Men-emasculated by 50 shades ?

pimbeche

Has anyone noticed that bar a handful of women , the bad reviews / outpouring of disaprovals for this book are mainly coming from men ?

Even looking at threads that have been started on boards , the majority of the slating is being done by men....

Just like porn has always been considered a guys thing , it seems that this book is turning into a womens thing.

While I dont love the book , I dont hate it either and Im beginning to think that maybe there is some jealousy coming from the guys that women have something of their own.

Am I the only one who has noticed this or what ?

kfallon

Again I'll just leave this here:

www.fiftyshadesgenerator.com

DrumSteve

Its ****ty twilight fan-porno-fiction.

That's about it.

ejmaztec

I thought this was about 50 cops who went on a nut-chopping spree.

Mr Benevolent

Do we really have to give a fuck? It's the Da Vinci Code of erotic novels. Easy to read sex for dumbos.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Because men already watch porn, whereas women are happy to have something new to flick their bean to.

Sea Filly

pimbeche wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that bar a handful of women , the bad reviews / outpouring of disaprovals for this book are mainly coming from men ?

Even looking at threads that have been started on boards , the majority of the slating is being done by men....

Just like porn has always been considered a guys thing , it seems that this book is turning into a womens thing.

While I dont love the book , I dont hate it either and Im beginning to think that maybe there is some jealousy coming from the guys that women have something of their own.

Am I the only one who has noticed this or what ?

No, the book is just shit. Female saying this. No man should feel threatened by the anti-erotic scenes in that book.

seamus

I've noticed that it's the subject of much ridicule, but I can't say whether it's been mostly men or women doing it.

It might just be that it's basically porn for women, which is now topping the bestseller list.

It would be equally hilarious if the latest issue of playboy managed to top the bestseller's list, or a porn movie made it onto the top movies list.

Sykk

Please stop creating threads about this drivel. Giving it even more attention. No one with an IQ higher than a carrot actually cares.

Links234

if you're emasculated by badly written erotic fiction, you can't be that confident in your masculinity to begin with

it's badly written sh!te

Corkfeen

seamus wrote: »

I've noticed that it's the subject of much ridicule, but I can't say whether it's been mostly men or women doing it.

It might just be that it's basically porn for women, which is now topping the bestseller list.

It would be equally hilarious if the latest issue of playboy managed to top the bestseller's list, or a porn movie made it onto the top movies list.

To be fair on Playboy, they had some genuinely talented writers writing for them (Short Stories).. Joseph Heller, Stephen King, Roald Dahl, Haruki Murakami and Vonnegut to mention a few (According to google as I'd have to trawl through some retro playboy otherwise) . I can't name the writer of Fifty Shades. But in all seriousness, I don't need Twilight Fan Fiction to emasculate me....... :pac:

entropi

bluewolf wrote: »

it's badly written sh!te

I wouldnt tarnish the name of shite, by having it compared to that stuff. Waste of ink and paper.

GLaDOS

I've heard more women criticise it, mostly cause it's mainly women who have read it.

There's a rather scathing review form a female here.

minidazzler

It cannot be emasculating to men. It's about a man taking charge.

The essential message of the whole book is every woman loves a bastard! :pac:

Diapason

pimbeche wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that bar a handful of women , the bad reviews / outpouring of disaprovals for this book are mainly coming from men ?

Have to say, in my case it's been the opposite. I was alerted to its crapness by a woman, and the derision continues to be spearheaded by my female friends. Bar the general "is it okay for me to read cum guzzling grannies on the bus now" comments from some men, most of them don't seem to give a crap at all.

Jaxxy

It's poorly written, unrealistic garbage that appears to appeal to women who aren't all that bright.

If a man is jealous of that book then he obviously isn't all that bright either.

Yakult

I am 12 and what is 50 shades of grey?

Fenian Army

Its a book that glorifies a massively abusive relationship. This is shrouded by her "consent" - "consent" isn't always meaningful consent and just because she agrees to it doesn't mean it's a good thing, or OK.

If anything this book is more damaging for women than men having that type of abusive relationship glorified.

Sea Filly

minidazzler wrote: »

It cannot be emasculating to men. It's about a man taking charge.

