Shop worker stabbed as he waited 25 mins for Gardai

davet82

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/brave-shop-worker-stabbed-as-he-waited-for-gardai-3186240.html

"A fella with a mask walked into the shop. He took the money from the till and as he was leaving Jahan hit the panic button and he was wrestled to the ground,"

"They struggled with him for about 25 minutes while they waited for guards to arrive.

I can't help think that if the panic button was hit in a bank the responce time would have alot shorter! What would be the expected responce time for incidents like this, anybody know?

The shop is in James Street in Dublin City Centre so I would have persumed it would have been quicker than 25 minutes although it was a Saturday (no time given in the article) and we all know how much time drink related incidents on Saturdays consume garda resources.

Anyways fair play to the chap for tackling this scumbag, I dont think I'd be as brave tbh

hardCopy

Response time should have been much quicker than that, more Gards than ever on the street at peak times with the new rosters.

later12

davet82 wrote: »

Anyways fair play to the chap for tackling this scumbag, I dont think I'd be as brave tbh

Brave or foolish?

I hope he recovers fully from this attack, but really, aside from the slow Police response, what on Earth was he thinking? wrestling a guy with a syringe full of blood for what, a few hundred Euro

I heard a friend of his talk about him on the news, sounds like a nice guy; must be awful to be separated from his family at a time like this.

It was both brave and stupid.
Feel sorry for the chap, Gardai could've been a bit quicker allright.

IrishAm

A brave but ultimately, a foolish dude. If a junkie comes at you with a blood(HIV?) filled syringe you let him take whatever the hell he wants.

davet82

later12 wrote: »

Brave or foolish?

i'd have to say foolish too tbh

the chap is probably on minimun wage and to take a blood filled syringe in the arm for a few lousy quid does seem a bit crazy, I wonder will Spar even pay him for his time off, I doubt it

Sappa

Poor lad,
He came here from Pakistan in 2002 worked hard,studied a bit and met his wife from Latvia in 2005.
He has been in the job since he came to Ireland and kept his head down,non drinker ,non smoker apparently.
In hindsight he risked too much by showing his bravery.
Anyone using a syringe in an attack should receive the sane sentence as a firearm charge.

biko

We need more old men, these guys just tied the thief up and left him on the street.

IrishAm

Sappa wrote: »

Poor lad,
He came here from Pakistan in 2002 worked hard,studied a bit and met his wife from Latvia in 2005.

At the same time his student visa was about to run out. Remarkable!

IrishAm

biko wrote: »

We need more old men, these guys just tied the thief up and left him on the street.

Don't fuck with veterans.

Gyalist

IrishAm wrote: »

At the same time his student visa was about to run out. Remarkable!

Do you know this for a fact? Is there no limit to how low you are prepared to go to make your point about immigration/immigrants? Somehow you managed to ignore that he has been married for seven years.

MagicSean

davet82 wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/brave-shop-worker-stabbed-as-he-waited-for-gardai-3186240.html



I can't help think that if the panic button was hit in a bank the responce time would have alot shorter! What would be the expected responce time for incidents like this, anybody know?

The shop is in James Street in Dublin City Centre so I would have persumed it would have been quicker than 25 minutes although it was a Saturday (no time given in the article) and we all know how much time drink related incidents on Saturdays consume garda resources.

Anyways fair play to the chap for tackling this scumbag, I dont think I'd be as brave tbh

Panic alarms don't go straight to Gardaí. They go to the monitoring company who ring a dispatcher who patches them through to the Gardaí who takes the details and dispatches a unit. So it's not really possible to say where the delay was.

old hippy

IrishAm wrote: »

At the same time his student visa was about to run out. Remarkable!

What the hell does that have to do with anything?

stovelid

I had to hit the panic button when I was held up once years ago (coincidentally quite near there) and they got there really quickly so maybe it was bad luck: lot of robberies happening concurrently or something.

And as for taking a needle to save the shop takings? No fucking way.

The panic button is usually out of sight, often on the floor. Should have waited until he was leaving before hitting it.

