Petty Inter-County Rivalry

oldyouth

In hindsight Duckworth, I can't really argue with those points, except to say that the address/postcode aspect refers to the snobbery of the people who live in those areas, who are not necessarily Dubs.

dirtyden

oldyouth wrote: »

In hindsight Duckworth, I can't really argue with those points, except to say that the address/postcode aspect refers to the snobbery of the people who live in those areas, who are not necessarily Dubs.

Just back down, you have embarrassed yourself enough.

c_man

bluecode wrote: »

You're from Dublin like me, JupiterKid. Hence your puzzlement. Growing up in Dublin I saw myself as Irish first and foremost. Being a Dub came a faraway second if I even considered it. It wasn't until I ventured out beyond the Pale did I discover I'd mysteriously turned into Dub first and thus worthy of abuse or just slagging. Nearly everyone likes to slag off Dublin. But most Dub could honestly give a feck about their parochial attitudes.

It isn't just counties, it's towns, parishes, villages even townlands. Partly it's the blame of the GAA because it thrives on rivalries. But mainly it's basically the remnants of tribalism which the GAA merely reflects. The reason we were such an easy conquest for the English.

It's pathetic and it has held back the development of this country for years. Local politics dominate the minds of most politicians in Ireland. Any politician who puts the needs of the country first and foremost won't last long in the Dail.

The only way this country can progress properly is for people to be Irish first and foremost.

Yeah we should be more comsopolitian and outward looking like in Britain. Can you imagine someone from London getting a hard time/some slagging in another part of England on that basis? Luckily they don't have widespread infiltration of that nasty GAA which would no doubt seek to stir up hatred between all and sundry for some reason.

c_man

oldyouth wrote: »

BTW, I would be eternally grateful if somebody could explain the "Up" in the often shouted Up Wexford/Kerry/Down/Galway etc

How long have you been trying to figure it out? Serious.

carlmango11

Regarding the Bray/Dublin thing: I think it's not massively wrong or incorrect to call someone from Bray a Dubliner.

Disregarding the Co. Dublin borders (which don't actually officially exist anymore if I'm not mistaken) the city of Dublin (to which the term Dubliner refers) has been growing for the last 1000 years. Towns have been long since swallowed by the conurbation.

I'm sure some decades ago they were having the same squabble over Raheny-folk being called Dubs or more recently I'd imagine Swords-folk.

I'm sure someone from Greenwich would be a bit confused if you told them they weren't a Londoner.

Cú Giobach

carlmango11 wrote: »

Disregarding the Co. Dublin borders (which don't actually officially exist anymore if I'm not mistaken) the city of Dublin (to which the term Dubliner refers) has been growing for the last 1000 years..

That would be odd surely, because then all the counties bordering Dublin would have to be the same and the counties bordering them ....etc etc...... Fook, Cork doesn't exist!!!!!! :eek:.
Meath or Wickla has to end somewhere, know what I mean?

Sunnyisland

c_man wrote: »

Yeah we should be more cosmopolitan and outward looking like in Britain. Can you imagine someone from London getting a hard time/some slagging in another part of England on that basis? Luckily they don't have widespread infiltration of that nasty GAA which would no doubt seek to stir up hatred between all and sundry for some reason.

Your mistaken if you think this small county rivalry doesn't go on in England,also you think londoners don't get slagged or put down when there in the north of England or visa Vera What about the geordie people and sunderland and its certainly not all to do with soccer.This sort of carry on goes on right across Europe in all the towns and villages.

c_man

realies wrote: »

Your mistaken if you think this small county rivalry doesn't go on in England,also you think londoners don't get slagged or put down when there in the north of England or visa Vera What about the geordie people and sunderland and its certainly not all to do with soccer.This sort of carry on goes on right across Europe in all the towns and villages.

*ahem*

Sunnyisland

c_man wrote: »

*ahem*

You coffed,excuse you.

