Sick troll gets his comeuppance on Facebook!

Bad Panda

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Well the "kill all fags" page would be more along "kill them for being gay" and outright condoning murder.

No, it wouldn't be okay on Facebook I don't think, it'd be considered hate speech since you're essentially saying "if you're gay and you die, it's your fault for being gay".

Or at least I think that's what your post was about.

Yeah kind of! But you can apply the same thing to dead babies - or at least in way of perhaps offending a mother who carried a baby that died or was still born..

minidazzler

davet82 wrote: »

i think its funny cause its annoyed him, a practical joke... its not me so its funny, so fcuk'em, it made me laugh :P

Yeah, but it's not a joke. It's not a practical joke, it's just ratting someone out because you are upset by something they said which calls for no harm to anyone.

Medusa22

Never heard of the dead baby jokes until people got offended. They are jokes, they aren't inciting hatred. It is quite stupid to post them on a public page with all of your personal information though. They are hypothetically dead babies, I presume, so why should anybody be offended? Unless you are insane and have an imaginary friend who happens to be one of these hypothetically dead babies, in that case it is unfortunate.

Bad Panda

minidazzler wrote: »

Calling for the death of people for whatever they are is not a joke.

Telling a joke about the death or dying can be offensive, but humorous. I'm not gonna pretend to be a moral authority, but basically if you are calling for the death of people because you hate something about them, you're bad in my book. If you tell a joke about it, it's either funny or not, but can't really complain.

The joke about gay people (hypothetical) is not about calling for the death of them.

They were jokes (again, hypothetical) about death or dying, but instead of babies, they're gay people.

Sure, it would depend how to you tell the jokes, but you can tell jokes about the death of gay people without projecting a view that you personally think they should be killed or whatever.

davet82

minidazzler wrote: »

Yeah, but it's not a joke. It's not a practical joke, it's just ratting someone out because you are upset by something they said which calls for no harm to anyone.

yeah but its still funny :pac:


jesus lighten up

Tombi!

Bad Panda wrote: »

Yeah kind of! But you can apply the same thing to dead babies - or at least in way of perhaps offending a mother who carried a baby that died or was still born..

Not exactly, it's kinda different, I hope

Let's say I'm gay and I have sex with a man and I get an STD. And someone posted a page saying "all fags will die from STDs for being fags". That's gone from "joke" to hate speech and wouldn't be allowed.

Now if for example it was say... a woman that was raped and chose to try to have the baby and it was a miscarriage and the page was something like "raped women should abort otherwise the babies will die", then yes it's the same thing.

But posting the dead babies jokes are kinda akin to you falling off a 500ft building and dying and people posting jokes about people dying from falling from high heights.

And now I hope I didn't confuse you

Jorah

What he's doing is not illegal.

So Ben Hey has taken it upon himself to try and ruin this persons life (who isn't breaking the law) because he dislikes the contents of the jokes being made.

Furthermore, this is also being done so that Ben Hey receives adulation from the rest of the morons who dislike the content of the website.

He's effectively dressing up an attention seeking/glory-hunting action as some kind of moral duty.

A complete scumbag who wants the world to dance to his tune, and if it doesn't he will use intimidating tactics to make it the way he wants.

****ing scumbag.

minidazzler

davet82 wrote: »

yeah but its still funny :pac:


jesus lighten up

It's the undue persecution of someone for speaking their mind. To me that's sicker than the jokes.

donalg1

Zulu wrote: »

Ah yeah, the "look the other way defense", thats never been problematic! :rolleyes:

Well in fairness if there is something I dont like reading, I dont read it. Or if there is something on TV that may offend me I obviously wouldnt watch it. Its a very simple theory really but works suprisingly well.

davet82

minidazzler wrote: »

It's the undue persecution of someone for speaking their mind. To me that's sicker than the jokes.

in your opinion, are you actually trying to tell me what is and is not funny?

now you're just being a hypocrite :P

Fighting Irish

Ghandee wrote: »

I have seen the page 'dead baby jokes' on facebook popping up on my news feed from time to time, with people requesting likes to get it shut down.