The essential message of the whole book is every woman loves a bastard! :pac:

Fenian Army wrote: »

Its a book that glorifies a massively abusive relationship. This is shrouded by her "consent" - "consent" isn't always meaningful consent and just because she agrees to it doesn't mean it's a good thing, or OK.

If anything this book is more damaging for women than men having that type of abusive relationship glorified.

Completely misunderstanding the appeal of S & M there! This book does it no justice either, BTW.

pimbeche

oh why has another thread been created about this - the book is just shoite ok :rolleyes:

why is everyone up in arms about it ?

If you really dont care then why post about it ?

My point was that men feel emasculated because their women are swatting them away as they would rather read a badly written erotic novel . Just like women have felt when their men watch porn.

For gods sake the book is not that bad to be making these kinds of waves . Theres been worse !!!!!!

kowloon

Brought to my attention when I asked a female friend what it was. She couldn't have been more scathing.

Grayson

I haven't read a single review by a man. All the reviews i saw here were by women. the one with the gifs was especially funny.

minidazzler

Sea Filly wrote: »

Completely misunderstanding the appeal of S & M there! This book does it no justice either, BTW.

Trust me, I Don't underestimate the appeal of BDSM. What the book does is give a virgin to a bastard, not show a couple engaging in a proper BDSM relationship.

Bad Panda

Every girl I know that's read it says it's a complete load of c0ck.

I couldn't care less if it's good or not. No harm in the ladies enjoying some good old fashioned smut.

I'm off to the MILF section of youp0rn.

Fenian Army

minidazzler wrote: »

Trust me, I Don't underestimate the appeal of BDSM. What the book does is give a virgin to a bastard, not show a couple engaging in a proper BDSM relationship.

Pretty much, even people I know who are into that whole thing think the relationship depicted in the book is abusive and a complete misrepresentation of their lifestyle.

marshbaboon

Would have been better if it had pictures tbh. Too many words.

Fenian Army

pimbeche wrote: »

oh why has another thread been created about this - the book is just shoite ok :rolleyes:

why is everyone up in arms about it ?

If you really dont care then why post about it ?

My point was that men feel emasculated because their women are swatting them away as they would rather read a badly written erotic novel . Just like women have felt when their men watch porn.

For gods sake the book is not that bad to be making these kinds of waves . Theres been worse !!!!!!

Rather watch porn than have sex?


wut?

Sunnyisland

I don't see the problem with any adults reading this book and I don't understand the big deal about it.

stovelid

Interesting proposition that quite badly-written pornographic literature should be immune from male criticism because it's produced for (and consumed by) women.

Would that make criticism of any pornography aimed at men off-limits to female criticism?

Fenian Army

Yakult wrote: »

I am 12 and what is 50 shades of grey?

Dont see the big deal myself

longhalloween

Why would you feel emasculated by it. Embrace it!

*rushes out to buy duct tape, cable ties and a riding crop*

pimbeche

I think some women are ashamed to say they liked it to be honest - and bottom line is I think men are uncomfortable with their OH's fantasising about and enjoying the male character in the book.

Im not saying that about all men or all women so dont be twisting words....

Im also saying that behind the facade of this free and modern society , things are still pretty backwards when it comes to sex.

As I said I think men have a problem with the sucess of this book.

Bad Panda

pimbeche wrote: »

Has anyone noticed that bar a handful of women , the bad reviews / outpouring of disaprovals for this book are mainly coming from men ?

Even looking at threads that have been started on boards , the majority of the slating is being done by men....

Just like porn has always been considered a guys thing , it seems that this book is turning into a womens thing.

While I dont love the book , I dont hate it either and Im beginning to think that maybe there is some jealousy coming from the guys that women have something of their own.

Am I the only one who has noticed this or what ?

Also, 'jealousy' etc is always mentioned in such cases to argue the reason why men don't like this stuff...usually by women trying to feel empowered.

Edit: Not all men are as secure as the fellows of AH!

ibarelycare

Most of the scathing reviews I hear are from women, me included.

Sea Filly wrote: »

Completely misunderstanding the appeal of S & M there! This book does it no justice either, BTW.

The main problem with the book isn't the S & M aspect (although the author only seems to have very vague understandings of that world), it's the abusive, controlling relationship (not in the sexual way). There are also dozens of other problems with the book and its writing, characters, plot (or lack thereof) but I'd be here all day!

ibarelycare

pimbeche wrote: »

Theres been worse !!!!!!

