Ireland u20 2013 6 nations and junior world cup

amtw

Glass Prison 1214 wrote: »

Bummer, i was looking forward to him tearing it up in the scrums.

If you're that interested he is starting in the front row for Leinster A against Connaught tomorrow. Don't know if it is streamed anywhere, I've put out a message looking for a link but haven't had a reply yet, I'll pass it on if I get one.

ormond lad

amtw wrote: »

If you're that interested he is starting in the front row for Leinster A against Connaught tomorrow. Don't know if it is streamed anywhere, I've put out a message looking for a link but haven't had a reply yet, I'll pass it on if I get one.

Game wont be streamed. Highlights may be up on connacht/leinster websites next week. Best chances are updates on twitter
As this is the 20s thread it will be very interesting to see how those still underage for the 20s get on
Good number in the Leinster squad are eligible for 20s: Byrne, O Loughlin, Masterson, McFarland, Delahunt

bamboozle

Glass Prison 1214 wrote: »

Is Tadhg Furlong not eligible this year? i thought he was still young enough.

Furlong turns 20 this month.

What about Eoghan Masterson at no. 8, Leinster seem to have had him involved in a few A squads so he must have something going.

Thought Jack O'Donoghue the waterpark no. 8 was the best thing since sliced bread - did munster already give him a dev contract?

bilston

Hype710 wrote: »

Can't see Henshaw being released by Connacht. If Gerry Sexton is starting for St Mary's in the AIL he must be in with a shout.

If Henshaw is first choice at Connacht then you have to wonder whether he should be playing U20 rugby anyway? Isn't the point of the U20s to develop players for the pro game? That's why I had no issues with Jackson not playing in the JWC in the summer. It was the same with Luke Fitzgerald a few years back too. It also means someone else gets a chance which helps broaden the player pool.

ormond lad

bamboozle wrote: »

Furlong turns 20 this month.

What about Eoghan Masterson at no. 8, Leinster seem to have had him involved in a few A squads so he must have something going.

Thought Jack O'Donoghue the waterpark no. 8 was the best thing since sliced bread - did munster already give him a dev contract?

Masterson could poten be involved at 8.
JOD is in munsters academy and is in the irish 19s squad after starting for munster 20s in the interpros. He could easily get involved with 20s depending on injurys etc

ormond lad

Hasnt been much news on these squads(and 18s/19s) compared to previous years where theyve been announced around this time in december the past year or two.
Dates, venues and kickoff times for the 20s games against Leinster and Ulster i mentioned above are now available
The 20s play a Leinster A side in Donnybrook this thursday at 12.30pm and they play Ulster A in Merrion Road saturday the 29th at 2pm.
20s will be in camp for 5 of the 10 days between the 20th and 29th according to the schedule that was posted on munsterschools website a few months back
The Munster website in the academy updates has been good for providing some info on how the munster players who are in the set up are getting on. Nothing available from the other provinces

yougottagoboy

ormond lad wrote: »

Hasnt been much news on these squads(and 18s/19s) compared to previous years where theyve been announced around this time in december the past year or two.
Dates, venues and kickoff times for the 20s games against Leinster and Ulster i mentioned above are now available
The 20s play a Leinster A side in Donnybrook this thursday at 12.30pm and they play Ulster A in Merrion Road saturday the 29th at 2pm.
20s will be in camp for 5 of the 10 days between the 20th and 29th according to the schedule that was posted on munsterschools website a few months back
The Munster website in the academy updates has been good for providing some info on how the munster players who are in the set up are getting on. Nothing available from the other provinces

dang I was going to announce that..beat me to it

yougottagoboy

Hagz wrote: »

1. Ed Byrne
2. Bryan Byrne
3. Jamie Dever
4. Ultan Dillane
5. Gavin Thornbury
6. Conor Joyce
7. Dan Leavy
8. (have no idea Peadar Timmons/Sean O'Brien/Jack O'Donoghue etc)
9. Luke McGrath
10. Stuart Olding
11. Max McFarland
12. Thomas Daly
13. Robbie Henshaw
14. Rory Scholes
15. Adam Byrne

16. ? Will Foley
17. ?
18. Chris Taylor
19. Sean McCarthy
20. Josh Van der Flier or one of the names I've listed at 8
21. Brian haugh
22. Tom Kiersey
23. ?

good few of those lads aren't in the squad at the moment

JustinDee

ormond lad wrote: »

The 20s play a Leinster A side in Donnybrook this thursday at 12.30pm

They're more a Leinster Development side, than Leinster A per se.

yougottagoboy

JustinDee wrote: »

They're more a Leinster Development side, than Leinster A per se.

