Car dealer going back on his word, need some advice

Anan1

Petey89 wrote: »

mechanic just rang me the starter is gone an needs to be reconditioned an he also has to put in a new egnition bar could end up costing 500 depending on the condition of the starter.

The car wouldn't have died from a bad starter motor when it was running. What does he mean by an ignition bar?

Petey89

Anan1 wrote: »

The car wouldn't have died from a bad starter motor when it was running. What does he mean by an ignition bar?

ignition barrel i ment to say, thats what my mechanic says is the problem that the faulty ignition stayed on an burned out the starter motor. i dont know much about cars really so i was just going along with what he says

Anan1

Petey89 wrote: »

ignition barrel i ment to say, thats what my mechanic says is the problem that the faulty ignition stayed on an burned out the starter motor. i dont know much about cars really so i was just going along with what he says

Well to look on the bright side, it could have been an awful lot worse. That price of €500 sounds very high to me - if you're going to fix it yourself then i'd advise finding a good local auto electrician and getting a quote from them first.

Petey89

Anan1 wrote: »

Well to look on the bright side, it could have been an awful lot worse. That price of €500 sounds very high to me - if you're going to fix it yourself then i'd advise finding a good local auto electrician and getting a quote from them first.

yeah it could have been worse alright, i thought it was high aswel but that is just a rough price at the min he has to take out the starter an see how bad it is could cost alot less, labour costs and the cost of finding out what was wrong are included. hopefuly its not too bad an it shouldnt cost more than 300

Anan1

Petey89 wrote: »

yeah it could have been worse alright, i thought it was high aswel but that is just a rough price at the min he has to take out the starter an see how bad it is could cost alot less, labour costs and the cost of finding out what was wrong are included. hopefuly its not too bad an it shouldnt cost more than 300

In my experience, mechanics are always a bit slower and dearer with electrical problems than auto electricians. An exchange starter motor should be easily available, and it shouldn't cost the earth - I can't see the mechanic rebuilding it himself.

Berty

Ah well, for that price of a fix, then small claims court is the way to go. Normally a dealer, if they guy is a proper dealer, will back off straight away.

Petey89

Anan1 wrote: »

In my experience, mechanics are always a bit slower and dearer with electrical problems than auto electricians. An exchange starter motor should be easily available, and it shouldn't cost the earth - I can't see the mechanic rebuilding it himself.

i think he does specialise in electrical probs its on his card, he is just the garage i broke down near. any other garage iv tried have all tried to rob me so im just guna get it fixed with him an hopefuly get the money back in small claim court.

Petey89

Beer Baron wrote: »

Ah well, for that price of a fix, then small claims court is the way to go. Normally a dealer, if they guy is a proper dealer, will back off straight away.

yeah when i get the receipts for the repairs im guna take it to small claims court. citizens information siad i would have a very good chance against him so hopefuly i get the money back, and he probably doesnt want to go to court over it so he could just pay when he realises i wasnt bluffing about taking him to court.

delthedriver

Sadly you are the person who is losing your life over this.
If the problem can be rectified economically , get on with it and chalk the matter down to experience.
The process of bringing the garage to court could be a very long possibly expensive exercise.
Like every business there are honest player and shady ones, sadly the Motor trade has quite a few shady cowboys.
Nonetheless do you need the stress of this problem ie. arguing with a potential cowboy , who may or may be in business next week.
Get on with the repairs if you can and enjoy life.
This may not be the advice you want to here in dealing with your garage, sometimes in life , it is better to move on!
Sincerest best wishes

delthedriver

Sadly you are the person who is losing your life over this.
If the problem can be rectified economically , get on with it and chalk the matter down to experience.
The process of bringing the garage to court could be a very long possibly expensive exercise.
Like every business there are honest player and shady ones, sadly the Motor trade has quite a few shady cowboys.
Nonetheless do you need the stress of this problem ie. arguing with a potential cowboy , who may or may be in business next week.
Get on with the repairs if you can and enjoy life.
This may not be the advice you want to here in dealing with your garage, sometimes in life , it is better to move on!
Sincerest best wishes

Petey89

delthedriver wrote: »

Sadly you are the person who is losing your life over this.
If the problem can be rectified economically , get on with it and chalk the matter down to experience.
The process of bringing the garage to court could be a very long possibly expensive exercise.
Like every business there are honest player and shady ones, sadly the Motor trade has quite a few shady cowboys.
Nonetheless do you need the stress of this problem ie. arguing with a potential cowboy , who may or may be in business next week.
Get on with the repairs if you can and enjoy life.
This may not be the advice you want to here in dealing with your garage, sometimes in life , it is better to move on!
Sincerest best wishes

thanks for the advice but it only costs 25 euro to take out a small claims case i dont need a solicitor an the court does the work if he disputes it i just have to show up in court with my witness an say my side of the story not guna cost me much, an if i do end up having to pay out 500 for the repairs i want that money back i cant afford not to get it back.

delthedriver

Delighted to hear your case falls within the Small Claims Court.
Please keep us posted on developments. Best of luck.
Hopefully we will hear a positive result.
It would be nice to hear that some shady car dealer gets what is due to him!
Shady dealers on Done Deal and Boards take note.

