'Classic' films you didn't think were all that great.

leggo

Dr Zhivago...it's just long!

Also have to agree with those who said LOTR, James Bond movies and 2001 (and I like most of Kubrick's other work).

GLaDOS

DazMarz wrote: »

Bane is also this HUGE muscly dude who looks like he could rip a phonebook in half, but where the makers dropped the ball was the voice. Man, it was all I could do to keep from bursting out laughing at the ridiculousness of that stupid voice of Bane's. Who the hell thought that a wheezy, constipated-aristocrat voice was intimidating? Could they not have done a deeper, more malevolent voice á la Darth Vader or something??? Jesus...

Agree about the voice completely, couldn't take Bane seriously as a character as a result.

Chloris

DazMarz wrote: »

The Lord Of The Rings ... the way some fanboys (and girls) of the films cream themselves over them is beyond a joke. LOTR is overly long and overblown and the acting from some of the characters leaves a lot to be desired IMO.

As one of the aforementioned LoTR fetishists, I will agree with you there... with Sean Asten in particular. But Merry and Pippin are great so they compensate. Christopher Lee, though. Tell me he didn't make up for that tenfold. And Ian McKellen, what a boss.

It's a self-professed epic fantasy series; you need to know what you're getting into before you start. And I'd imagine most of the major fans will have read the Silmarillion too, so the universe makes a lot more sense and the character bios, history of Middle Earth and the analogies with the real world won't be lost on them like it would be on the casual observer.

Once you immerse yourself in the lore surrounding that world, it becomes like the Elder Scrolls series or Game of Thrones. It's just an entirely new plane of understanding which you will either reject as bollocks or lovingly and appreciatively accept.

DazMarz wrote: »

Bane is also this HUGE muscly dude who looks like he could rip a phonebook in half, but where the makers dropped the ball was the voice. Man, it was all I could do to keep from bursting out laughing at the ridiculousness of that stupid voice of Bane's. Who the hell thought that a wheezy, constipated-aristocrat voice was intimidating? Could they not have done a deeper, more malevolent voice á la Darth Vader or something??? Jesus...

I totally agree with you. I said after I watched it that they should have gotten the Peter Serafinowicz on the job.

Rothko

Vanishing Point
Titanic

Sea Sharp

What I liked about There Will Be Blood was that it felt like an authentic depiction of the time it was set in. Life was very uneventful back then and I think showing that in the movie is what makes people find it boring.

Chloris

Also, it depicts all the empty promises tycoons will make before they earn their millions, and the way they often alienate themselves from those around them. It was such a brilliantly conceived plot; a man could never have treated his own son that way, but because he came by the boy and thought of him as a pretty face, after he became deaf he had no trouble berating him as "a bastard from a basket".

I always feel conflicted by the end of the film - absolutely gutted for Daniel but also delighted that Eli got his comeuppance.

Bannasidhe

leggo wrote: »

Dr Zhivago...it's just long!

Also have to agree with those who said LOTR, James Bond movies and 2001 (and I like most of Kubrick's other work).

Oh lord - that reminds me 2001 - A Space Odd....hated it!

Motorist

Snowie wrote: »

Cinema photogrpahy was top notch to !

Brilliant film.

tedobrien98

2 films.

Dirty Dancing - Was told it was one of the greatest films of all time... Was forced to watch it... WTF?!?! WHAT IN GOD'S NAME IS ALL THAT SH1TE ABOUT?!?!

Avatar - Went to see it in the cinema only a day or 2 after it came out, thinking it was going to be historic and stuff... Again I say, WTF?!? For ages leading up to it's release people were saying how amazing it was going to be, best film since Titanic... (also overrated but still one of the best films ever made) They couldn't have been more wrong... One of the worst films I have ever watched...

--Kaiser--

Heat
Mediocre film with too convoluted a plot and extraneous characters and scenes which should have been edited out. Features the first scene where Robert De Niro and Al Pacino act together. Except they both phone it in, unexepctional performances from each throughout (and this was on the days before they became paraodies of themselves)

Inception
This is one of the worst films I have had the displeasure of viewing and the only film I've ever walked out on. Interminable, boring exposition, pitiful acting, risible dialogue and the most stupidly, uselessly, needlessly complicated plot.

The only good things about this film are the immense Hans Zimmer soundtrack and some of the special effects scenes. If you like this film, you are a moron who probably feels clever after watching it

Brian_Zeluz

Bladerunner - ok, not great
Avatar - ooh look cgi stuff and not much else
Lord of the rings - Zzzzzzzzzzzz, is it over yet?
The aviator - boooorrring

Slow Show

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

If you like this film, you are a moron who probably feels clever after watching it

I respect your opinion regarding not liking certain films and all that but Inception might just be my favourite film ever and I'd like to think that I'm not a moron.