Officially yes,good few Leinster A players in the backline

decisions

Will my season ticket get me in?

P.Walnuts

When does the first u20 6 nations game start? Week before the seniors or the same week?

bilston

P.Walnuts wrote: »

When does the first u20 6 nations game start? Week before the seniors or the same week?

It will be the same weekend as the seniors. Probably the Friday night although since we're away to Wales it may not be the Friday.

P.Walnuts

bilston wrote: »

It will be the same weekend as the seniors. Probably the Friday night although since we're away to Wales it may not be the Friday.

Cheers.

Out of interest how many from last years team would be involved would you say?

I hear Chris Farrell has a bad knee injury so I presume even though he is underage, he wont have recovered in time.

Hagz

Josh Van der Flier
Stuart Olding
Luke McGrath

Chris Farrell won't be back till the start of pre-season.

Tox56

Hagz wrote: »

Josh Van der Flier
Stuart Olding
Luke McGrath

Chris Farrell won't be back till the start of pre-season.

Don't suppose there is any chance that Henshaw will be involved now that he is starting regularly for Connacht? Could have a very decent backline if he did play

Hagz

Tox56 wrote: »

Don't suppose there is any chance that Henshaw will be involved now that he is starting regularly for Connacht? Could have a very decent backline if he did play

On the one hand, I'd love to see the back-line in action if he were involved. If Farrell were fit and Henshaw was included, this years back-line could've been the best yet.

But on the other hand, there's no need for Henshaw to take part, just like there was no need for Jackson to take part in the JWC last season. The opportunity might be better spent on someone else.

In saying that, I have no idea what will happen, we'll have to wait and see.

Hagz

9. Luke McGrath
10. Stuart Olding
11. Max McFarland
12. Chris Farrell
13. Robbie Henshaw
14. Adam Byrne
15. Rory Scholes


God that would be insane.

yougottagoboy

decisions wrote: »

Will my season ticket get me in?

yeah should do

Hagz wrote: »

9. Luke McGrath
10. Stuart Olding
11. Max McFarland
12. Chris Farrell
13. Robbie Henshaw
14. Adam Byrne
15. Rory Scholes


God that would be insane.

mcfarland isnt involved at the moment,absolute joke

Hagz

yougottagoboy wrote: »

mcfarland isnt involved at the moment,absolute joke

Are you sure the squad isn't just at a preliminary stage and that there aren't more players to be added. It seems mental to me that McFarland wouldn't be in the starting XV.

irishbucsfan

The squad at this time of the year often seems to be quite odd at times

FatFosi12

McFarland, Byrne and Van Der Flier have all played AIL this year so far for Trinity and UCD respectively so I'd expect all 3 of them to be in with a shout come crunch time.

FatFosi12

I've been to see a few UCD JP Fanagan matches this year in the Bowl and a player that has stood out massively for me is Andrew Murphy. Playing at 7, top operator, team isn't weakened in the slightest by JVDF's absence. I think he should certainly be involved in the set up this year.

yougottagoboy

Hagz wrote: »

Are you sure the squad isn't just at a preliminary stage and that there aren't more players to be added. It seems mental to me that McFarland wouldn't be in the starting XV.

Yeah it's still preliminary but the 6 nations is nearing,and as I've said while Ruddock is a great coach I question some of his selection policies,tends to just favour the big lads. as far as I know don't think McGrath is playing 20s this year either

FatFosi12 wrote: »

I've been to see a few UCD JP Fanagan matches this year in the Bowl and a player that has stood out massively for me is Andrew Murphy. Playing at 7, top operator, team isn't weakened in the slightest by JVDF's absence. I think he should certainly be involved in the set up this year.

