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Is your doctor healthier than you?

  • 06-08-2012 6:24pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭


    I've noticed that a few of my doctors over the years are in pretty bad shape, not the best message to be sending your patients.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭mauzo


    I go to 2 male doctors. Both are very overweight, not my place to say really, could be reasons behind it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Most of my doctors look fairly healthy.

    But, from working in a hospital, I've noticed a huge number of doctors and nurses smoke. They're only human.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    Its meant to have a high incidence of suicides and alcoholism, a Doctor's lot is not a happy lot.

    Mine seems in good shape.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭kelle


    I keep bumping into mine ( a married couple who run a surgery) at races, and they always finish ahead of me so...yes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    He was the last time I saw him. It's been a few years but I would still say yes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭Nolimits


    Not really relevant is it?

    A doctors job is to treat you, and to advise you on how to live your life (health wise) whether they take that advice themselves or not is largely irrelevant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    They do say that your only an alcoholic if you drink more than your doctor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Gmol


    When I go to the doctors I take his blood pressure and tell him he needs to lose weight still costs me 45 yoyos


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭marshbaboon


    My old doctor was healthy enough I guess but must have been trained during the 70's. He honestly never had any idea what was going on. Put me into the habit of only ever going to see a GP if I need prescription drugs.

    Saying that overweight doctors shouldn't be giving dietary advice is an ad hominem. They can be perfectly educated on the subject and able to provide guidance on it, even if they spend most of their free time sliding egg mcmuffins down their fat gullet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭Eurovisionmad


    Yeah mine is, in fact all of them in that surgery are very healthy!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    My old doctor was healthy enough I guess but must have been trained during the 70's. He honestly never had any idea what was going on. Put me into the habit of only ever going to see a GP if I need prescription drugs.

    Saying that overweight doctors shouldn't be giving dietary advice is an ad hominem. They can be perfectly educated on the subject and able to provide guidance on it, even if they spend most of their free time sliding egg mcmuffins down their fat gullet.

    Of course but it's a bad signal to send out, people subconsciously find being overweight more acceptable as a result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Nolimits wrote: »
    Not really relevant is it?

    A doctors job is to treat you, and to advise you on how to live your life (health wise) whether they take that advice themselves or not is largely irrelevant.

    Its very relevant, this being AH, our discussions wander from the ridiculous to ...... and so on and so forth so to say its irrelevant flies in the face of everything we stand for. Now where's my stethoscope thingy , nurse ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭crazy cabbage


    As the saying goes

    Do as i say, not as i do.

    ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Ghandee wrote: »
    They do say that your only an alcoholic if you drink more than your doctor.

    What I want to know is who 'they' are and why do insist on saying such silly things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    I hate my doctor! He's not particularly overweight but he doesn't look the healthiest either. Plus I'm very uncomfortable around him as he gives off a strange vibe.

    So you can image how much I'm going to enjoy having my testicular exam this week! :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭3rdDegree


    Mine is very healthy. Cycles everywhere. His surgery is near where I work. A few years ago, when I was quitting smoking, every time I'd go outside for a sneaky smoke, I'd hear a shout of "I thought you gave up those fcuking fags" as he'd zip by on his bike. Don't know how he did it, but he always used to catch me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    What I want to know is who 'they' are and why do insist on saying such silly things.

    The people who told me that 'your only an alcoholic if you drink more than your doctor.'

    Why do they insist on saying it? Drunk talk, anono, sweet drunk talk mate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    My doctor doesn't look well at all, He needs to talk to the mirror.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Not very scientific is it? Your basically just asking us whether our doctors are fat or not, we know nothing else about our doctors health.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Ghandee wrote: »
    The people who told me that 'your only an alcoholic if you drink more than your doctor.'

    Why do they insist on saying it? Drunk talk, anono, sweet drunk talk mate.

    Do you remember who they were though? Next time they tell you something get a photo.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Not very scientific is it? Your basically just asking us whether our doctors are fat or not, we know nothing else about our doctors health.


    Scientific doesn't fit into After hours ;) Fat & doctors do :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    On a more kinda serious note there are quite a few doctors who smoke, Which I find kinda strange.

    Source my eyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    realies wrote: »
    Scientific doesn't fit into After hours ;) Fat & doctors do :D

    Scientific does fit into After Hours....

    After Scientific Hours.. see..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    3rdDegree wrote: »
    Mine is very healthy. Cycles everywhere. His surgery is near where I work. A few years ago, when I was quitting smoking, every time I'd go outside for a sneaky smoke, I'd hear a shout of "I thought you gave up those fcuking fags" as he'd zip by on his bike. Don't know how he did it, but he always used to catch me.