However, one person seems to have taken it to a new level.

This person has taken a screen shot of one individuals very abusive and disgusting references to babys, and is emailing the persons university, workplace, and his local poilce station with the comments he made.


Has the person reporting them gone too far?


Judge for yourself.

http://www.facebook.com/GetDeadBabyJokesPageBanned/posts/433027750082749

Definitely, it's all fun and games really, they aren't actually hurting anyone, and nobody is forced to look at the page

Duggy747

I wonder, out of those 50,000+ people who liked Ben's comment plus those commenting on it watch South Park / Family Guy, animations that specialise in black humour.

Anyways, where the picture / comments Sam made?

minidazzler

davet82 wrote: »

in your opinion, are you actually trying to tell me what is and is not funny?

now you're just being a hypocrite :P

No, you can find undue persecution funny I suppose. But that is what it is, whether you find it funny or not.

I don't think it should happen, and I'm not happy to let it happen, because it has a tangible effect on a mans life, unlike the telling of a simple joke.

Tombi!

minidazzler wrote: »

No, you can find undue persecution funny I suppose. But that is what it is, whether you find it funny or not.

I don't think it should happen, and I'm not happy to let it happen, because it has a tangible effect on a mans life, unlike the telling of a simple joke.

I thought he was joking and I hope he was

minidazzler

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

I thought he was joking and I hope he was

He is, I would think, using :P tells me he is anyway. But I like to clarify my position in case he wasn't.

ScumLord

Duggy747 wrote: »

I wonder, out of those 50,000+ people who liked Ben's comment plus those commenting on it watch South Park / Family Guy, animations that specialise in black humour.

Of course they do, but if the TV says it from a socially popular source then it's ok. There is no thought process going on with them, it's just blind mob rage, it's the kind of thing that got Jesus killed.

RoyalMarine

frozenfrozen wrote: »

as long as they're not actually killing babies what is the problem? Why don't westboro baptist church get in the trouble this person will get in?

The jokes are just proving that people get offended far too easily. It's a joke, fcuk off and hide their post on facebook if you wish

do you have the same attitude towards people watching child porn?
as long as they're not the ones abusing the children, whats the problem?

edit: before anyone gets their knickers in a twist, this post was a pisstake....

davet82

minidazzler wrote: »

No, you can find undue persecution funny I suppose. But that is what it is, whether you find it funny or not.

I don't think it should happen, and I'm not happy to let it happen, because it has a tangible effect on a mans life, unlike the telling of a simple joke.

thats fair enough, do i think its fair, no but i do think its funny.

i could just imagine trying to explain to my boss what i was doing posting dead baby jokes :pac:

the link wont load on my phone. was the guy posting the jokes doing it annoymously?

El Guapo!

People gettin offended by this and posting on the page are fúcking idiots. A couple of people on my friends list on Facebook also commented on the page saying it should be taken down. It infuriated me but I didn't bother replying because those people can barely spell their own name and you could never win an argument with them because they can't comprehend any argument which doesn't go along with their opinion.
The bottom line is this guy did nothing wrong. If you don't like the jokes...don't read them. Simple as that.
If these people put as much effort into protesting against this government we might actually get somewhere, but no, they're all imbeciles.

pickarooney

amtw wrote: »

Or maybe because the jokes are about innocent cuddly babies, everyone knows that they are jokes and cannot be taken in anyway seriously. Whereasif they were about other groups, those hearing them might think that jokes about people of other races, cultures, genders etc could be just covering up the posters own prejudices.

Pretty much this. Blonde jokes and ginger jokes fall into the same category, although not everyone would agree on the latter.

How is Ben Hay going to ruin this guy's life though - it seems all he's doing is alerting some people to the fact that he's posting jokes. Should his employer or university fire/expel him for this?

Tombi!

RoyalMarine wrote: »

do you have the same attitude towards people watching child porn?
as long as they're not the ones abusing the children, whats the problem?

Please don't ever compare child porn to someone posting a bunch of tastless jokes.

