Bog defeats Shell drilling machine.

Plazaman

Could be worse, the could be minding an exciting machine. There'd be no talking to them then.

Duggy747

How long before one of the protesters will claim that drill tried to rape them and send out an edited video that records just whirring sounds. :pac:

Hardonraging

Duggy747 wrote: »

How long before one of the protesters will claim that drill tried to rape them and send out an edited video that records just whirring sounds. :pac:

Haa Ha !!! brilliant !!!

Ms.M

Duggy747 wrote: »

How long before one of the protesters will claim that drill tried to rape them and send out an edited video that records just whirring sounds. :pac:

You made me laugh at a post with "rape" in it!

How dare ya! :pac:

You're not even getting a thanks!

--Kaiser--

I hope the Gardai have been practising their drills

I thought this was going to be about a machine that could bore into your mind

sebastianlieken

bluewolf wrote: »

I thought this was going to be about a machine that could bore into your mind

Well this thread has left my mind feeling bored anyway.

mike65

In before Run to da Hills.

Johnnio13

seamus wrote: »

If you didn't have a big camp of foreign crusties threatening to incite violence and vandalism, the Garda presence wouldn't be necessary.

Don't complain about the Gardai, complain about the scumbags - they're the reason the Gardai are there.

In any case, I actually can't see any Gardai in the main image on the site...

Not complaining about the Gardai. In the video that is on the site - there is four out riders, 2 cars, a horse unit and Shell's own security van. That seems a lot for a road-trip to Mayo. What are the horses for?

Not just foreign crusties - there are plenty of local crusties as well. Galway appears almost empty without them.

Jester252

Take you Shell to sea for wasting gardai resources

Capt'n Midnight

Any update on why the truck jack knifed ?

It's not like the number of incidents of bridge strikes didn't increase ten fold a few years ago.

Morag

It's still stuck
http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0731/shell-lorry-blocking-co-mayo-crossroads.html#article

They are widening the road to try and get it moving again.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4393245067629

SocSocPol

seamus wrote: »

If you didn't have a big camp of foreign crusties threatening to incite violence and vandalism, the Garda presence wouldn't be necessary.

Don't complain about the Gardai, complain about the scumbags - they're the reason the Gardai are there.

In any case, I actually can't see any Gardai in the main image on the site...

Couldn't agree more, and what are these crusties living on? No doubt SW!

SocSocPol

Fenian Army wrote: »

They can claim back expenses against tax on profits down the line anyway, so either way we pay.

Wouldn't matter if Shel do pay the cops, they are divirted away from other duties

They have a Duty to keep the peace, Shell are wholley lawfully engaging in business, the Gardai are required because of the actions of those illegally attempting to prevent Shell going about their business.
If you want to balme anyone for the amount of garda man hour used up, blame the Shell to Sea nutcases.

Iwannahurl

Is this is where the truck is stuck?

If so, did the driver take a wrong turn? Seems like a ridiculously small road for such a load to be travelling on.

pcworldisajoke

This whole shell situation makes me ashamed to be Irish. Our own cops beating up our own people and working for an international corporation hell bent on destroying the planet for pure profit. Whatever about who is causing what, these people are protesting for something they believe in.

I have no faith in our democratic process, nor our political leaders who were bent and corrupt to let this awful deal happen in the first place- numbered offshore bank accounts nicely filled when this deal was struck im sure. They are traitors and should be done for treason. We're a joke of a nation.

Capt'n Midnight

pcworldisajoke wrote: »

I have no faith in our democratic process,

so what do you suggest replacing it with ?

also if you don't vote you have no right to complain about it.

LiamoSail

pcworldisajoke wrote: »

This whole shell situation makes me ashamed to be Irish. Our own cops beating up our own people and working for an international corporation hell bent on destroying the planet for pure profit. Whatever about who is causing what, these people are protesting for something they believe in.

The Garda are preventing people breaking the law. It doesn't matter what their nationality is, you can't expect the Garda to allow it

Shell are not hell bent on destroying the planet for pure profit. Knowing a few lads who work for them, I can only go on their experiences

The people may be protesting for something they believe in, doesn't make it right though if their actions are illegal

pcworldisajoke wrote: »

I have no faith in our democratic process, nor our political leaders who were bent and corrupt to let this awful deal happen in the first place- numbered offshore bank accounts nicely filled when this deal was struck im sure. They are traitors and should be done for treason. We're a joke of a nation.

I too have little faith in our politicians, however can you give any examples in which a Government has achieved much more from a similar field? Given the likelihood of finding gas which would be financially viable to extract, the deal was sound

Seems to me that you don't really know much about the oil and gas industries, but you've heard people say things about it, and fancy yourself as a bit of hippy so jumped on the bandwagon

pcworldisajoke

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

so what do you suggest replacing it with ?

also if you don't vote you have no right to complain about it.

what kind of a fool infers that I don't vote, because I have no faith in it?

and what kind of a fool infers that I have no right to complain about it if I don't participate?

