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Jimmy Saville exposed

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Lots of those nonces. John Peel even married a 15yo girl, which he claimed was in error.

    Really? And even if he did, not that I condone it, but I think it's a different scenario to the control freakery abuse that JS was capable of...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭D-FENS




    Go to 14:15: LT: You used to be a wrestler? Is that right?

    JS: Still am. Feared in every girl's school in Britain.

    LT: Meaning?

    JS: That was a pleasantry. In Yorkshire they call it a j.o.k.e.

    Hiding in plain sight, and a man with a deeply sick sense of humour. He expressed a fear that tabloids would portray him as a nonce, accurately as it turns out.

    Lots of those nonces. John Peel even married a 15yo girl, which he claimed was in error.

    Jim the Pill looks pretty dodgy too, I’m guessing the pill was Rohypnol.

    This was a BBC produced show yeah? Interesting that they would allow some of Theroux questions and Saville’s “eccentric” answers if there has been a long standing cover up in place. Saville must have had some arrogance to allow it to air considering the eye brow raising it caused, same with going on Have I got News for you. There’s hiding in plain sight and then there’s having an ego that makes you feel untouchable, in his case I think it was the latter but all in all I think he was a clever b*stard (Well he was a member of Mensa)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭lynchieboy


    If it was a certain Fr Jimmy Saville parish priest and the BBC was the Catholic church it seems to be a carbon copy of a clerical child abuse case! It seems amazing that a lot of high profile celebrities and tv presenters are queing up to say they knew about the rumours that he might have been rapeing little girls! just like the bishops and cardinals they were prepared to turn a blind eye more worried about their own careers than rape victims despicable individuals:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭ppink


    fryup wrote: »
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    thats the great tragedy of this sorry tale that no one confronted him when he was alive....too late now

    too much jumpin on the bandwagon going on at the moment for my liking....oh i saw this i saw that...well why didn't you say something then!!

    i just cant get over this! what the hell were people doing "observing" all these incidences and saying nothing! where do they think their responsibility was?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    ppink wrote: »
    i just cant get over this! what the hell were people doing "observing" all these incidences and saying nothing! where do they think their responsibility was?
    in many cases complaints were made at the time of the abuse,two more have come to light to-day,one was by a nurse ,who worked at the time in a hospital in leeds,she caught saville abusing a young disabled girl,he even had is own set of keys to give him access to a secure hospital for mentally disabled children in broadmoor


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    The family have removed his £5,000 headstone in Scarborough, the stone was only put in place 3 weeks ago. He now lies in an unmarked grave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Disgusting allegations about Jimmy Saville, no doubt about it at all.
    The man was a weirdo, (watch 'when Louis met Jimmy on YouTube) borderline insane even.

    However.

    It's a bit pointless investigating and various allegations about him now when he's dead.

    Firstly, he's not around to defend himself/deny allegations.

    Secondly though,
    What they going to do to him now? Dig him up and bury him in a prison yard somewhere?


    IMO, to much has emerged about him now for some people in positions of power not to have protected him, and if some of these folk are still living, they should be pursued now for justice also!

    you just answered your own question.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭666irishguy


    I'm all for a Cadavar Synod.


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭splendid101


    I was actually hoping this thread would have naked pictures of Jimmy Saville.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    There was a news piece on today about the war memorial in Belgium which has the names of hundreds of soldiers who remains were never found ( blown to bits or vaporized in battle) . They may not have their own headstones but they are are worth remembering and for all the right reasons ,unlike Saville who will be remembered for all the wrong ones .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭ppink


    getz wrote: »
    in many cases complaints were made at the time of the abuse,two more have come to light to-day,one was by a nurse ,who worked at the time in a hospital in leeds,she caught saville abusing a young disabled girl,he even had is own set of keys to give him access to a secure hospital for mentally disabled children in broadmoor


    do you know what happened to those that complained at the time? were they just ignored?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭Gamayun


    The Have I got News for you episode is now up on Youtube. The one that the transcription was allegedly from (though this has been declared a hoax by Paul Merton). Hoax or not there was obviously something behind it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    How a hideous creature like Saville ever became popular and respectable is baffling but he came from that breed of celebs who closed ranks and scoffed at rumors under the guise of '' press just digging up dirt '' again. That other DJ sex predator Johnathon King probably knows lots more and there's a sure to be more celebs who are worried by what's come out .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 408 ✭✭PC CDROM


    I heard on the radio the youngest accuser was 13.

    Shure thats legal in a lot of countries. It's not like he was molesting babies like a proper peado.