    He isn't a doctor, he's just stalking you. He enjoys your check ups a bit too much, doesn't he?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    I remember being down for an appointment with a consultant in the hospital last year. He came back after lunch and into his office with a pile of rubbish like crisps, bar of chocolate and a bottle of fanta. I was a little shocked i just assumed they would be all healthy eating.

    My own GP is a health freak though, he is always out running and he is no spring chicken.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A dietician I work with once told me that nutrigrain elevenses bars are healthy :eek:

    She's quite overweight - like even more than me! :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    My GP is very fit and sporty. He's big into rowing and looks very well for his age. :pac:

    My cardiologist appears healthy, but I couldn't be certain as I don't know that much about him.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,505 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    I have MS and pemhigoitus so any of my docs will generally be well ahead on the health front.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    My GP is a fitness freak. Cycles to and from work every day and is always in those triathlon events

    Sound man too

    My GP is very fit and sporty. He's big into rowing and looks very well for his age. :pac:

    Aiming to become Mrs GP? ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Miss Lockhart


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    My GP is a fitness freak. Cycles to and from work every day and is always in those triathlon events

    Sound man too




    Aiming to become Mrs GP? ;)

    If only he was single!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    My old doctor was healthy enough I guess but must have been trained during the 70's. He honestly never had any idea what was going on. Put me into the habit of only ever going to see a GP if I need prescription drugs.

    Saying that overweight doctors shouldn't be giving dietary advice is an ad hominem. They can be perfectly educated on the subject and able to provide guidance on it, even if they spend most of their free time sliding egg mcmuffins down their fat gullet.

    More likely to be paté and steaks - same effect though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    A girl I went to school with did nutrition in college. She inflated like a balloon and I don't say that to be mean. I wouldn't take advice off her in a fit. Nutrition is such a simple thing I can't help wondering what gets taught to flesh it out. Anyone could educate themselves online in no time at all.
    My own doctor is getting on but he's plenty healthy. A decent sort.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Shryke wrote: »
    A girl I went to school with did nutrition in college. She inflated like a balloon and I don't say that to be mean. I wouldn't take advice off her in a fit. Nutrition is such a simple thing I can't help wondering what gets taught to flesh it out. Anyone could educate themselves online in no time at all.

    The people who knows most about diets are people who constantly fail

    If you trained hard, were disciplined and ate right then one diet would sort you out.

    But some fail and fail and then fail again and instead of blaming themselves they read more and so they know everything from books but they never actually apply it

    Do you work in an office?
    I bet there are some wimmins who talk about diets all day yet go eat biscuits for evelenses ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    The people who knows most about diets are people who constantly fail

    If you trained hard, were disciplined and ate right then one diet would sort you out.

    But some fail and fail and then fail again and instead of blaming themselves they read more and so they know everything from books but they never actually apply it

    Do you work in an office?
    I bet there are some wimmins who talk about diets all day yet go eat biscuits for evelenses ;)

    You make a good point although this girl chose to study it in college, rather than be obsessive about losing weight it seemed that as she learned about nutrition she put on massive weight which made little sense and I wouldn't listen to anything she would say. Anyone that would need a nutritionist without some kind of specialist condition is really a person looking for someone less stupid than them to take their money.
    I carried extra weight myself for a while years ago now and had no problem dropping a few stone.
    Not meaning to rant or give abuse here really so I'll hush up now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭his_dudeness


    The bad habits start in Med School.

    Speaking from experience (i'm a "junior" doc, 4 years post graduation), unless you compete at sports at a very high level through college, be it rowing or GAA/Sigerson or athletics, the impetus to keep healthy versus study inevitably falls on the study side, clocking up 14/16 hours days in the library for 6 to 8 months a year, fueled by coffee and fairly unhealthy college canteen food, not too mention blowing off steam at the weekends with way more alcohol than needed. Add in stress, which lead to more people in my graduatiing class smoking at the end of college than did when we started 6 years prior, it certainly puts the docs on the back foot before they've even started working!

    Then there's the working environment. Long days in illegal 28/36 (and occasionally longer) shifts where they are usually confined to the hospital grounds due to the need to cover in case of cardiac arrests, means the only food accessble is again dodgy hospital canteen food or ordering take away in to the hospital. Coffee and cigarettes play a major part in the diet too. Then when they do leave work, they're too tired for proper exercise.

    This, I accept, is a generalisation and things are getting better. There has been huge growth in marathon running and triathlons in the medical profession recently, and there was even an inaugaraul National Medical Half Marathon a few months ago. But not everyones into that sort of thing.

    If everyone followed their own good advice, we probably wouldn't have ended up in this economic situation (there surely is something ironic of bankers going bankrupt......)


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