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Cheaper to live in Kildare and commute to Dublin?

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  • 01-08-2012 3:36pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 14


    Hi all,

    I will be starting work in Dublin City in September. Accommodation in Dublin is so expensive and (I know I might sound stupid here) I don't fancy moving in with people I don't know. I haven't had any luck in finding people to live with up there so was considering renting a 1 bed in the kildare area which works out about the same as what you could pay for a room in a house in Dublin.

    I understand I would obviously have the extra expense of commuting in and out every day but at least I would have the comfort of my own space.

    I'm just not sure if it will actually save me in the long run! Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    It might not save you much, it may even cost you more, but having your own space with peace & quiet has a considerable value of it's own. In that situation I'd probably get the one bed and commute but only you can really decide how much 'peace' is worth to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    If you work in the city centre the commute won't be too bad. Kildare Town, Newbridge, Naas and Celbridge are all on the Arrow line, this has regular services to Heuston. After that it's then the bus or Luas.


    Naas is probably the best town for socialising but the arrow leaves from Sallins so you would need to drive or get the bus that is provided. From Newbridge it is close to the town and I know there are Apts in an estate called College Farm, there is a shotcut to the station, so a 5-10 min walk depending on your speed! Not so sure about Celbridge. Also look at Maynooth, but prices are probably similar to Dublin.

    You need to pay to park at the train stations now and I'm not sure of the cost.

    Another option is to drive to the Red Cow and get the luas into town.

    I haven't used the train in years, but it was very unreliable in winter - leaves on the track etc. A monthly/yearly ticket with a connection for the bus/luas would be the cheapest option.

    Good luck with the move!


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,299 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Look at some of the nearer commuter towns, such as Celbridge/Maynooth/Leixlip, etc.

    I give these as examples, as they all have rail links to the city. If you're in the 18-25 age bracket, Maynooth has a college which in turn ensures a nice nightlife.

    BUT, it depends where you shall be working.

    Example; if you were working in Swords, and you were living in Maynooth, you could be looking at a 1.5 to 2 hour commute each way.

    Unless you have your own car, it'd be advisable to live somewhere that you only need to take one bus or train to get to your destination. Also, to ensure that there is more than one bus per hour, in case you miss "the usual bus".

    Are you working in the city centre, or in the north, west or south of the city?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 teacher711


    Thanks so much for all the tips! Lots to take in :)

    I'm going to be right in the city centre and I do have my own car which is good in the sense that I'm not limited to places with a train service!

    I had been looking at Monasterevin as that has the train option or maybe Clane as that seems to be less of a commute. Aaaagh so much to think about! :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 179 ✭✭Gary The Gamer


    No offence but you are setting yourself up for one grim, pointless existence. Living out in Monasterevin on your own with no links to the town. Spending your day working in the city and then a big long commute home to an empty house with little potential for cultivating a social life there or in Dublin.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭DublinDilbert


    I'm not sure why anyone would commute such distances if it could be avoided.

    With the cost of petrol you'd be putting min of €70 each week into the car, why not put the €300 towards your rent? Never mind maintence on the car, your time and your sanity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭doolox


    .....on The Western Commuter Line serving to Connolly and Pearse Station might be an answer. With the car you would be in easy reach of Maynooth for a bit of a social life ( mostly students with the nearby college but depending on your age and profession ( Teacher?) you may be able to find some connection with the staff at the college).

    Also the college would be very useful for night courses to further your career if you were that way inclined. I know nothing about the towns of central and south kildare but spent 15 yrs working in Leixlip and most people found it OK.

    Huge plusses for thsi area are the Royal canal for boating fishing and walks along the towpath, accessable from Maynooth, Kilcock and Enfield.

    Several horse farms (Studs) do horse riding lessons by the hour, great fun if you have never done it before.

    Canoeing is available in Kilcock and Lucan.

    Because Kilcock and Enfield are on the old Galway-Dublin road there is also an hourly bus service to Bus Arus.

    It depends where in the city centre you are working.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,994 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Any nice 1 beds I saw in good locations like Cellbridge or Leixlip were around 700-800. Considering the transport costs and the time spent travelling, would it not be a better option to look at renting in town in around the 1k mark.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 511 ✭✭✭col.in.Cr


    teacher711 wrote: »
    Thanks so much for all the tips! Lots to take in :)

    I'm going to be right in the city centre and I do have my own car which is good in the sense that I'm not limited to places with a train service!