    It's on.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    PC CDROM wrote: »
    I heard on the radio the youngest accuser was 13.

    Shure thats legal in a lot of countries. It's not like he was molesting babies like a proper peado.


    It's on.....

    Are you f*cking serious with that??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    gbee wrote: »
    Children. One would not have expected them to know the difference.

    We're talking about what, 14 & 15 year old girls here, not 6 year olds. A large percentage of teenagers of that age are sexually active nowadays. Do they know the differennce between groping. kissing and sex?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 373 ✭✭Internet Hero


    PC CDROM wrote: »
    I heard on the radio the youngest accuser was 13.

    Shure thats legal in a lot of countries. It's not like he was molesting babies like a proper peado.


    It's on.....

    yeh fair enough but he was a knight. should be expectin better from him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭Manc-Red


    We're talking about what, 14 & 15 year old girls here, not 6 year olds. A large percentage of teenagers of that age are sexually active nowadays. Do they know the differennce between groping. kissing and sex?

    Of course there is a difference..... it's still illegal to have sex with 14/15 year old though, & he knew that - I'm sure it was part of the thrill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    PC CDROM wrote: »
    I heard on the radio the youngest accuser was 13.

    Shure thats legal in a lot of countries. It's not like he was molesting babies like a proper peado.


    It's on.....

    I don't think they allow sex with brain damaged kids though.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 408 ✭✭PC CDROM


    K-9 wrote: »
    I don't think they allow sex with brain damaged kids though.

    So they are "Different" are they?

    Don't they have right too? To be treated normal?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    PC CDROM wrote: »
    So they are "Different" are they?

    Don't they have right too? To be treated normal?

    :D Good one.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 806 ✭✭✭getzls


    PC CDROM wrote: »
    So they are "Different" are they?

    Don't they have right too? To be treated normal?
    You seem to be a strange person.:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    PC CDROM wrote: »
    So they are "Different" are they?

    Don't they have right too? To be treated normal?

    troll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Manc-Red wrote: »
    Of course there is a difference..... it's still illegal to have sex with 14/15 year old though, & he knew that - I'm sure it was part of the thrill.

    ? I'm sure Savile knew the difference. Are we not talking about the girls POV though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    If anything comes out of this sorry state of affairs I hope it leads people to question why vulnerable people in the public health system are dependent on private charity.

    Savile's fundraising efforts led to a clear conflict of interest where his ego was tolerated in the wards by doctors, nurses, and other health professionals at the expense of patient care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    Do they know the differennce between groping. kissing and sex?

    I personally would not know, but it has been demonstrated over the decades that such confusion has existed in children, but I take your point about the age group.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    the biggest mystery about jimmy savile is....

    for a guy who smoked cigars endlessly...how the hell did he manage to run so many marathons:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Probably the same way Rosanna Davison did.


    Not sure if it was linked to before, but here's a pretty good piece from the Guardian a while back about Jonathon King, when he was arrested. It's quite disturbing how "normal" so many in the music industry thought it was.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2001/dec/01/weekend.jonronson


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    The Louis Theroux documentary on him is a must watch. Louis has a very good intuition when it comes to people and he states several times that him and Jimmy aren't getting along and that Jimmy is strange. At about the 45 minute mark he asks him about a statement he made when he said he hates children. This then leads them onto the paedophile accusation. I believe Louis knew there wasn't something quiet right with the guy and done a brilliant job in exposing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    ppink wrote: »
    do you know what happened to those that complained at the time? were they just ignored?
    jimmy saville became untouchable in the eyes of the establishment,he was making loades of money for the charities he worked for,as well as being a jewish/catholic who met the pope was a friend of the PM and the royal family,he was also if it is to be believed a mason,with that kind of C V ,who is going to point the finger and be believed, the police had complaints on a number of occasions but each time,they went to investigate,they were told to drop the case from above,in the cases of the jersey childrens home abuse scandal that was without doubt a freemason cover up.jimmy kept on saying he was never there ,but there is a photo to prove he was.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭fionnsda


    Jeremy Beadle now stands accused, the police reveal he may of had a small hand in it! :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    in many cases complaints were made at the time of the abuse,two more have come to light to-day,one was by a nurse ,who worked at the time in a hospital in leeds,she caught saville abusing a young disabled girl,he even had is own set of keys to give him access to a secure hospital for mentally disabled children in broadmoor

    When I thought I couldn't be shocked anymore that's ****ing shocking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭GRMA


    Good friends with Thatcher too, used to stay with her for new years afaik


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 936 ✭✭✭Prick!


