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[Event] London 2012 Men's triathlon 07/08/2012 11:30

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    What do people think about the use of domestiques in tri these days ? I can understand why it's done but don't think it's in the 'spirit' of the event really, you can see Hayes going to run himself into the ground now and it happened in the ladies too.


    Possible 15sec penalty for one of the brothers mounting his bike too early.

    I hate the idea but if they banned it it would happen anyway just a little less obviously.

    I remember being shocked by an interview Gavin Noble did where he was saying that because another Irish athlete was doing well (Bryan Keane I think) that he would do his part by slowing down the chase group by braking awkwardly going into tight corners etc. I didn't like it but that's the sport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    Oryx wrote: »
    Whats his run like?

    Not great (relatively) they seem to be saying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    Noble in 3rd!

    Jonny going to get a 15 second penalty. Is that a stand by the bike at T2?

    edit: likely to take it on lap 2 in the penalty box on the route.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    Jonny Brownlee 15second penalty confirmed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    edit: likely to take it on lap 2 in the penalty box on the route.

    Yip, BBC just discussed it, he has a choice of when to take it and that's the most likely place they seem to think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Brick Session


    Wonder will he recover after the penalty, should be interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭couerdelion


    A 15 second stop start on the run though isn't as devasting as one if he had to take it on the bike. Still think he'll get second.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    Gemmell (NZ) and Vasiliev (Russia) tried a mini break. Swallowed up.

    5 minutes later. Tried again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    Pack is strung out now. Single file. Vasiliev (I think) working hard with Gemell. Noble eating loads! Gel and bar (according to commentator)?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    Alastair making a break!

    Edit: caught!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    Thought Johnny would be the one to go if there was going to be a break like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    Great transition from Noble.

    11th. 3 seconds behind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    I was thinking it wasn't the greatest, relative to the other guys, considering his position entering transition ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    1 Alastair Brownlee
    2 Jonny Brownlee
    3 Javier Gomez

    Jonny still to take his 15 second penalty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    They're running at some speed at this stage of the race. Obviously trying to get his 15 seconds on the road.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    Some speed alright. Jonny not taking penalty on first lap. 17 second gap already!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭couerdelion


    Some pace! Hope that they haven't over cooked it.

    Not sure about Gomez, he tried to stay with them last time out and paid for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭sconhome


    What was the penalty for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    Jonny not taking the 15 second penalty yet (end of lap 2).

    Any word on Noble?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    What was the penalty for?

    Bike mount.

    edit: Can he take the penalty at the end? Just have it added to his time?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    What was the penalty for?

    Mounting before the line. Didn't see it myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    Jonny being dropped. He looked tired when Alastair looked fresh a couple of minutes ago. Hope he can still get bronze.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Bike mount.

    edit: Can he take the penalty at the end? Just have it added to his time?
    They said if he does not take it he dq's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    Bike mount.

    edit: Can he take the penalty at the end? Just have it added to his time?

    No. Has to stand in the penalty box just before transition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,468 ✭✭✭sconhome


    Unfair advantage having option to serve 15 sec penalty at end. If its stop / go its more of a 40 / 50 sec with building up to speed again.

    Anyway geeat to see Gavin racing so well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    Jonny taking it now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    He almost jumped out of the box early.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    Still got a gap on the 2 French lads. 5 seconds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    He almost jumped out of the box early.

    Yeah, very bloody close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭MrCreosote


    Those 15 seconds must seem like hours!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    Fantastic! First time a favourite has won!

    1 Alistair Brownlee
    2 Javier Gomez
    3 Jonny Brownlee


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Noble still looking at a top 20 finish, currently 19th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭couerdelion


    Great racing. Gomez well deserved silver regardless of Jonny's penalty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Noble was 23rd, good result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    Well done Gavin. 23rd. 3:22 behind Alistair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    23rd for Noble. Good performance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭couerdelion


    Be interesting to see the run split. It looked fast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭MrCreosote


    29:07 for Alistair Brownlee on the run apparently.

    What is it with tris and the runs being shorter than advertised?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Be interesting to see the run split. It looked fast.

    They're here, click the + sign for each participant and you'll get all the splits, 29:07 for Alistairs run.
    http://www.london2012.com/triathlon/event/men/index.html?v=20120807-125423282


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭steve9859


    Great racing. Gomez well deserved silver regardless of Jonny's penalty.

    penalty made no difference in the end. Jonny was being dropped by Alistair and Gomez on lap 3 anyway and would probably have come 3rd, penalty or not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    MrCreosote wrote: »
    29:07 for Alistair Brownlee on the run apparently.

    What is it with tris and the runs being shorter than advertised?!

    There's a percentage tolerance. Pity they don't have it as "not less than" 10k. Does anybody have the exact distance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    Jaysus! Some crazy loud red skinny trousers on Bryan Keane in RTE studio!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭El Director


    Got the order of 1, 2 or 3 right this time €140 :D:D also had Hauus e/w at 80/1, not sure yet if top 4 are placed.

    Fair play to Noble, best I have ever seen him race. Delighted for Alastair and Gomez. Pen made no difference and Johnny really deserved his medal too. And what about Frodeno, gusty performance, not giving up the title without a fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭couerdelion


    steve9859 wrote: »
    penalty made no difference in the end. Jonny was being dropped by Alistair and Gomez on lap 3 anyway and would probably have come 3rd, penalty or not

    Yeah, that's what I meant, he deserved silver and would have got it regardless of the penalty which in the end was insignificant.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Delighted for Noble. It was great to see the irish colours so prominent in the bike section of the race.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Watched it at lunchtime, AB is a beast plain and simple just love the way he attacks and races. The swim fairly opened up things, even if Murray was in the lead pack off the bike he would have had difficulty overhauling Gomez/JB for a medal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 730 ✭✭✭antomagoo


    Apologies if its been asked before / dumb question, but why do they use road bikes instead of tri bikes?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Can't use them in draft legal races.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,102 ✭✭✭Genghis


    MrCreosote wrote: »
    29:07 for Alistair Brownlee on the run apparently.

    What is it with tris and the runs being shorter than advertised?!

    I don't think there is any reason to think this particular course was short. See below course details and note the specific details given for the cycle course. If they weren't bothered about the length of the course they would have 'advertised' this as 40km, and not described it as "43km – seven (7) laps of a 6.137km course".

    http://www.london2012.com/mm/Document/Documents/Venue/01/25/45/49/Triathlon_Neutral.pdf

    I believe the 10km course was 10km.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    If it was 10km he probably would have beaten Mo Farah in the 10000m if he's running that off the bike...


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