    I had been looking at Monasterevin as that has the train option or maybe Clane as that seems to be less of a commute. Aaaagh so much to think about! :)

    Do yourself a favour and avoid Clane,its a ****hole


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,852 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    where in dublin will you be working and is giving up the car if central an option?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 37,299 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    where in dublin will you be working and is giving up the car if central an option?
    Most decent apartments have underground car parking, so I don't see why they should get rid of the car.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 teacher711


    I appreciate all your comments! Maybe I am mad, I just love the idea of having my own place! Its not that I'm unsociable or anything...........I guess with all things considered it would work out as expensive as living in the city centre, not to mention the exhaustion and monotony of commuting!

    Just need to get myself together now and find something asap! Wish me luck! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭ckeogh


    Hey,
    Im living in newbridge & used to commute to jervis for work by train, one word: nightmare! It was so expensive plus the 5.30-6am start to get showered, shaved, have a breakfast & walk to train station (which is on other side of town to me) just to make it in on time for 9am. This was a few years ago tho, things have changed since then.

    Now there is the option of the Dublin coach (green bus) which leaves at 10 past every hour (normally 15-20mins past the hour if heavy traffic) stops in naas after newb, and then onto the red cow & so jump on the luas & straight into town.
    The bus is 5er one way, not sure if they do weekly / monthly tickets, but I'm sure if they do it will be some sort of saver option for it...

    As far as social life, I'd say go Naas/newbridge/maynooth area, everywhere else is a significantly smaller town.

    There are a few nice apartments available around, but keep on mind the distance to the bus stop / train station.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭westies4ever


    teacher711 wrote: »

    I had been looking at Monasterevin

    Poor train service - compared to surrounding towns and as for the town it self -dead as a door nail!!! Avoid.

    Having done both (commuting and living in the city) - I advise you to stay in Dublin - even renting a two bed apartment with one other if you dont want to live with loads - perhaps a room with an ensuite so you'd have some privacy.

    If you must move out dont go any further than Maynooth or Naas - Newbirdge at an absolute push, if you want to have any sort of a life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,916 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    teacher711 wrote: »
    I'm going to be right in the city centre and I do have my own car which is good in the sense that I'm not limited to places with a train service!

    I know you seem to be leaning against the commuting plan anyway but I was wondering if you would have a free parking space at your workplace? If not you'd have to assume at least €60 a week for parking, which would be better put toward rent in Dublin, imho.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 teacher711


    Yeah I have free parking at work which is great! One less expense to have to worry about :)
    Thanks again for all the advice! Much appreciated!


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,219 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Try Kilcock or Enfield. Both are miles cheaper than Maynooth or Celbridge. And they're only a couple of miles down the road. In Kilcock, you'd be adding 5 extra minutes to your commute than being in Maynooth. There are also trains. Or at the very least you could drive to maynooth and get the train.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,299 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Grayson wrote: »
    Try Kilcock or Enfield. Both are miles cheaper than Maynooth or Celbridge. And they're only a couple of miles down the road.
    Avoid these two, as no nightlinks goto them. You'll regret not having a nightlink if you work in Dublin, as you won't be able to stay late at the weekends.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,442 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    I'd definitely think about getting an apartment in the burbs
    something like this which has parking and it is right beside the Dart station and shops
    http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?id=1088513


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,916 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Skerries wrote: »
    I'd definitely think about getting an apartment in the burbs
    something like this which has parking and it is right beside the Dart station and shops
    http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?id=1088513

    Is that good value? My brother and his girlfriend have a 1 bed apartment in Ballsbridge for €800pm. Right on the canal, a few minutes walk from Stephen's Green. They have parking too but may pay extra for that, I'm not sure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,932 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    iguana wrote: »
    Is that good value? My brother and his girlfriend have a 1 bed apartment in Ballsbridge for €800pm. Right on the canal, a few minutes walk from Stephen's Green. They have parking too but may pay extra for that, I'm not sure.

    yes but is it new? ive seen some of these 800 pm inner city apartments and they are 60s / 70s trash tbh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,916 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    listermint wrote: »
    yes but is it new? ive seen some of these 800 pm inner city apartments and they are 60s / 70s trash tbh.