Feeona

I wouldn't have known about the dead babies facebook page only for this thread.

I also wouldn't have known where Sam Emmett was from and what he did for a living either.


Freedom of speech....a great thing but only when the person using it has the same opinion as me :pac:

Tombi!

davet82 wrote: »

thats fair enough, do i think its fair, no but i do think its funny.

i could just imagine trying to explain to my boss what i was doing posting dead baby jokes :pac:

the link wont load on my phone. was the guy posting the jokes doing it annoymously?

I'll quote the post for you (word for word). I removed the name of the supposed person who made the jokes page and replaced it with "X".

X keep laughing coz u won't be for much longer, I know ur on here playing the hard man making Dead baby jokes and stating you wish to put ur cock in a child as well as racially abusing a young girl, so what I've decided to do is take a screen shot of all ur foul and abusive comments especially the ones about ' ramming ur cock in a child ' and I've included them in a email. Now this email shows and describes the poison you post. This is the cool bit, what I've decided to do is send this email to your Univeristy where your studying, ur college, your work royal mail I think it was and a Police station in Reading where you live. Many Thanks by the way for providing all this info on your timeline your too kind ;)Then I'm going to send this mail to all of your friends on facebook and see what they think of you openly been a racist and someone who toys with the idea of paedophilia, WOOPS uv made a boo boo here haven't you Emmett eh ? Lol Enjoy !!!!

minidazzler

RoyalMarine wrote: »

do you have the same attitude towards people watching child porn?
as long as they're not the ones abusing the children, whats the problem?

And the reward for dumbest post on the thread goes to...RoyalMarine.

That is not even nearly the same. There are NO DEAD BABIES in the jokes. But the ones watching Child Porn are watching actual children getting abused.

Telling jokes about it is not the same as doing it, not even nearly. But enjoying watching Child Porn is watching the actual harm of children.

davet82

what the guy did by exposing him was in bad taste but its not illegal?

Tombi!

davet82 wrote: »

what the guy did by exposing him was in bad taste but its not illegal?

Technically no, that's the irony of it.
I'm not sure if it was the same person who did make the page but I assume it is.

All that happened was some idiot made the page, someone finds the profile of said idiot and goes on a tattling rampage in order to ruin their lives. Some people think (and I hope so much) that the person's profile was fake and it's not real info.

But as far as I know, there wasn't any accessing accounts or anything so it's perfectly fine.

minidazzler

davet82 wrote: »

what the guy did by exposing him was in bad taste but its not illegal?

Not illegal, at all. Cnutish though, and not done for "de childers" it was done for the adulation he knew he would get on that facebook page. He had no reason to do it except his own gratification, it's not like he is protecting children at all. And why would he need to tell a facebook about it?

Einhard

This would be hilarious if it wasn't so completely mindnumbingly stupid. All the morally self-righteous idiots are thanking this Ben hey guy ofr taking a stand, and at the same time demanding that the other guy should kill himself, or hoping that he'll get raped in prison. I hate these illiterate, ignorant, freedom thrashing fucktards far more than i dislike the guy telling his dead babies jokes.

Ryuji_w

The guy clearly doesn't care about those guys

Why because of this

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Controversial-Humor-Dead-Baby-Jokes/422912285264

TheStook

I'm Fcuking sick of this seriously, people writing on the page on my newsfeed saying "Sick ****" Etc.

THEY ARE JOKES, NOTHING MORE!
THEY ARE FUNNY FOR THE MOST PART.

Frankie Boyle pretty much makes a living out of it for Christs sake.
If anything the guy who is reporting him is the criminal here, trying to ruin the other guys life all over a stupid Facebook page. Yes, the jokes are in bad taste but they are no worse than Racist or Sexist jokes Imo.

Has anyone seen the comments under yer mans post, people saying " I hope he dies a slow and painful death" Etc. Now thats ****ed up in more ways. These narrow minded idiots don't realize how Ironic they are. What is wrong with the world. That is all.

TheStook

Repost, sorry.