goz83

delthedriver wrote: »

Sadly you are the person who is losing your life over this.
If the problem can be rectified economically , get on with it and chalk the matter down to experience.
The process of bringing the garage to court could be a very long possibly expensive exercise.
Like every business there are honest player and shady ones, sadly the Motor trade has quite a few shady cowboys.
Nonetheless do you need the stress of this problem ie. arguing with a potential cowboy , who may or may be in business next week.
Get on with the repairs if you can and enjoy life.
This may not be the advice you want to here in dealing with your garage, sometimes in life , it is better to move on!
Sincerest best wishes

I have to agree with the OP. Small claims all they way, if only to send a message to this cowboy. Some things are not worth fighting, but this is not one of those things. If it were me, i would take a poo on his car. Well...not really...but...I would not let it go.

Petey89

delthedriver wrote: »

Delighted to hear your case falls within the Small Claims Court.
Please keep us posted on developments. Best of luck.
Hopefully we will hear a positive result.
It would be nice to hear that some shady car dealer gets what is due to him!
Shady dealers on Done Deal and Boards take note.

thanks yes i will post when the case goes through i have to wait to get receipts an a report on the repairs so it will be next week when i put it through, he will get what he deserves

delthedriver

Perhaps the garage in question is following this post. maybe he would like to deal with your situation more professionally before he gets named and shamed in Court!
I guess if a judgment is made against him it will be a matter of public record?
Dodgy dealers watch out!

goz83

You'd be surprised how damaging these things can be to a business. An unfair dismissal case against me a few years ago caused a very large tile and bathroom company to close its flagship branch. Once it goes on record, the information filters down to everyone and it's a very sticky thing to live down. A small claims public record would be worse in this case for the dealer. Would not be surprising to a name change. Would love to know what dealership it is though.

Petey89

goz83 wrote: »

You'd be surprised how damaging these things can be to a business. An unfair dismissal case against me a few years ago caused a very large tile and bathroom company to close its flagship branch. Once it goes on record, the information filters down to everyone and it's a very sticky thing to live down. A small claims public record would be worse in this case for the dealer. Would not be surprising to a name change. Would love to know what dealership it is though.

I hope it does damage his business he deseveres it people like him think they can get away with these things. I will name the dealer on this post after all legal proceedings are finished to make sure no one goes near his dealership.

delthedriver

Petey89 wrote: »

I hope it does damage his business he deseveres it people like him think they can get away with these things. I will name the dealer on this post after all legal proceedings are finished to make sure no one goes near his dealership.

There really should be a Rogue Traders Gallery like on BBC 1, obviously with current funding issues in RTE , it should be on Boards instead.

Best Wishes

Esel

Wear a guna to court.

delthedriver

Esel wrote: »

Wear a guna to court.

Any update on this case?

delthedriver

delthedriver wrote: »

Any update on this case?

Forgot to ask does the car have a DL reg?

bazz26

delthedriver wrote: »

Forgot to ask does the car have a DL reg?

What does the county of the car's reg have to do with the OP's situation?

Esel

bazz26 wrote: »

What does the county of the car's reg have to do with the OP's situation?

DTD asked about a particular county, which has been mentioned in a negative way on numerous occasions in this forum...
....

delthedriver

Merely asking a question!

delthedriver

Any update?

delthedriver

Petey89 wrote: »

I hope it does damage his business he deseveres it people like him think they can get away with these things. I will name the dealer on this post after all legal proceedings are finished to make sure no one goes near his dealership.

Any update on this?

delthedriver

delthedriver wrote: »

Any update on this?

Was this issue ever resolved?

goz83

lock thread?

delthedriver

goz83 wrote: »

lock thread?

Would like to know whether or not Op. was properly looked after.

Shane Fitz

delthedriver wrote: »

goz83 wrote: »

lock thread?

Would like to know whether or not Op. was properly looked after.

Well then maybe, oh I don't know?? PM him!!!! And the OP of the other thread too

Petey89

hey sorry i haven't been on this in a while, its gone to small claims its taking a while because the guy that deals with the small claims was on holidays but hopefully it is going to be dealt with next week

delthedriver

Petey89 wrote: »

hey sorry i haven't been on this in a while, its gone to small claims its taking a while because the guy that deals with the small claims was on holidays but hopefully it is going to be dealt with next week

Peter, was your case ever resolved?

Petey89

delthedriver wrote: »

Peter, was your case ever resolved?

its still going through small claims, the case had to go through again because the business wasnt in his name so I had to find the owner, but i found him and now the claim has gone in against him. Iv been in contact with the court and they are trying to get it sorted as soon as they can.

delthedriver

Petey89 wrote: »

its still going through small claims, the case had to go through again because the business wasnt in his name so I had to find the owner, but i found him and now the claim has gone in against him. Iv been in contact with the court and they are trying to get it sorted as soon as they can.

