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2012: Why is Cork city still so anglicised?

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    #92
    Cú Giobach
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    gbee wrote: »
    Quite sad actually, the two men in those pictures died at the hands of the British Government.

    If you don't want to accept history, you're just a little less rich for it.
    :confused:

    The only way your post makes any sense is if .....
    1. you are not very bright,
    2. you are making a bad attempt at trolling.


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    #93
    gbee
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    Cú Giobach wrote: »
    :confused:

    The only way your post makes any sense is if .....

    2. you are making a bad attempt at trolling.

    Sad to say, you seem to a little short in Cork history, I'm not surprised you are confused. Cllr. Kieran McCarthy has excellent articles and books and though not an actual history book, the story of the fire service for the last 150 years in Cork is one of the most revealing accounts of people on the ground in the City.


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    #94
    Cú Giobach
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    gbee wrote: »
    Sad to say, you seem to a little short in Cork history,
    Show your evidence for this statement.


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    #95
    gbee
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    Cú Giobach wrote: »
    Show your evidence for this statement.

    See this is the problem, I already hav. Back in the days of the horse drawn carriage and delivery dray, we used to put blinkers on the horses do they would see only one way and they were easily lead in the direction we wanted them to go.

    In your parlance, you must take off your metaphorical blinkers if you want to see the overall picture. Believe me it's a rich history. Full of betrayal from our friends and kindness from our enemies as well as war crimes on both sides.


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    #96
    Cú Giobach
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    gbee wrote: »
    See this is the problem, I already hav. Back in the days of the horse drawn carriage and delivery dray, we used to put blinkers on the horses do they would see only one way and they were easily lead in the direction we wanted them to go.

    In your parlance, you must take off your metaphorical blinkers if you want to see the overall picture. Believe me it's a rich history. Full of betrayal from our friends and kindness from our enemies as well as war crimes on both sides.
    So you don't have any.
    Well in that case, slán agat.


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    #97
    gbee
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    Cú Giobach wrote: »
    So you don't have any.
    Well in that case, slán agat.

    Welcome to the enlightened world, you will enjoy it. I'll pass on yor comment to some of the local historians, they'll love it.

    OT, BTW, I voted Sinn Fein.


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    #98
    Cú Giobach
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    gbee wrote: »
    Welcome to the enlightened world, you will enjoy it. I'll pass on yor comment to some of the local historians, they'll love it.

    OT, BTW, I voted Sinn Fein.
    Just a final note.
    Do indeed pass them on, though if they are familiar with sarcasm, the results of the 1918 elections and the political leanings of the two gentlemen I pictured, they might look at you a little oddly if you try to tell them "I seem to be a little short in Cork history".
    Bye bye.


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    #99
    Luca Brasi
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    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    And if Obama had visited there would be pictures of him.

    Foreign Head of State visits market, seen to really enjoy themselves. Images of visit broadcast in Head of State's home country which happens to be our nearest neighbour and close trading partner = Great publicity.

    Seems like a no-brainer to me but then I am most likely one of those Anglicised Cork people the OP is whittering on about with my excellent diction, erudite command of the English language and wide knowledge of life beyond the confines of this island. Plus I have been on the BBC.


    :rolleyes:
    I remember you now. Didn't you play Elsie Tanners window cleaner in Coronation St. You know, the fellow who was hit by lorry delivering ale to t'Rovers


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    #100
    getz
    Registered Users Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    dont know what all the protesting is all about,place and town names are just about the area history,nothing to do with person being anglo or irish ect,i live in a area postal address called poulton -le flyde it does not make me norman


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    #101
    ABajaninCork
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    getz wrote: »
    dont know what all the protesting is all about,place and town names are just about the area history,nothing to do with person being anglo or irish ect,i live in a area postal address called poulton -le flyde it does not make me norman

    Poulton-Le-Fylde? That's posh Blackpool isn't it? :D


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    #102
    who the fug
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    ABajaninCork wrote: »
    Poulton-Le-Fylde? That's posh Blackpool isn't it? :D

    Posh up north are you having a giraffe.


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    #103
    getz
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    ABajaninCork wrote: »
    Poulton-Le-Fylde? That's posh Blackpool isn't it? :D
    yep across the river from fleetwood


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    #104
    ABajaninCork
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    who the fug wrote: »
    Posh up north are you having a giraffe.

    OT, but If you're going to use Cockney rhyming slang, the proper phrase is either bubble bath or tin bath. Giraffe is Mockney! :D

    And yes - Oop North, most of it is a khazi, but bits of Lancs, York and Cumbria are truly beautiful.


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    #105
    getz
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    ABajaninCork wrote: »
    OT, but If you're going to use Cockney rhyming slang, the proper phrase is either bubble bath or tin bath. Giraffe is Mockney! :D

    And yes - Oop North, most of it is a khazi, but bits of Lancs, York and Cumbria are truly beautiful.
    ee by gum lad you got it,put wood in hole its drafty


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    #106
    Cú Giobach
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    ABajaninCork wrote: »
    OT, but If you're going to use Cockney rhyming slang, the proper phrase is either bubble bath or tin bath. Giraffe is Mockney! :D

    And yes - Oop North, most of it is a khazi, but bits of Lancs, York and Cumbria are truly beautiful.
    Out of curiosity, what would be the slang for Bath? Right ole Laugh? :)


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    #107
    ABajaninCork
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    Cú Giobach wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, what would be the slang for Bath? Right ole Laugh? :)

    Actually, you're correct. Slang for a bath is laugh!!