Galwayguy35

I think Casino was a very average film at best, it wasn't a patch on Goodfellas.

mikemac1

Beautiful island
Hans Zimmer soundtrack
Top cast

All the ingredients for a top film

The Thin Red Line
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, long and boring

dorothymantooth

secretary. apart from the spanking

Corholio

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

Heat
Mediocre film with too convoluted a plot and extraneous characters and scenes which should have been edited out. Features the first scene where Robert De Niro and Al Pacino act together. Except they both phone it in, unexepctional performances from each throughout (and this was on the days before they became paraodies of themselves)

Inception
This is one of the worst films I have had the displeasure of viewing and the only film I've ever walked out on. Interminable, boring exposition, pitiful acting, risible dialogue and the most stupidly, uselessly, needlessly complicated plot.

The only good things about this film are the immense Hans Zimmer soundtrack and some of the special effects scenes. If you like this film, you are a moron who probably feels clever after watching it

My initial suspicions were confirmed by that last sentence :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'd put Drive in this category, a tedious film that sole selling point seemed to be the fact that not very much happens.

Liam O

Corholio wrote: »

My initial suspicions were confirmed by that last sentence :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'd put Drive in this category, a tedious film that sole selling point seemed to be the fact that not very much happens.

Don't see how anyone can say nothing happens in Drive, indeed the silence I found to be deafening in some scenes and made the violent outbursts all the more shocking.

To say anyone who likes Inception is a moron is wrong, I can see how people liked it and I was able to suspend belief in the cinema but when I left I just thought to myself that they were actually talking about dream levels in that movie and that it was actually quite shallow. Well acted and brilliantly scored and those elements I really enjoyed but The Prestige is a far better movie from Nolan imo that didn't get the credit it deserved because it came out pre-Dark Knight and Inception came out after.

SlyBacon93

I didnt think anchorman was all that good, full of childish and immature humour. I also despise people that quote from it regularly.

Odaise Gaelach

Take the last fifteen minutes (i.e. everything after Red getting out of prison) off The Shawshank Redemption and it's perfect.

Juno tried far too hard to be cool and hip and edgy and offbeat and everything, especially with its really bad dialog ("Swear to blog"? Seriously?).

2001: A Space Odyssey is also bollocks.

wilkie2006

Colmustard wrote: »

Gawd, it was a brilliantly constructed film, the dingy 70s and it showed you how computers tidied up the world and it had a cast to die for.

But I hadn't a clue what was going on and I read the book.

And UCI wouldn't give me a refund.

I think that the problem was that the book is too long and complicated to make film out of. The BBC had it right the first time when they serialised the story.

AlmightyCushion

2001 a space odyssey - Boring as hell but you stick with it thinking it's building to something really brilliant but nope, nothing. I reckon Kubrick didn't have a clue how to end it so threw in some weird shít and "left it to the viewer to decide what happened".

AlmightyCushion

Liam O wrote: »

Don't see how anyone can say nothing happens in Drive, indeed the silence I found to be deafening in some scenes and made the violent outbursts all the more shocking.

To say anyone who likes Inception is a moron is wrong, I can see how people liked it and I was able to suspend belief in the cinema but when I left I just thought to myself that they were actually talking about dream levels in that movie and that it was actually quite shallow. Well acted and brilliantly scored and those elements I really enjoyed but The Prestige is a far better movie from Nolan imo that didn't get the credit it deserved because it came out pre-Dark Knight and Inception came out after.

The Prestige is brilliant but I still think Memento is his best film. If you haven't seen it yet, stop what ever you are doing and watch it, NOW!

Liam O

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

The Prestige is brilliant but I still think Memento is his best film. If you haven't seen it yet, stop what ever you are doing and watch it, NOW!

It's been on my to do list for a very long time, keep getting distracted by TV shows I have to be in a certain mood to watch serious movies at home I find.

AngryHippie

tiny timy wrote: »

Apoc now, just didnt get it at all.everyone sayingits amazing,i just dont get whats amazing.found it really boring

I really liked this one, largely due to having ready Heart of Darkness and Dipatches before watching the movie the 2nd time, First time it didn't really strike much of a nerve, but the second time I was a lot more familiar with the facts and the fiction it was borrowing from and I really got into it. I could write a few thousand words on how creative the movie actually is, but I'm quiet sure everyone notices different elements and takes their own interpretations from it.