Peter,
Glad to hear you are making progress. It is a shame the trader could not sort out the issue. Sadly it makes life difficult for the genuine guy who is doing things right. Keep up the good work and keep us posted. Best wishes,

Petey89

delthedriver wrote: »

Peter,
Glad to hear you are making progress. It is a shame the trader could not sort out the issue. Sadly it makes life difficult for the genuine guy who is doing things right. Keep up the good work and keep us posted. Best wishes,

just got an email today, the owner of the garage has be now been notified of the claim just waiting for his response now, he either pays up or it goes to court. hopefuly he will use his brain and just pay me because going to court really isnt going to go in his favour

Markcheese

My wife went to small claims court years ago.. She got advice from a friend who was a solicitor , main piece was frame all your questions so that you get a yes or no answer, don't give the guy chance to sidetrack you and you control the line of questioning...

delthedriver

Petey89 wrote: »

just got an email today, the owner of the garage has be now been notified of the claim just waiting for his response now, he either pays up or it goes to court. hopefuly he will use his brain and just pay me because going to court really isnt going to go in his favour

Peter, any update?

bazz26

Why not drop the guy a PM rather than bumping these threads every few weeks?

Esel

Because other users are interested?

delthedriver

bazz26 wrote: »

Why not drop the guy a PM rather than bumping these threads every few weeks?

A lot of users are interested. If you have no interest you have option of not contributing. Simples eh?

bazz26

lol, back in your pram lad.

delthedriver

bazz26 wrote: »

lol, back in your pram lad.

Are you not remotely interested in seeing the Op get justice, it would appear quite a few people are? Also who is the shady dealer?
I note the alleged Motor dealer is in your neck of the woods, would expect that you may be interested in the outcome so you may avoid being given the runaround like Op!

Petey89

still no update yet was told it could take a few weeks so just have to wait an see how it goes. I hope it will be sorted before christmas.

carefull now!

Petey89 wrote: »

still no update yet was told it could take a few weeks so just have to wait an see how it goes. I hope it will be sorted before christmas.

Hope this goes well for you and you get sorted, just wondered about those saying name and shame the seller, is it legal to name companys as bad or fraudulent online, I vaguely remember something about a site being shut down for it before. Anybody know for sure? It would be a thread to start

Petey89

carefull now! wrote: »

Hope this goes well for you and you get sorted, just wondered about those saying name and shame the seller, is it legal to name companys as bad or fraudulent online, I vaguely remember something about a site being shut down for it before. Anybody know for sure? It would be a thread to start

Its not going so good at the min, the court got there post back from the garage saying "gates locked no letter box" so now i could have to get a judge to let them serve it another way besides registered post. its just not going well at the min.
I know a lot of people want to name and shame dont think it is illegal to say where i bought it and what they did, it would just be like a review of the place really.

Petey89

not naming and shaming here just letting people know where I bought the car and what happened.
I bought it in<snip> just outside limerick city. He is still trading and still offering warranties on his cars on his donedeal adverts Im not saying you shouldnt buy a car from here but if you do you better make sure you get everything in writing and get a mechanic to look at it. After I bought mine I found out that most things on the add was not true. He failed to stand by the warranty after the car broke down 6 weeks after I bought it.
I also found out the car was never serviced when I was told by the sales man that it was, after I paid 2000 for the car its cost me a futher 700 or more on repairs and servicing.
Buyer Beware!!

delthedriver

Petey89 wrote: »

not naming and shaming here just letting people know where I bought the car and what happened.
I bought it in<snip> just outside limerick city. He is still trading and still offering warranties on his cars on his donedeal adverts Im not saying you shouldnt buy a car from here but if you do you better make sure you get everything in writing and get a mechanic to look at it. After I bought mine I found out that most things on the add was not true. He failed to stand by the warranty after the car broke down 6 weeks after I bought it.
I also found out the car was never serviced when I was told by the sales man that it was, after I paid 2000 for the car its cost me a futher 700 or more on repairs and servicing.
Buyer Beware!!

Sorry to hear that progress has been stalled. With the gates locked , is there a chance he has gone out of business? The cars he is selling on Done Deal, are they from his business premises or home address. Perhaps the papers could be served to him at his home address. Stay focused, do not let him off the hook.
Best Regards

Petey89

delthedriver wrote: »

Sorry to hear that progress has been stalled. With the gates locked , is there a chance he has gone out of business? The cars he is selling on Done Deal, are they from his business premises or home address. Perhaps the papers could be served to him at his home address. Stay focused, do not let him off the hook.
Best Regards

he is still trading from his business premises, its not his home address i dunno how to get that, im guna try and keep it going the courts are being very helpful, so hopefuly i will get something back.

delthedriver

Petey89 wrote: »

he is still trading from his business premises, its not his home address i dunno how to get that, im guna try and keep it going the courts are being very helpful, so hopefuly i will get something back.

Any news?

Pottler

delthedriver wrote: »

Any news?

Yeah, here's some, it's a 2k car and it needed €700 servicing and repairs. Pretty run of the mill and the Central Bank have not had to kick off quantative easing as a result. FFS, I've bought 6k yokes that needed more. A good wipe-out on an electric wing mirror could lead to a bigger bill. Big thread, courts, war, over €700. Four decent tyres run to more ffs. Much ado about nothing IMO.