GunRunner

In my opinion, yes, the person reporting them has gone too far. If he is that offended by them he could easily just block the user who is posting them. I think people have gotten way too PC and over-sensitive about things like this, after all, the man who he reported was posting JOKES, which were obviously not supposed to be taken seriously. People like Ben Hay are part of the reason why I don't use Facebook.

RoyalMarine

minidazzler wrote: »

And the reward for dumbest post on the thread goes to...RoyalMarine.

That is not even nearly the same. There are NO DEAD BABIES in the jokes. But the ones watching Child Porn are watching actual children getting abused.

Telling jokes about it is not the same as doing it, not even nearly. But enjoying watching Child Porn is watching the actual harm of children.

where's my prize?

Dave!

Next up: Holocaust jokes. Then Islam jokes. Then racist jokes. Then sexist jokes.

And don't get me started on Kerryman jokes...

Dr.Broccoli

I hope that Ben Hay gets loads of abuse on facebook now.

davet82

minidazzler wrote: »

And why would he need to tell a facebook about it?

for the laugh? :P

seriously though, i know the reasons this guy done it and was not for that.

some would say its karma for telling dead baby jokes...

me, i think they're both knob heads :pac:

if you would go into the canteen in work and tell dead baby jokes then post them on facebook if not, like most normal people, keep them for friends who share your sense of humor would be my advice for anybody thinking of doing the same.

hatrickpatrick

The internet. It's serious business.

There are some complete assholes out there who are sworn enemies of freedom of speech. Thing is, though I agree the person who reported this is an asshole, the guy who posted it is an idiot. The first rule of trolling is to remember that the world is full of pro-censorship fascists and act accordingly - in this case, don't use your real name or normal FB profile.

Britain is especially backwards, with people actually being brought to court for offending someone on Twitter. It's a sad, sad state of affairs indeed.

Dr.Broccoli

I wonder is this Ben Hey trying to expose the people who post on sickipedia? He should have a look on there

minidazzler

davet82 wrote: »

for the laugh? :P

seriously though, i know the reasons this guy done it and was not for that.

some would say its karma for telling dead baby jokes...

me, i think they're both knob heads :pac:

if you would go into the canteen in work and tell dead baby jokes then post them on facebook if not, like most normal people, keep them for friends who share your sense of humor would be my advice for anybody thinking of doing the same.

It was on a page called Dead Baby Jokes. Not on someones wall, it's a public page that you never have to see what's written there unless you go look for it. So essentially it is like going to a group of similar humoured friends, then being accidentally over heard by some eavesdropper.

Mr. CooL ICE

AnonoBoy wrote: »

We should have a different internet for people who hate free speech.

Then they'd never have to be offended again.

Its called Aertel

Tombo2001

This isnt censorship, I dont know why thats being brought up.

As people keep telling us, it was only jokes.....and if they are just jokes, then surely his university colleagues, elderly aunt and prospective employers will see it as such, as being just jokes.

Whats the big deal then if they are told about it?

Einhard

Tombo2001 wrote: »

This isnt censorship, I dont know why thats being brought up.

As people keep telling us, it was only jokes.....and if they are just jokes, then surely his university colleagues, elderly aunt and prospective employers will see it as such, as being just jokes.

Whats the big deal then if they are told about it?

Because a lot of people are reactionary idiots, ad unfortunately they don't confine themselves to riding their high horses around Facebook all day.

Tombi!

Tombo2001 wrote: »

This isnt censorship, I dont know why thats being brought up.

As people keep telling us, it was only jokes.....and if they are just jokes, then surely his university colleagues, elderly aunt and prospective employers will see it as such, as being just jokes.

Whats the big deal then if they are told about it?

Because it's like "mammy mammy! Gues what Joe down the road said! He said a dirty word!". Except now the child is an adult and should fúcking act like one instead of throwing a hissy fit when they don't get their own way.

davet82

minidazzler wrote: »

It was on a page called Dead Baby Jokes. Not on someones wall, it's a public page that you never have to see what's written there unless you go look for it. So essentially it is like going to a group of similar humoured friends, then being accidentally over heard by some eavesdropper.

i'll be honest i dont use facebook so i dont know how it works. what i do know is that you do leave yourself open to shyte like this.