Sunnyisland

c_man wrote: »

*ahem*

realies wrote: »

You coffed,excuse you.

:oRight bit slow sometimes :o

JupiterKid

Has anyone got some examples where inter-village, inter-parish, inter-county rivalry is pretty bitter and entrenched or is it all just a laugh?

Chucken

JupiterKid wrote: »

Has anyone got some examples where inter-village, inter-parish, inter-county rivalry is pretty bitter and entrenched or is it all just a laugh?

Well you were on that boat!!

Tell us where you were talking about?

Or was it all a big trolly story?

Mount Misery in Waterford is interesting enough.

http://www.munster-express.ie/local-news/paint-rivalry-on-mount-misery-%E2%80%98flagstone%E2%80%99-set-to-continue/

The ‘paint war’ between Waterford and Kilkenny hurling fans for the ‘flag stone’ on Mount Misery took an unsavoury turn last weekend, when a suspected third party embarked on a spot of defacing.



The latest Waterford flag to be painted on the rock, as exclusively reported in last Friday’s Weekender Edition, has been replaced by a rather crude depiction of manhood.

Answering the call to respond to last Friday’s story, a member of the Kilkenny painting crew claimed that even die-hard Deise fans would prefer the black and amber flag to the current ‘artwork’ on display.

“It might be a bit funny for some people, but it’s not a particularly nice thing to have everyone looking at,” said ‘Charlie’, who didn’t reveal his true identity during a Monday morning phone call. “It’s rude, let’s cut to the chase on it.”

In response to claims made by Deise fan ‘Tom’ that the Waterford painting job was “only a bit of fun”, Charlie queried Tom’s integrity over the ‘battle for Mount Misery’.

“There’s plenty of space there for two flags to be painted,” said Charlie. “But when the Waterford lads decided to paint over a Kilkenny flag that had been there for years, a few of us on this side of the Suir didn’t see anything fun about it.

*Edit

This is not "petty" either. It's serious fu­cking business.

JupiterKid

Nope - it's certainly not a story. I don't want to disclose the location so as not to embarrass the denizens of these two villages.

anirishlad

JupiterKid wrote: »

Nope - it's certainly not a story. I don't want to disclose the location so as not to embarrass the denizens of these two villages.

It was roscommon and leitrim though wasnt it?

mathepac

JupiterKid wrote: »

Nope - it's certainly not a story. I don't want to disclose the location so as not to embarrass the denizens of these two villages.

Tell the truth, the Tipp lads gave you some advice then took you up to the Graves of the Leinstermen and showed you what happened to recalcitrant tourists and football hooligans.

Scary, huh?

Grimebox

Since when is it normal for a person from Dublin to be called a Dub? People from Galway aren't called Gal's, Kilkenny folk aren't known as Kil's, Kerry natives aren't referred to as Ker's etc

Although I am in favour of people from Limerick being called Limes.

BigBraveBear

There's nothing strange or pathetic about a rivalry between two rival teams supporters, especially two local teams. This rivalry can often appear in people with only a passing interest in the sport, or none at all, and is part of the local banter.
Sports rivalry and local rivalry isn't unique to Ireland!! Some posters around here seem to think that everything they percieve to be negative, is exclusive to Ireland.
Something that is much mores strange to me is the fierce rivalry and bitterness between Irish supporters of English sports teams, which they have no real connection to! Whats that all about?

Cú Giobach

BigBraveBear wrote: »

Sports rivalry and local rivalry isn't unique to Ireland!! Some posters around here seem to think that everything they percieve to be negative, is exclusive to Ireland.

Always the way :rolleyes:
I guess some people just don't know much about the rest of the world.

Maybe they should check out the rivalry between Canadian hockey teams :eek:, or European soccer clubs.
Surely they can't be unaware of the actual blood-letting that can occur between English soccer fans, yet they go on about a "bit of banter" between rival GAA folks.