Masterfully done imo.

Optimalprimerib

I am going to say all of scorcesee's movies, well all that I have watched anyway, they are very bleak and depressing. I appreciate the quality of the likes of raging bull and goodfellas but I still don't like them. For some reason it felt like a chore watching them as if it was a funeral procession or something. When they were over, all my energy was sapped and I just did not enjoy the way they made me feel.

I think Nolan has only made one good film in batman begins, didn't enjoy memento that much, halfway through the prestige ( in which I was hoping I would enjoy) I remember thinking to myself, Christ this is boring. Inception is not nearly as clever as it thinks it is. The editing in the dark knight ( after multiple viewings I admit) leaves massive gaps. As for the dark knight rises, in my second viewing, I had to pinch myself to remind me that this is not one of those it's so bad it's good movies that I go see to laugh at. ( the first time, I do admit I enjoyed) but the second time, my god there are so many lazy edits and plot holes it's beyond a joke.

Not sure if it's a classic, but caddy shack was classed as one of the best comedies of all time... Worst movie ever. But maybe time was not its friend.

One final thing I will add though, as good ideas at often imitated, never equalled, when you watch a classic movie now, alot of the ideas that made them great would have been parodied, borrowed or stolen in various other forms of media, diluting the impact it you are watching them for the very first time.

Wibbs

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Avatar- It was just "Fern Gully" with a massive budget.

Love Chloris link to Pocahontas comparison

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

2001 a space odyssey - Boring as hell but you stick with it thinking it's building to something really brilliant but nope, nothing. I reckon Kubrick didn't have a clue how to end it so threw in some weird shít and "left it to the viewer to decide what happened".

They shot footage of the aliens(beings of light type of stuff) but didn't use em in the end. While I'd not sit down and break out the popcorn with glee to watch 2001, what I do like about it is that it's a pure cinematic experience. It couldn't be a play, it wouldn't make much of a book and it's dies on TV. For a studio film it was brave in that sense. Though I generally find Kubrick cold, it worked for that film. I'd also give him a serious nod for Dr. Strangelove.

Optimalprimerib wrote: »

I am going to say all of scorcesee's movies, well all that I have watched anyway, they are very bleak and depressing. I appreciate the quality of the likes of raging bull and goodfellas but I still don't like them. For some reason it felt like a chore watching them as if it was a funeral procession or something. When they were over, all my energy was sapped and I just did not enjoy the way they made me feel.

For me though I like Scorcese's stuff, he can be a bit tricksey. You're aware of the camera too often for me. EG the famous steadicam shot in goodfellas. Yea it's cool, drives the plot, but is jarring with it. He can make odd mistakes too. Like in the same flick there's a tracking shot and you can clearly see the camera tracks. Well you could until they blurred and then CGI'd them out later on.

I'd add in Bruce lee films. Beyond his incredible physical condition I always found them shíte TBH.

inmyday

Chloris wrote: »

I can not get enough of that trilogy. Best thing is the Extended Addition box set with all of the omitted scenes included; I just think they're a mastery of film-making. From the revolutionary CGI they used (you know, they set up their own f-in' company so that the technology would be up to scratch?!), to the absolutely beautiful scenery, to the cinematic tricks to create proportion and scale in characters... I just thought that series was a work of art.

Id rather watch Two Girls One Cup on a loop for 9 hours straight than watch the Lord of my ring. Horrible watching, not enjoyable at all, very boring. I can not express my hate enough for these movies. I hate them a lot!

And reading your description above makes me cry a little. I now hate you Chloris.

Skerries

Wibbs wrote: »

While I'd not sit down and break out the popcorn with glee to watch 2001, what I do like about it is that it's a pure cinematic experience. It couldn't be a play, it wouldn't make much of a book and it's dies on TV.

not sure if serious or not but the film was based on an Arthur C. Clarke book of the same name

--Kaiser--

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

2001 a space odyssey - Boring as hell but you stick with it thinking it's building to something really brilliant but nope, nothing. I reckon Kubrick didn't have a clue how to end it so threw in some weird shít and "left it to the viewer to decide what happened".

It was based on a book by Arthur C Clarke so he ended it as the book ended it. I will admit that I didn't understand what happened in the end until I read the book.

As Wibbs says, it's a pure cinema film. The only way to watch it now is in a darkened room with the sound blared up and no talking or distractions, then you might get something from it. It's my favoutite film but I can fully understand why people hate it so

smilerf

Shawshank Redemption is way overrated