    It's not new no, but it's an awful lot nicer than most of the new builds around. I'd be especially wary of Clongriffin because Priory Hall isn't the only building in that area to be a fire hazard. Some of the Balgriffin/Belmayne buildings are also missing the proper safety installations, depending on if they are brick or wood frame. And as renters don't get full structural surveys before they move in, they have no way of knowing if the building has been checked out or not.

    Apart from the safety issues, the sound insulation is also reported as being non-existent in most of those buildings. The buildings are so close together it's like something from a nightmare and there is growing anti-social behaviour problems. A purpose built block from the 70s like those off Mespil Road, which are solidly built, with big communal gardens, good soundproofing and in a very good area are worth a lot more than a tenner a week extra.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,994 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Oddly enough I live in Donneybrook and commute to Leixlip. But at 240 Euros a month in Petrol and a 1.5hour day commute, I'd hate to have to do it the other way around and miss the perks of being near town with a longer commute.

    It just seems like a waste. You could live in town, walk to work, half your commute time at least and not pay petrol and car maintenance costs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Make your commute as short as possible. Life is too short to waste so much time just travelling to work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭ixus


    Daft says:

    1 bed apartment in Dublin 2 is 800 - 1,000 per month.

    1 bed apartment in Maynooth to Monasterevin is 600 - 800 per month.

    Monthly rail commute costs according to Irishrail (not including parking) is almost 200 euro if you go as far out as Kildare town or 140 out to Kilcock.

    Also factor in that you may go out in the city for a night out once a month. A taxi back to Maynooth is 50 (or 40 if you can agree it with taxi driver before getting in the car).

    Finally, by living alone in either circumstance, you are paying up to 400 per month for that privilege. If you're a teacher, as your name suggests, and you're not permanent, I would strongly suggest you consider saving that premium incase you were out of work for an extended period.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭DublinDilbert


    I can't see how it would be cheaper to commute.

    You can get a 1 bed within 3 or 4 miles of the city for €800, which has access to train line, bus routes, motorway's etc etc...

    http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?id=123714

    So you might get a one bed for €600 in kilcock, sure you'd be easily putting in the extra €200 between petrol / tolls etc..


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭irishguy


    teacher711 wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I will be starting work in Dublin City in September. Accommodation in Dublin is so expensive and (I know I might sound stupid here) I don't fancy moving in with people I don't know. I haven't had any luck in finding people to live with up there so was considering renting a 1 bed in the kildare area which works out about the same as what you could pay for a room in a house in Dublin.

    I understand I would obviously have the extra expense of commuting in and out every day but at least I would have the comfort of my own space.

    I'm just not sure if it will actually save me in the long run! Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated!

    Your mad. Put your commuting money towards renting a place you can walk to work from. Moving in with like minded people of the same age can be great and you will meet new people and keep costs down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 doc19827


    Sorry to hijack the thread,

    Im a first time poster and not too sure how this works!!

    Just looking for some advice/info with regards to a move to sallins/naas/clane/cellbridge area

    Im currently living in and working in dub city center with my partner and newborn baby living at home in Limerick.

    We have decided to try and get a home and have been thinking these areas as we rent would appear to be cheaper than Dub and also my partner is not keen on bringing up our child in Dublin city centre(no offence Dubs.

    I myself think sallins/ naas area would be perfect as you have the sallins train right into heuston where i can get the 145 practically to my office door.

    also it is right off the M7 for our journeys to Limerick at weekends etc

    I believe the sallins train service is good??

    There isnt much property to rent in sallins at the moment and naas would have more options.

    Does anyone know about the bus/shuttle service from naas to sallins?? Is it relaible/expensive??

    Also was wondering what clane and cellbridge would be like to live and commute to Dublin...

    All tips/advsie would be well recieved.

    Thanks


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 179 ✭✭Gary The Gamer


    I myself think sallins/ naas area would be perfect as you have the sallins train right into heuston where i can get the 145 practically to my office door.
    An absolutely horrible commute. You are at the mercy of two forms of public transport. I don't know how somebody could willingly design their life around that commute.


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