IrishAm

Gyalist wrote: »

Do you know this for a fact? Is there limit no how low you are prepared to go to make your point about immigration/immigrants? Somehow you managed to ignore that he has been married for seven years.

lol

POOR, young Latvian women are being lured to Ireland with promises of up to €10,000 to "marry" illegal immigrants here, men mainly from Pakistan, most of whom are believed to have wives back in their home countries.

Adverts have been placed in Latvia and, it is believed other Baltic states, seeking women to come to Ireland to marry illegal immigrants over the past two years.

The Latvian authorities are apparently amazed at Ireland's lax controls over arranged or bogus marriages.

Scioch

Problem with those panic buttons is that the alarm doesnt notify the Gardai. It notifies a private security company who then attempt to call to store to determine whether or not its a false alarm, then the notify the Gardai if they get no response. The Gardai probably deal with it as possible incident rather than the wheels screeching something going down response a phones call saying "Being robbed at knife point" would get.

Carazy

25 minutes isn't that long for the Gardai and to be honest if I was stabbed I'd rather have an ambulance come before the Gardai, non-story.

Goat the dote

As an aside do the blood filled syringes "always" contain HIV infected blood or is it just the threat that works?

stovelid

IrishAm wrote: »

At the same time his student visa was about to run out. Remarkable!

Nice.

dodderangler

A few year ago I prob would tackle someone down for doing it but now wih a family and child to care for I wouldn't take the risk of being killed and leavin them behind

IrishAm

stovelid wrote: »

Nice.

Thanks, man.

Gyalist

Goat the dote wrote: »

As an aside do the blood filled syringes "always" contain HIV infected blood or is it just the threat that works?

It's the threat that works. My business was held up once by a guy waving a syringe in the assistant's face.

Goat the dote

Goat the dote wrote: »

As an aside do the blood filled syringes "always" contain HIV infected blood or is it just the threat that works?

I don't think anyone gives a **** what the blood contains, just keep it away from me FFS.

IrishAm

If we had the right to bear arms this sort of sh*t would cease.

Kess73

IrishAm wrote: »

At the same time his student visa was about to run out. Remarkable!

Even if your "claim" is true, who gives a toss. I still bet the shop guy has been a better citizen and contributed more by way of taxes, not being a scumbag etc than the waste of skin criminal who thought it fine to rob a shop and carry a syringe as a weapon.

The only person who should be condemned is the scumbag,

DipStick McSwindler

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hardCopy

IrishAm wrote: »

lol

Regardless of his immigration status, we could do with more people like him in the country. Hard-working civic minded people who won't take sh1t from the local pond-life.

stovelid

Goat the dote wrote: »

As an aside do the blood filled syringes "always" contain HIV infected blood or is it just the threat that works?

Like you're going to risk trying to find just out to save your boss 60 or 70 quid.

Karmafaerie

I work in a shop in Dublin City centre myself.
I'm used to calling the Gardai and having their "15 minutes" taking an hour.
The biscuit was well and truely taken a few week back however when I called about a fairly serious issue, but was told they couldn't send anyone, as Westlife were playing that night.

I didn't know the Gardai were such big fans.:rolleyes:

IrishAm

Kess73 wrote: »

Even if your "claim" is true, who gives a toss. I still bet the shop guy has been a better citizen and contributed more by way of taxes, not being a scumbag etc than the waste of skin criminal who thought it fine to rob a shop and carry a syringe as a weapon.

True. But he is not a citizen of Ireland. And I made my claim purely from looking at the stats.

I'd bet my claim is right, too.

Fuinseog

davet82 wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/brave-shop-worker-stabbed-as-he-waited-for-gardai-3186240.html



I can't help think that if the panic button was hit in a bank the responce time would have alot shorter! What would be the expected responce time for incidents like this, anybody know?

The shop is in James Street in Dublin City Centre so I would have persumed it would have been quicker than 25 minutes although it was a Saturday (no time given in the article) and we all know how much time drink related incidents on Saturdays consume garda resources.

Anyways fair play to the chap for tackling this scumbag, I dont think I'd be as brave tbh

i lived in the area and when i rang the guards they were there within 60 seconds.