So I have no right to complain about, let's say, protesters being beaten up because I don't p[articipate in the protests?

Your logic is a mess, seek help.

pcworldisajoke

LiamoSail wrote: »

The Garda are preventing people breaking the law. It doesn't matter what their nationality is, you can't expect the Garda to allow it

Shell are not hell bent on destroying the planet for pure profit. Knowing a few lads who work for them, I can only go on their experiences

The people may be protesting for something they believe in, doesn't make it right though if their actions are illegal



I too have little faith in our politicians, however can you give any examples in which a Government has achieved much more from a similar field? Given the likelihood of finding gas which would be financially viable to extract, the deal was sound

Seems to me that you don't really know much about the oil and gas industries, but you've heard people say things about it, and fancy yourself as a bit of hippy so jumped on the bandwagon

i dont fancy myself as a bit of a hippy pal. I work in a scion of the industry actually. you're a presumptuous sort aren't you?

oh god, the more I think about it, i'm bailing out before I get sucked in, you people are pathetic.

--Kaiser--

pcworldisajoke wrote: »

i dont fancy myself as a bit of a hippy pal. I work in a scion of the industry actually. you're a presumptuous sort aren't you?

oh god, the more I think about it, i'm bailing out before I get sucked in, you people are pathetic.

Run along then

LiamoSail

pcworldisajoke wrote: »

i dont fancy myself as a bit of a hippy pal. I work in a scion of the industry actually. you're a presumptuous sort aren't you?

oh god, the more I think about it, i'm bailing out before I get sucked in, you people are pathetic.

Good to see the art of debate is alive and well

end of the road

LiamoSail wrote: »

Bastard foreign companies coming over here, paying into our economy..

yeah because were going to get the majority of the proffits from the gass? we'l get nothing because the cycle of politicians bailing out their cronies will continue and they will need that money.

mitosis

Sharrow wrote: »

It's still stuck
http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0731/shell-lorry-blocking-co-mayo-crossroads.html#article

They are widening the road to try and get it moving again.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4393245067629

Looks like it sank back out of the bog, then. :rolleyes:

Urban75 and facebook are not sources ffs.

Naomi00

Hope it sinks to the bottom :pac:

Sky King

Finaly, a thread about cranes!

God, I love cranes so I do.

Naomi00

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Is this is where the truck is stuck?

If so, did the driver take a wrong turn? Seems like a ridiculously small road for such a load to be travelling on.

That's actually not a bad road compared to some other ones here..

end of the road

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

if you don't vote you have no right to complain about it.

actually yes you do. its not illegal. if i don't vote on something and i want to complain about it later on i can and i will no problem.

Doom

I'm shocked to see that many Gardai up there, in some of the pictures on The Journal web site, pity they're bosses didn't think some peoples lives where that important by properly preventing crime in the likes of Dublin and Limerick

slimjimmc

Thatnastyboy wrote: »

Re: cranes not able to lift more tham 160t :pac::pac::pac:


If you dont trust one, use two

http://www.irishcranehire.com/2009/crane_item.php?crane=7

http://www.irishcranehire.com/2009/crane_item.php?crane=9

Forget those tiddlers, try one of these monsters. One is plenty, especially if that's all you could get close enough to the site.

Pottler

Considering the machinery value being moved, the chances are that it is practically irreplaceable without losing years, the extreme size, you have to wonder, what numpty was put in charge of planning the route, and did the driver stray off it? If that was the planned route, PPPLPPP lads. Blushes all round.
Problem is not getting a strong enough crane, I'd say the issue is siting a crane like that - unlikly the road would be wide or strong enough and a pad would need to be built. They need a me, cos if that was my tbm, i'd use the routeplanner and driver as jackstays for the crane and their flutes as flyjibs.

Cuddlesworth

You can see pretty clearly in one of the "road widening" videos that the road collapsed on the turn, there is a broken white centre line with the jagged edge of the torn road two feet away from it.

And the fact that the now parked trailer has sunk so badly into the road shows the quality of the foundation for that particular section.

I think its fair to say its not particularly the route planners fault for that and I can't blame the driver for saying he won't go any further. A jackknifed trailer with that weight and even a small drop could send that truck flying.

Halloran springs

Pottler wrote: »

Problem is not getting a strong enough crane, I'd say the issue is siting a crane like that - unlikly the road would be wide or strong enough and a pad would need to be built. They need a me, cos if that was my tbm, i'd use the routeplanner and driver as jackstays for the crane and their flutes as flyjibs.

I have no idea what you just said

Toby Take a Bow

I hope Shell put more time and energy into getting the gas onshore safely than they do running a truck down a road.

Pottler

Halloran springs wrote: »

I have no idea what you just said

transl: use another road ftw.