There really, really hasn't. This book is worse than genocide.

Jaxxy

pimbeche wrote: »

I think some women are ashamed to say they liked it to be honest - and bottom line is I think men are uncomfortable with their OH's fantasising about and enjoying the male character in the book.

Im not saying that about all men or all women so dont be twisting words....

Im also saying that behind the facade of this free and modern society , things are still pretty backwards when it comes to sex.

As I said I think men have a problem with the sucess of this book.

Personally I think you're being unfair to men.

stovelid

pimbeche wrote: »

As I said I think men have a problem with the sucess of this book.

I get the feeling that this sentence is missing a strategic 'some', somehow.

laugh

The more birds that want a good spanking the better!

minidazzler

ibarelycare wrote: »

There really, really hasn't. This book is worse than genocide.

Twilight, though it's a similar premise, World revolving around the boy.

ibarelycare

minidazzler wrote: »

Twilight, though it's a similar premise, World revolving around the boy.

I've read the Twilight books and yes, they're awful, but honestly 50 Shades is a hundred times worse.

FatherLen

to be honest i don't really care what the book is about. i know the general premise of it and it's all i care to know but i have read an excerpt from it and that's where my distaste spawns. It may be the worst written piece of garbage i have ever read. it reads like a children's book with adult themes and any real fan of any genre of literature will tell you the same.

GLaDOS

pimbeche wrote: »

As I said I think men have a problem with the sucess of this book.

I haven't read it but if my girlfriend enjoyed it it wouldn't bother me, more power to her.

I think the main problem people have (men and women), is that a poorly written book is doing so well (Well supposedly, haven't read it myself). Similar to the success of Twilight.

--Kaiser--

ScienceNerd wrote: »

I haven't read it but if my girlfriend enjoyed it it wouldn't bother me, more power to her.

I think the main problem people have (men and women), is that a poorly written book is doing so well (Well supposedly, haven't read it myself). Similar to the success of Twilight.

That's my problem with it and similarly popular, appallingly written books. If I see anyone reading Dan Brown I get violent urges

Sea Filly

Bad Panda wrote: »

Also, 'jealousy' etc is always mentioned in such cases to argue the reason why men don't like this stuff...usually by women trying to feel empowered.

Edit: Not all men are as secure as the fellows of AH!

TBH, men are handy enough at throwing the jealousy accusation at women too, usually if an attractive female is the focus of the criticism (even the criticism isn't looks-related.).

Sea Filly

ibarelycare wrote: »

The main problem with the book isn't the S & M aspect (although the author only seems to have very vague understandings of that world), it's the abusive, controlling relationship (not in the sexual way). There are also dozens of other problems with the book and its writing, characters, plot (or lack thereof) but I'd be here all day!

Yes I agree on all counts. Esp that the author hasn't a clue what s and m is all about.

28064212

pimbeche wrote: »

As I said I think men have a problem with the sucess of this book.

Except, a point which has been made in every second post on this thread, the vast majority of complaints about the book have come from women (which is no surprise, many more women have read it than men). The central point on which your hypothesis rests is complete nonsense

pimbeche

well not really , just because someone posted and said that most of the bad reviews he had heard of were from women , doesnt mean that the majority of bad reviews do in fact come from women

And as I said , a lot of women will be too ashamed to say they liked it .

The Master

The Fifty Shades trilogy was developed from a Twilight fan fiction originally titled Master of the Universe

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28064212

pimbeche wrote: »

well not really , just because someone posted and said that most of the bad reviews he had heard of were from women , doesnt mean that the majority of bad reviews do in fact come from women

Just because your post started with the assertion that the bad reviews are mainly coming from men doesn't make it true either.

pimbeche wrote: »

And as I said , a lot of women will be too ashamed to say they liked it .

Another assertion with an extremely tenuous grasp on reality. The whole furore around this book is precisely because it is so openly liked by women

Bad Panda

Sea Filly wrote: »

TBH, men are handy enough at throwing the jealousy accusation at women too, usually if an attractive female is the focus of the criticism (even the criticism isn't looks-related.).

Honestly, I don't recall the jealousy accusation by men on here, but I'm sure it happens too.

My point is that when it comes to sex/looks related it's usually women throwing it around to feel somewhat empowered.