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    #108
    Cú Giobach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Cú Giobach


    ABajaninCork wrote: »
    Actually, you're correct. Slang for a bath is laugh!!
    FFS ... lol
    How the hell did those people ever get an empire. :D


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    #109
    who the fug
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    Cú Giobach wrote: »
    FFS ... lol
    How the hell did those people ever get an empire. :D

    mate of mine reckons that the slang was started by paddies working on the docks, specifically the Millwall Docks


    re ryming slang, the great thing about it, is like engerlish no rules.

    It evolves


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    #110
    who the fug
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    Cú Giobach wrote: »
    FFS ... lol
    How the hell did those people ever get an empire. :D

    they had an army made up of paddies, run by paddies who did not follow their instructions


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    #111
    who the fug
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    ABajaninCork wrote: »
    OT, but If you're going to use Cockney rhyming slang, the proper phrase is either bubble bath or tin bath. Giraffe is Mockney! :D

    And yes - Oop North, most of it is a khazi, but bits of Lancs, York and Cumbria are truly beautiful.

    and you sir are having a turkish


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    #112
    ABajaninCork
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    who the fug wrote: »
    and you sir are having a turkish

    Actually, I am MADAM to you! :D And I'm a bona fide Cockney.


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    #113
    who the fug
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    ABajaninCork wrote: »
    Actually, I am MADAM to you! :D And I'm a bona fide Cockney.

    Sorry for your troubles Mrs. ;)


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    #114
    Chloris
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    jamesbere wrote: »
    Well that was a waste of a few mins.

    You must have a fairly stress free life if this is all that is bothering you.

    First world problem :D
    Bobby Sands had First World Problems too, does that make his hunger strike groundless?


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    #115
    gbee
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    Chloris wrote: »
    Bobby Sands had First World Problems too, does that make his hunger strike groundless?[/QUOTEI

    Technically, Bobby committed suicide by refusing medical assistance. It was HIS own choice.


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    #116
    Chloris
    Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Chloris


    I was just kidding, my argument makes no logical sense whatever way you look at it. You're absolutely right that he chose to kill himself.

    On an side track, I reckon his campaign wasn't supposed to be about his death, but to highlight the right he was being denied; they wouldn't give him the right to be legally recognised as a Political Prisoner - they classed him and those who he fought with as Terrorists and belittled the movement behind them, ignoring their demands and refusing to enter into a peace process with them thus. His campaign and subsequent death drew attention to this massively important injustice and people all over the world began to look at colonisation in a different way as a result.

    I'm not saying that the methods of the IRA are something I agree with, I'm just saying that it challenged people to look at the supposedly terrorist side and the law enforcement side on an equal footing.


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    #117
    getz
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    Chloris wrote: »
    I was just kidding, my argument makes no logical sense whatever way you look at it. You're absolutely right that he chose to kill himself.

    On an side track, I reckon his campaign wasn't supposed to be about his death, but to highlight the right he was being denied; they wouldn't give him the right to be legally recognised as a Political Prisoner - they classed him and those who he fought with as Terrorists and belittled the movement behind them, ignoring their demands and refusing to enter into a peace process with them thus. His campaign and subsequent death drew attention to this massively important injustice and people all over the world began to look at colonisation in a different way as a result.

    I'm not saying that the methods of the IRA are something I agree with, I'm just saying that it challenged people to look at the supposedly terrorist side and the law enforcement side on an equal footing.
    IRA committed terrorist activity in northern ireland,the republic,and england,also killed more fellow irishmen during the troubles than the english did, and their offshoots are still bombing shooting killing ironically only irish citizens mostly in republican and national areas in the north ,not british citizens, should they be classed as political prisoners also,


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    #118
    Chloris
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    getz wrote: »
    IRA committed terrorist activity in northern ireland,the republic,and england,also killed more fellow irishmen during the troubles than the english did, and their offshoots are still bombing shooting killing ironically only irish citizens mostly in republican and national areas in the north ,not british citizens, should they be classed as political prisoners also,
    I absolutely don't agree with what the I.R.A. do, I'm just saying that to not grand the special status of Political Prisoner to people imprisoned for political actions and uprisings is disrespectful. You're denying a reality if you deny the fact that they're political prisoners!


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    #119
    getz
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    Chloris wrote: »
    I absolutely don't agree with what the I.R.A. do, I'm just saying that to not grand the special status of Political Prisoner to people imprisoned for political actions and uprisings is disrespectful. You're denying a reality if you deny the fact that they're political prisoners!
    yes in many cases i do and so does the rest of the world ,the definition of a political prisoner according to the UN is a person who has been imprisoned for holding or advocating dissenting political views, and amnesty international policy that it only applies to prisoners who have not committed or advocated violence,now tell me that the IRA was a church loving group


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    #120
    KCAccidental
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    you should go on to another cork forum with this wind up. you'd get the response your fragile ego requires!


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    #121
    Grand Moff Tarkin
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    KCAccidental wrote: »
    you should go on to another cork forum with this wind up. you'd get the response your fragile ego requires!
    Could not see it working as most of the posters would be to smart to fall for it.


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