Mayo_Boy

LiamoSail wrote: »

If it were a choice between Shell or Mayo, I wish Mayo would fook off to sea

Fúck you príck

JupiterKid

It just goes to show that many, if not most, of our country local roads are poorly built and will need new foundations and re-laying.

KeithM89_old

Mayo_Boy wrote: »

Fúck you príck

Banned.

westendgirlie

Just let the council road workers, laden with irish pride sandwiches near the hole in the road. The problem would be sorted in no time

Iwannahurl

slimjimmc wrote: »

Forget those tiddlers, try one of these monsters. One is plenty, especially if that's all you could get close enough to the site.

Thing is, how close could one of those monsters actually get?

Without becoming stuck...

Pottler

JupiterKid wrote: »

It just goes to show that many, if not most, of our country local roads are poorly built and will need new foundations and re-laying.

Indeed. We are feckin inundated with 160 ton tunneling machines round here, Kildare co.co need to up their game. So, are we gonna update them all now, or just the most used ones? They can't fix the potholes genius, they're hardly going to dig them all up and start from scratch.

Boombastic

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Thing is, how close could one of those monsters actually get?

Without becoming stuck...

Emmm...Doesn't Mayo have a coast? Why does it need to come by land at all?



Now, whose going to pay for fixing the roads?

Cienciano

Doom wrote: »

I'm shocked to see that many Gardai up there, in some of the pictures on The Journal web site, pity they're bosses didn't think some peoples lives where that important by properly preventing crime in the likes of Dublin and Limerick

You're actually saying that the Gardai should be out catching criminals? You should tell a garda that next time you meet one.

errlloyd

slimjimmc wrote: »

Forget those tiddlers, try one of these monsters. One is plenty, especially if that's all you could get close enough to the site.

Its a 96 tn crane with a 202 tn counter weight, send that to get the thing out and all of Mayo will ****ing sink.

Iwannahurl

Boombastic wrote: »

Emmm...Doesn't Mayo have a coast? Why does it need to come by land at all?

The rescue crane will need a long reach so.

Boombastic

Iwannahurl wrote: »

The rescue crane will need a long reach so.

I only copped after I posted that you were on about the crane, I was on about transporting the drill

Iwannahurl

You have a point then: why wasn't the original load transported by sea?

Personally I have no idea of the set-up in Rossport, so I don't know what would be feasible.

AngryHippie

http://www.equipmenthandbooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Liebherr-LR13000-9757-533x800.jpg

Pick one

vicwatson

If these trucks are blocking a public road then surely the Gardai will have to give them a ticket no?

Aren't they obliged to uphold the law of the land?

pcworldisajoke

Cienciano wrote: »

You're actually saying that the Gardai should be out catching criminals? You should tell a garda that next time you meet one.

he has a great point.

The amount of crime in Dublin is unreal. Two freinds of mine were assalted recently and robbed- serious assaults like. One didnt go to the hospital cos it was a saturday night- he had to fight for 2 weeks to get someone to take a statement. The other had to go down and do a survey of cctv possible captures, when he heard nothing for 2 weeks, and they said they didnt know if there was any CCTV in the area. half the guards don't care anymore (really dont care, and who can blame them - i know one, and he has given up) and half of them are snowed under.

I live near Phibsboro in cabra, and i swear to christ, there's burglaries every day. Drug deals openly happening on the hump over the road into cabra. Scum of the earth cycling down ulster street and the windy roads up there on bikes trying to snatch purses and phones out of people's hands.

Listen to Joe ( for all his faults, he performs a service) on liveline this week, and listen to the amount of crime that is happening in this country. lsiten to the rural garda stations that are being shut. And now witness the amount of garda resources we are giving to an oil company that has proven itself to be an environmental satan, and purely driven by greed and profit - currently en route to destroy the arctic, and already admitting it cant meet the EPA standards, and spill response standards, and yet is still pushing ahead. And then pause....

To all you fools with your contrarian bullsh*t attitudes, and drillbabydrill muppetry, you haven't a clue. Our nation, is a corrupt cesspool. This whole shell situation wouldn't need policing if we had only got a fair deal. Any other country in the world would have had the BALLS to change this deal, to hell with the implications; none would have blamed us.

'Dear world, we're upping our percentage of the Shell deal because it's ours, and the previous deal means the Irish people don't get anything for whatever reason. If a country standing up for what is fair, and demonstrating the intelligence to broker a fair deal is not what you're looking for, then f*ck off somewhere else"

I guarantee not ONE company would decide to not invest here if we changed the deal and made it fair.

We're a f*cking joke of a nation, im ashamed to be Irish, and every politician in this country that sits idly by and doesnt attempt to redress thsi situation is traitorous treasonous scum- and i'll gladly say that to their faces.

Ashamed to be Irish I am, with the sick, and deprived in this country, and we haven't the balls to take a piece of what's ours. Ashamed to be Irish. joke of a nation. Scumlot of politicians looking after each other.