I agree Fosi absoultely top quality player,his performances to date definetly warrant a place in the squad. Few players in the country at 20s level who match his agression and intensity

bilston

yougottagoboy wrote: »

as far as I know don't think McGrath is playing 20s this year either

Luke McGrath??

yougottagoboy

bilston wrote: »

Luke McGrath??

the very same

Hagz

yougottagoboy wrote: »

as far as I know don't think McGrath is playing 20s this year either

That's one of those things where I'll have to see it to believe it.

yougottagoboy

Hagz wrote: »

That's one of those things where I'll have to see it to believe it.

he's playing for Leinster Development tomorrow afaik

ormond lad

yougottagoboy wrote: »

he's playing for Leinster Development tomorrow afaik

Some Leinster players u/age for 20s could play for Leinster to give irish management more chances to play other squad players. iirc thats happened in games like this in previous years

yougottagoboy

ormond lad wrote: »

Some Leinster players u/age for 20s could play for Leinster to give irish management more chances to play other squad players. iirc thats happened in games like this in previous years

potentially Ormond lad indeed.

Hype710

Anyone have the teams for the U20/Leinster game?

yougottagoboy

Hype710 wrote: »

Anyone have the teams for the U20/Leinster game?

leinster won 28 19 with a good performance. Ireland don't look great,seriously lack penetration

yougottagoboy

leinster line up was
Fitzpatrick
McFarland
some aussie lad from tullow
coghlan
Kavanagh
marsh
McGrath
tracy
byrne
furlong
sexton
timmins
lawler
gilsenan
conan

JustinDee

yougottagoboy wrote: »

leinster won 28 19 with a good performance. Ireland don't look great,seriously lack penetration

The U20s have been together for just two days. They fared better in second half against a Leinster development squad made up of older more familiar and experienced players.

yougottagoboy

they've had a few camps at this stage. The Leinster team was a mixture of u20s and lads still u21 so they weren't that much older,and some of them have never even met each other let alone played together

Hagz

Not really a fair game to judge the u20 side off though is it? Considering the Leinster side contained some players who will be key to the u20s this year.

yougottagoboy

Hagz wrote: »

Not really a fair game to judge the u20 side off though is it? Considering the Leinster side contained some players who will be key to the u20s this year.

players who I don't think are playing

Hype710

Photos of the Leinster game are up on inpho.ie. There's a Thomas Harty playing for Ireland here: http://www.inpho.ie/media/qkxGmrVcA9Vb4IrDzRhgyQ..a?ts=voXkU3N4eGu0G2OcMbDj8z6k4N8hx9h7YPBh59RDeTE.a

A quick Google search shows he's represented England at previous underage level and has represented the Sale Jets, Sale's reserve side, this season.

yougottagoboy

6 or so exiles in the starting 15,good few Lansdowne players involved too.

ormond lad

Any result from 20s game against Ulster today?
There is a small number of photo's from todays game below
http://www.inpho.ie/app/WebObjects/INPHO-Shop.woa/wo/78.0.27.15

yougottagoboy

20s played ulster A in Belvo today.not sure score,anyone have any idea?

yougottagoboy

http://www.inpho.ie/app/WebObjects/INPHO-Shop.woa/wa/p?cl=KoFe01p7XdTtMGdl3PzE9g..a&ts=PyyFns1ccAviLJwvtwRmx9wRGBRTKGFA48OdDEU_Sro.a

some pics

JustinDee

ormond lad wrote: »

Any result from 20s game against Ulster today?
There is a small number of photo's from todays game below
http://www.inpho.ie/app/WebObjects/INPHO-Shop.woa/3/wo/vDktSazNUpmMVbpP42I3Jw/0.0.27.5.3?KeywordSearch=&Cat_1=3&Cat_2=WONoSelectionString&SortResults=0&wosid=vDktSazNUpmMVbpP42I3Jw&x=146&y=24

20s won. Think score was 38-10. Everyone got a game. A good workout.

yougottagoboy

JustinDee wrote: »

20s won. Think score was 38-10. Everyone got a game. A good workout.

good few new faces in there too

porterbelly

Ulster A are in Thomond today so I'd imagine it was Ulster thirds

JustinDee

porterbelly wrote: »

Ulster A are in Thomond today so I'd imagine it was Ulster thirds

It was a development squad with a good mix of players. Like the Leinster side that played the 20s last week.

rugby_fan

Any updates on the squad?

Hagz

Looks like we can add Adam Byrne to the injury list alongside Farrell.

.ak

Feck. Saw he's in a cast. A poster on LF said he saw him walking around without crutches on Saturday so hopefully it's minor.

ssaye

.ak wrote: »

Feck. Saw he's in a cast. A poster on LF said he saw him walking around without crutches on Saturday so hopefully it's minor.

Yeah was in the stand in Donnybrook seemed fine going up the steps. As did Strauss and Roux has a nice missus :pac: