Jimmy Saville exposed

Biggins

Zebra3 wrote: »

Those that turned a blind eye should be done for aiding and abetting.

You mean like this country has done with Cardinal Brady?



Our traitorous government who has given 1.1 billion away today (total now 17 billion) and another 18 Billion next year, has decided to so far see that our own Irish people escape prosecution.

(I totally agree with you by the way)

Zebra3

Biggins wrote: »

You mean like this country has done with Cardinal Brady?



Our traitorous government who has given 1.1 billion away today (total now 17 billion) and another 18 Billion next year, has decided to so far see that our own Irish people escape prosecution.

(I totally agree with you by the way)

Brady and a whole host of other vermin should be locked up for helping child rapists and the Catholic church should be proscribed.

FF/Labour's grand theft of the Iris people is a disgrace. Some stunt by Kenny pointing the finger of blame at Adams to deflect from his own criminality. :rolleyes:

getz

Show Time wrote: »

He always had the look of a kiddie fiddler about him.

i knew jimmy in his early years when drinking with him in salford,he would hang around with most of us when we docked,i always felt it was strange that he dident pick up any of the woman who hung around with us,at the time i would think it was because as he was a manager of a dance hall in manchester he did not need to slum it with the kind of girls we would end up with,as a person to meet he came over as OK,but he must have had a dark side even then

Giselle

Wombatman wrote: »

Savile would have been mobbed by girls of this age at the time.

It's not unusual for men to be attracted to girls in this age bracket depending on their level of maturity.

Without doubt some girls were abused by Savile but the guilt is not his alone.

Jesus.

the_syco

Biggins wrote: »

Todays Times (England): http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/crime/article3554717.ece

Sir Jimmy Savile said Gary Glitter ‘did no wrong'

Pity that clip didn't come to light earlier! I'd almost wonder were they waiting for his death?

mitosis

I wouldn't be surprised if it were true, but I have a problem with accusers waiting until the accused is dead and cannot defend himself, and the fact they wish to remain anonymous.

I would have issues with this coming to light after the man is dead, even if he was one, he's dead, who you gonna call? Ghostbusters?

On what he said about Gary Gicker, mental.

Ash.J.Williams

lecker Hendl wrote: »

Here's a link to the fake transcript from Have I Got News For You. However, some of it did happen
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/rogerb/jokes/HIGNFY.txt



Go to about 9 min 35 seconds and he does say he's feared in every girls school
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xrk76a_hignfy-s17e07-jimmy-savile-diane-abbott_fun

that is all

that is the most surreal thing I have ever read! Love they way deayton was on board at the start and even he had to "opt out"!!

Biggins

the_syco wrote: »

Pity that clip didn't come to light earlier! I'd almost wonder were they waiting for his death?

Maybe - just maybe!

Just imagine any one MAJOR loved person in Ireland who might also really have a dark side which few have suffered because of - then imagine a small lone voice speaking out - would they really get far and be listened to?

Add to that in Jimmy's case, the British Queen had personally given him awards - so having the dubious job of exposing a person who the queen says is godly like and should be a nations hero, is a formidable thing to take on!
...Add to that, a victim might be taking on the BBC who no doubt at that stage would have defended their royal awarded star tooth and nail for a number of reasons - one being if only to save face and see their own asses were covered for not exposing him earlier!

T-K-O

Yamanoto wrote: »

That's some world view, must be tough living there.

I have a great life and I surround myself with great people but that is a harsh reality.

Show Time

getz wrote: »

i knew jimmy in his early years when drinking with him in salford,he would hang around with most of us when we docked,i always felt it was strange that he dident pick up any of the woman who hung around with us,at the time i would think it was because as he was a manager of a dance hall in manchester he did not need to slum it with the kind of girls we would end up with,as a person to meet he came over as OK,but he must have had a dark side even then

He counted the Yorkshires Ripper Peter Sutcliffe as a friend along with Paul Gadd (Gary Glitter) And Jonathan King. That would be enough to get the alarm bells ringing with most normal folks.

Fuinseog

why do they wait until he is dead before attacking him?

surely his friends in high places would have known?

having said that plenty of people in this country defended cathal o searcaigh and David norris for their interest in young boys.

daysleeper

Varied wrote: »

Pete Townsend was exposed for kiddie porn there recently too.

Some sick ****s out there.

Sorry for going off-topic but Pete Townshend is in no way a 'sick ****'. It may have been completely daft and naive of him to think that he could start his own investigation into the roots of online child pornography but that doesn't make him sick OR a paedophile. Please don't post about topics you clearly have no knowledge on.

from wiki...-

Townshend was cautioned by the British police in 2003 as part of Operation Ore. Following a news leak that Townshend was among the subjects of the investigation,[40] he publicly stated that on one occasion, he had used a credit card to access a website advertising child pornography.[41] Townshend, who had posted essays on his personal website in 2002 as part of his campaign against the widespread availability of child pornography on the internet,[42][43][44][45][46] claimed that he had entered the site for research purposes and had not downloaded any images.[41][47] A four-month police investigation, including forensic examination of all of his computers, established that Townshend was not in possession of any illegal downloaded images.[48] The police elected to caution him, stating, "It is not a defence to access these images for research or out of curiosity."[49] In a statement issued by his lawyer, Townshend said, "I accept that I was wrong to access this site, and that by doing so, I broke the law, and I have accepted the caution that the police have given me."[49][50]

T-K-O

It wouldn't surprise me if Townsend was exploring onion sites which is fairly innocent. However if that is true and he ended up on some of these vile websites his excuse is pretty lame

kumate_champ07

Sappa wrote: »

The man raised tens of millions of pounds for charity,helped thousands of people and lead an extraordinary life.
He hasn't a chance to defend himself from the grave and I think people should thread carefully out of respect for this fact as we have no evidence to the contrary just hearsay from a journalist.

a bit like Lance Armstrong...

M cebee

Fuinseog wrote: »

why do they wait until he is dead before attacking him?

surely his friends in high places would have known?

having said that plenty of people in this country defended cathal o searcaigh and David norris for their interest in young boys.

this is a media story-the media waited,
presumably for libel reasons

tony1kenobi

daysleeper wrote: »

Varied wrote: »

Pete Townsend was exposed for kiddie porn there recently too.

Some sick ****s out there.

Sorry for going off-topic but Pete Townshend is in no way a 'sick ****'. It may have been completely daft and naive of him to think that he could start his own investigation into the roots of online child pornography but that doesn't make him sick OR a paedophile. Please don't post about topics you clearly have no knowledge on.

from wiki...-

Townshend was cautioned by the British police in 2003 as part of Operation Ore. Following a news leak that Townshend was among the subjects of the investigation,[40] he publicly stated that on one occasion, he had used a credit card to access a website advertising child pornography.[41] Townshend, who had posted essays on his personal website in 2002 as part of his campaign against the widespread availability of child pornography on the internet,[42][43][44][45][46] claimed that he had entered the site for research purposes and had not downloaded any images.[41][47] A four-month police investigation, including forensic examination of all of his computers, established that Townshend was not in possession of any illegal downloaded images.[48] The police elected to caution him, stating, "It is not a defence to access these images for research or out of curiosity."[49] In a statement issued by his lawyer, Townshend said, "I accept that I was wrong to access this site, and that by doing so, I broke the law, and I have accepted the caution that the police have given me."[49][50]

Can you send me a link to where I can buy that book?I've been keeping an eye out for it for ten years but can't find it anywhere.

It's almost like it doesn't exist.

Thinkingaboutit

I never liked him on 'Jim'll Fix it,' and he was bit weird on TOTP, but never suspected he was a nonce. There are at least 10 victims who are talking. Given how he rolled, a regular high speed and shameless sex pest, 500+ is more the likely figure. I hope there are not a cult of defenders like there was for Lance Armstrong. That said, he was just one in a sport where most of the TDF winners were later shown to be cheats, and he did help raise money. Saville the nonce did raise money, but rape and molestation can't be set against that.

punchdrunk

There's been Dirt flying around about John Charles McQuaid's tendencies here for years and still nothing has come of it,
I suspect in time it will though

Madam_X

666irishguy wrote: »

I remember seeing that Louis Theroux documentary and thinking something is not quite right, he came across as more than eccentric, more like totally nuts and weird to honest.

Yeh I thought so too - well weird. And the notion of child abuse never entered my head at the time.

T-K-O wrote: »

Why the victims kept quite until now....who knows but why did the likes of Ester Ranson only speak out now??
The bbc the original 'old boys' club - if true they should be ashamed.

Meh, how much would they have known? Once they didn't abuse any children I'd hate for there to be scapegoating.

KungPao wrote: »

Was hard not to read that in the voice of Chris Morris from Brass Eye.

Unreal isn't it - exactly what Brass Eye was referring to.

getz wrote: »

remember mr saville was also linked to the channel islands mason child abuse scandal,it goes to the very top of goverment

For definite? Or is that just a notion?

TheCatsMeow

Show Time wrote: »

He counted the Yorkshires Ripper Peter Sutcliffe as a friend along with Paul Gadd (Gary Glitter) And Jonathan King. That would be enough to get the alarm bells ringing with most normal folks.

Jonathan King was friends and worked with convicted paedophile DJ Chris Denning. Have a look at Chris Dennings wiki page... it also mentions Tam Paton, the manager of the Bay City Rollers - apparently he was convicted of gross indecency of teenage boys.

Edit - just to add I'm not sure if Saville had anything to do with the other men...

up for anything

Wombatman wrote: »

The girls interviewed in the ITV programme are between the ages of 14 and 16.

Savile would have been mobbed by girls of this age at the time.

It's not unusual for men to be attracted to girls in this age bracket depending on their level of maturity.

Without doubt some girls were abused by Savile but the guilt is not his alone.

Maybe I'm clueless but I don't see how you can say that the girls were abused by him but the guilt is not his alone. By the very meaning of the word abuse they were guiltless.

If every man took advantage of a young teenage girl who acted inappropriately towards him then there wouldn't be many who weren't taken advantage of. Lots of young girls tend to test out and practice their flirting and attraction skills on older men that they subconsciously perceive to be safe. I know I did and thank feck the men never took me up on it. They fended me off nicely, never putting themselves in a difficult position but never humiliating me either. I watched my daughter try it when she was younger too. Unfortunately, many girls seem to try it with men whose self-esteem is boosted by this and end up in bother with them.

fryup

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up for anything

fryup wrote: »

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Such an original comment.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NesjvRihbEg

I've educated myself using this documentary.

AlarmBelle

Show Time wrote: »

He counted the Yorkshires Ripper Peter Sutcliffe as a friend along with Paul Gadd (Gary Glitter) And Jonathan King. That would be enough to get the alarm bells ringing with most normal folks.

I think one ripper victim was found quite near his home. Not that I suggest he was involved just thought of it when i saw the photo of him and Sutcliffe

AlarmBelle

TheCatsMeow wrote: »

Jonathan King was friends and worked with convicted paedophile DJ Chris Denning. Have a look at Chris Dennings wiki page... it also mentions Tam Paton, the manager of the Bay City Rollers - apparently he was convicted of gross indecency of teenage boys.

Edit - just to add I'm not sure if Saville had anything to do with the other men...

One of Bay City Rollers was a perv too

Wee Willy Harris

Whatever comes of this, he won't be truly exposed til he's dug up n left for all to see

Father Damo

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

that is the most surreal thing I have ever read! Love they way deayton was on board at the start and even he had to "opt out"!!

Did the transcript come out before or after the show aired? Seeing as one line of it is accurate, if it was put out before the show was aired it is almost certain that the likes of Merton wrote the whole thing :pac:

Spread

Hows about that then!

Wee Willy Harris

Enough women coming out about him now. Sky news was all defensive of sir jim, yesterday but the tide has seemingly turned I wonder if that isle of man house of horrors was true

M cebee

Wee Willy Harris wrote: »

Enough women coming out about him now. Sky news was all defensive of sir jim, yesterday but the tide has seemingly turned I wonder if that isle of man house of horrors was true

theres a pic of jimmy saville surrounded by kids at the home

Wombatman

up for anything wrote: »

Maybe I'm clueless but I don't see how you can say that the girls were abused by him but the guilt is not his alone. By the very meaning of the word abuse they were guiltless.

Of course the abused girls are guilt free. If you read and consider my post you will see that I'm arguing that a burden of guilt should be shared by parents, schools, co-workers, teachers and the community in general, who allowed the girls to find themselves in these situations, often repeatedly, and didn't listen to or act on any complaints from the girls at the time.

Maybe this was because of the level of acceptance of Saville's type of behaviour in society at the time.

Varied

daysleeper wrote: »

Sorry for going off-topic but Pete Townshend is in no way a 'sick ****'. It may have been completely daft and naive of him to think that he could start his own investigation into the roots of online child pornography but that doesn't make him sick OR a paedophile. Please don't post about topics you clearly have no knowledge on.

from wiki...-

Well if he said its for research purposes and wikipedia said so then I should shut my mouth then :eek:

:rolleyes:

getz

Wombatman wrote: »

Of course the abused girls are guilt free. If you read and consider my post you will see that I'm arguing that a burden of guilt should be shared by parents, schools, co-workers, teachers and the community in general, who allowed the girls to find themselves in these situations, often repeatedly, and didn't listen to or act on any complaints from the girls at the time.

Maybe this was because of the level of acceptance of Saville's type of behaviour in society at the time.

the parents have nothing to do with it,jimmy was in the position [as a childrens campaigner]of trust,he should have been caught years ago ,over the masonic child abuse scandal in the channal isles,but as everyone connected to the case,judges/police/prosecutors were freemasons as was jimmy,the case was dropped as not having enough evidence, you dont need to believe me just google its all there

SEPT 23 1989

I hear on the grapevine that Zippy and Bungle have questions to answer

the_syco

Fuinseog wrote: »

why do they wait until he is dead before attacking him?

surely his friends in high places would have known?

having said that plenty of people in this country defended cathal o searcaigh and David norris for their interest in young boys.

Surely his friends in high places have protected him so his sh|t doesn't smear them?

Duckworth_Luas

Spread wrote: »

Hows about that then!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcFE7HEgX3g

copeyhagen

what do you call a paedophile on a horse?

Jimmy Saddle

RGDATA!

Louis Theroux on Twitter:
"Very strange about Savile. Still struggling to get my head round it."
i think Louis may be being a little disingenuous?

T-K-O

Madam_X wrote: »

Yeh I thought so too - well weird. And the notion of child abuse never entered my head at the time.

Meh, how much would they have known? Once they didn't abuse any children I'd hate for there to be scapegoating.

Unreal isn't it - exactly what Brass Eye was referring to.

For definite? Or is that just a notion?

if they didnt know anything why feel guilty.

AlarmBelle

I read that one paper was set to expose him but he went to another paper and in some way prevented the expose. What could he have said to the second paper to stop it?

He alleged that at one point Saville was about to be exposed by a tabloid newspaper, but quickly arranged an interview with a rival tabloid which had the effect of stopping the negative article.

Spread

Any adult male that takes an inordinate interest in young girls has got to be suspect. I'm not talking doting father/grandfather here. But men who gravitate towards areas that puts them in close contact with young girls - be they work related or otherwise - should be strictly vetted on a regular basis. And parents should recognise when grooming begins to take place.
Being a Mason would certainly have helped him to stifle legitimate inquiry ...... considering the percentage of Masons in the heirarchy of the police in Britain and in Fleet St.
I think most ordinary people - not luvvies - realised that this was not normal behaviour. I mean his caravan parked in school grounds! Inviting young girls to his hotel room! Sitting on a chair with a young girl on his knee, behind closed doors, and whirling 'round!
This perverted fruitcake also seems to have been emotionally void ....... apart from his bank account.
Jimmy $aviLLe, OBE, KCSG, paedophile, (1926 - 2011)

purplepanda

Amazing we have the so many naive posters & a minority of public opinion who always deny any wrong doing by those exposed of child abuse.:rolleyes:

Doesn't matter if the guilty are celebrities, politicians, education professionals, youth workers or clerics someone is always ready to defend them, make excuses for these vile predators & a maybe even try to blame the victims. :mad:

Child abuse is prevalent amongst the elite of society in most western countries & some in the establishment will even justify it as some form of modern pederasty. :mad:

AlarmBelle

Spread wrote: »

Jimmy $aviLLe, OBE, KCSG, paedophile, (1926 - 2011)

very good especially the $

Dravokivich

Spread wrote: »

But men who gravitate towards areas that puts them in close contact with young girls - be they work related or otherwise - should be strictly vetted

Eh... there's been many problems with women involved in sexually abusing kids as well. I'd be off the opinion that anyone who works with children require some formal vetting. As a safe guard for them, as much as the children.

Spread

Dravokivich wrote: »

Eh... there's been many problems with women involved in sexually abusing kids as well. I'd be off the opinion that anyone who works with children require some formal vetting. As a safe guard for them, as much as the children.

Yes, I understand that. But this particular thread is about a male paedophile ...... I'm just keeping on topic!

Ashbourne hoop

Dravokivich wrote: »

Eh... there's been many problems with women involved in sexually abusing kids as well. I'd be off the opinion that anyone who works with children require some formal vetting. As a safe guard for them, as much as the children.

Yeah, you'd think there would be some sort of Garda vetting scheme put in place..........

Spread

Delancey wrote: »

A BBC documentary that explored the very poor off-screen relationship between Brambell and his TV 'son' Harry H. Corbett stated he ( Brambell ) was a paedophile sex tourist and this was a source of friction between the 2 actors as well as Brambell being constantly pissed on set.

As soon as they finished shooting a series Brambell was on his way to the flesh pots of the far east.

Or The Green in Shepherd's Bush, W12 ......... where he got a warning or conviction AFAIK

getz

Spread wrote: »

Yes, I understand that. But this particular thread is about a male paedophile ...... I'm just keeping on topic!

he was rarther partial to dead people to