As i chuckle at the mess this guy got himself into, i understand exactly what you are saying and i even feel a small bit sorry for him tbh

neither have done anything illegal so people must not loose sight of this. its all very childish probably why its appealing to my sense of humor

mimsy

Casillas wrote: »

If only we could stifle the speech of everyone that offends, it would be a silent world.

Felt like being a bit poetic with my reply

But he isn't being stifled..... he can post whatever he wants when he wants! He is free to go ahead and continue to post this type of crap if he wants.

His nasty and sick points of view are only being notified to a more general audience than otherwise might have happened. They might be interested to know the type of person they are employing/sitting beside/living with.

Will see now if he is willing to stand by his jokes..

Ghandee

minidazzler wrote: »

It was on a page called Dead Baby Jokes. Not on someones wall, it's a public page that you never have to see what's written there unless you go look for it. So essentially it is like going to a group of similar humoured friends, then being accidentally over heard by some eavesdropper.

No, tbf the page was called 'petition to get dead baby jokes removed' (our something equally stupid)

The trolling came into it, when the guy who made some reference about a dead baby, and about sexually molesting a baby posted some troll remark on a site protesting about such jokes.

Two wrongs don't make a right, however when you actually go looking for trouble, and when trouble catches up with you, and bites you in the hole.

Man up, and take it.

The guy reporting/snitching on him went way too far IMO.

In saying that, so too did the troll. He could've at least created another page with his personal details hidden?

Dr.Broccoli

Tombo2001 wrote: »

This isnt censorship, I dont know why thats being brought up.

As people keep telling us, it was only jokes.....and if they are just jokes, then surely his university colleagues, elderly aunt and prospective employers will see it as such, as being just jokes.

Whats the big deal then if they are told about it?

You wouldn't be comfortable telling other people some things about yourself.

SweetCaliber

TheStook wrote: »

I'm Fcuking sick of this seriously, people writing on the page on my newsfeed saying "Sick ****" Etc.

THEY ARE JOKES, NOTHING MORE!
THEY ARE FUNNY FOR THE MOST PART.

Frankie Boyle pretty much makes a living out of it for Christs sake.
If anything the guy who is reporting him is the criminal here, trying to ruin the other guys life all over a stupid Facebook page. Yes, the jokes are in bad taste but they are no worse than Racist or Sexist jokes Imo.

Has anyone seen the comments under yer mans post, people saying " I hope he dies a slow and painful death" Etc. Now thats ****ed up in more ways. These narrow minded idiots don't realize how Ironic they are. What is wrong with the world. That is all.

Considering what this "vile human being" said I agree with all the comments.

How dare someone joke about babys that may have passed away. Some of the things the creator has said has made me sick.

Okay, fair enough he may not be harming the children but he is harming those who unfortunately lost a child.

The page should be shut down, it should not be allowed on such a public site. if they want to joke about these kind of things, take it over to Sickpedia or such, but please god keep it off my newsfeed.

I'm overall glad the fella was exposed, unfortunately we can't hide behind our screens and have a laugh. He deserves all the hate he is getting and it might make him think twice next time.

minidazzler

Ghandee wrote: »

No, tbf the page was called 'petition to get dead baby jokes removed' (our something equally stupid)

The trolling came into it, when the guy who made some reference about a dead baby, and about sexually molesting a baby posted some troll remark on a site protesting about such jokes.

Two wrongs don't make a right, however when you actually go looking for trouble, and when trouble catches up with you, and bites you in the hole.

Man up, and take it.

The guy reporting/snitching on him went way too far IMO.

In saying that, so too did the troll. He could've at least created another page with his personal details hidden?

My apologies, I was under the impression he was on the page for it.

He really is an idiot then, still doesn't deserve what's happening. And Ben Hey is still in the wrong, but he is an idiot.

MaxSteele

It's hard to even read half of the comments posted by offended facebookers.

Half of them are either illiterate, braindead youngones or jumped up, pretentious gunts fishing for likes.