    I love Louis Theroux. Love his programmes. Wish there were more of them.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,433 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    smurgen wrote: »
    The Louis Theroux documentary on him is a must watch. Louis has a very good intuition when it comes to people and he states several times that him and Jimmy aren't getting along and that Jimmy is strange. At about the 45 minute mark he asks him about a statement he made when he said he hates children. This then leads them onto the paedophile accusation. I believe Louis knew there wasn't something quiet right with the guy and done a brilliant job in exposing it.

    I remember watching that years ago. He came across as very strange indeed. Theroux's documentaries are brilliant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Jonti


    Rumours and stories do not make anyone guilty until proven.
    How many feckers come out the wood telling stories in the event that theres compensation payments to be had??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    Jonti wrote: »
    Rumours and stories do not make anyone guilty until proven.
    How many feckers come out the wood telling stories in the event that theres compensation payments to be had??

    That's amazing, considering all the people backing up the people saying they were abused, these secondary witnesses don't get any compensation...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    getz wrote: »
    jimmy saville became untouchable in the eyes of the establishment,he was making loades of money for the charities he worked for,as well as being a jewish/catholic who met the pope was a friend of the PM and the royal family,he was also if it is to be believed a mason,with that kind of C V ,who is going to point the finger and be believed, the police had complaints on a number of occasions but each time,they went to investigate,they were told to drop the case from above,in the cases of the jersey childrens home abuse scandal that was without doubt a freemason cover up.jimmy kept on saying he was never there ,but there is a photo to prove he was.

    Masons help Masons ....... that's the name of the game. But how this sinister organisation got so prevelant in the upper echelons of British law needs looking into.
    But hey, they pull the strings so don't hold your breath!
    By it's very nature, a secret society is dangerous ...... be it Opus Dei or Freemasonry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭Spread


    fryup wrote: »
    the biggest mystery about jimmy savile is....

    for a guy who smoked cigars endlessly...how the hell did he manage to run so many marathons:confused:

    Like Bill ........... he didn't inhale :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    Jimmy So Vile perfectly illustrates what power without responsibility can lead to.:( Whereas there were probably detailed security checks on the professional personnel in those hospitals where he "volunteered", he seems to have been free to prowl the wards at will. A bit like Brendan Smythe, who was a hospital chaplain in Tralee, with access to all wards including the children's, at a time when he was a fugitive from justice in Northern Ireland.:eek:

    So Vile's power came from the cult of personality that grew up around him, the wealth it brought and the blindness it induced in those who wanted to be seen with him and bask in what they thought was his reflected glory. They had their own axe to grind.:)

    Politicians, other media personalities and lot of others fell hook-line-and sinker for the illusion that was woven around him and anyone who dared criticse him in public would have been angrily shouted down.

    A bit like the aura of goodness that surrounded priests in Ireland until the dam burst twenty or so years ago.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    just watching channel 4 news
    they're saying he didn't just have a special set of keys and an office at broadmoor
    he was literally running the place


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I'd love to know who was protecting him from above and why. Could it be that JS knew too much about people in high office up to the same type of thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,046 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Comedian Jerry Sadowitz had Saville's number back in 1988:


    Thing is, Sadowitz was horrible about just about everyone, so no-one noticed ... :cool:

    He was still at it last year, soon after Saville died:

    Ye Hypocrites, are these your pranks
    To murder men and gie God thanks?
    Desist for shame, proceed no further
    God won't accept your thanks for murder.

    ―Robert Burns



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D




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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Hootanany wrote: »

    If true that would horrify me. I looked up to and respected John Peel, he influenced a lot of the music I listened to in my youth. Peel's approval was the main aim for many an up and coming band.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    If true that would horrify me. I looked up to and respected John Peel, he influenced a lot of the music I listened to in my youth. Peel's approval was the main aim for many an up and coming band.

    Never look up to or respect anybody. It has served me well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭barone


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq6lJsBz9UY

    been following the saville revelations and came across this vid, your mans a bit ott maybe but what happend is real..

    js was linked to this place..


    Edit.. its sick ..the statue in the garden..taunting him ..omfg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,117 ✭✭✭AnnyHallsal


    bnt wrote: »
    Comedian Jerry Sadowitz had Saville's number back in 1988:


    Thing is, Sadowitz was horrible about just about everyone, so no-one noticed ... :cool:

    He was still at it last year, soon after Saville died:

    These are brilliant. I love Sadowitz even more now. And you're dead right, cos he was horrible to everyone people probably didn't take it seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany




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