buy bacon because most of the butchers were jewish and salt beef was the closest thing to bacon they could find.

saltbeef is nothing like the ****e we call corned beef here, its yummy.

the basis of the worlds greatest sammich, the Reuben.

IrishAm

Not a big fan, man. Bacon and cabbage is where its at.

And the best sandwich in the world is the BLT(with Irish rasher)!

starbelgrade

Seaneh wrote: »

saltbeef is nothing like the ****e we call corned beef here, its yummy.

You can get excellent quality salt / corned beef in Ireland.

Granted, it's harder to find than the crap they sell in tins in the supermarket, but it's not impossible to find.

It's also very easy to make.

mhigh86

IrishAm wrote: »

Not a big fan, man. Bacon and cabbage is where its at.

And the best sandwich in the world is the BLT(with Irish rasher)!

MMmmmhh, got to go and have my luch now.........

fishy fishy

ime Americans tend to not know what spaghetti bolognaise is, they would have spaghetti and meatballs as their dish.

Shryke

I'm not racist, but let's lynch that black guy.. Because aliens.

starbelgrade

fishy fishy wrote: »

ime Americans tend to not know what spaghetti bolognaise is,

Neither do most Italians - Spaghetti Bolognese is a bastardisation of an Italian dish that originated in Bologna as a simple ragu & pasta dish. The ragu is mixed with the pasta (usually tagiatelle), not served on top of it & it rarely contains tomatoes or tomato sauce.

And it's never, ever served with spaghetti.

Shenshen

starbelgrade wrote: »

Neither do most Italians - Spaghetti Bolognese is a bastardisation of an Italian dish that originated in Bologna as a simple ragu & pasta dish. The ragu is mixed with the pasta (usually tagiatelle), not served on top of it & it rarely contains tomatoes or tomato sauce.

And it's never, ever served with spaghetti.

Erm... did I use to work with you?
Italians are divided on this issue, at least in our office. We used to have a colleague who would blow a fuse anytime someone mentioned Spaghetti Bolognaise, and would give out if she spotted people bringing it in for lunch.
The remaining 3 Italians assured us that as far as they were concerned, Spaghetti Bolognaise was a fine dish.

fishy fishy

starbelgrade wrote: »

Neither do most Italians - Spaghetti Bolognese is a bastardisation of an Italian dish that originated in Bologna as a simple ragu & pasta dish. The ragu is mixed with the pasta (usually tagiatelle), not served on top of it & it rarely contains tomatoes or tomato sauce.

And it's never, ever served with spaghetti.

not in my experience during my many visits to Italy. maybe you just met a narky Italian.


Spag Bog IS known in Italy and IS served with spaghetti.

mhigh86

fishy fishy wrote: »

not in my experience during my many visits to Italy. maybe you just met a narky Italian.


Spag Bog IS known in Italy and IS served with spaghetti.

Ah yes Spago Bogio

dan1895

mhigh86 wrote: »

Ah yes Spago Bogio

Great footballer! Pity about that penalty miss.

Seaneh

starbelgrade wrote: »

You can get excellent quality salt / corned beef in Ireland.

Granted, it's harder to find than the crap they sell in tins in the supermarket, but it's not impossible to find.

It's also very easy to make.

I tend to make my own myself but yeah there are some butchers who make a good brine alright.

By the ****e we call corned beef here I meant the crap you get sliced at a deli counter/from a can, not proper salt beef.