Dacia Duster

cabb8ge

Opinion differs, it my opinion Megane cheap look and feel compared to Focus, Jetta etc. Back in years past Renault 19 did not feel cheap to me.

listermint

cabb8ge wrote: »

Opinion differs, it my opinion Megane cheap look and feel compared to Focus, Jetta etc. Back in years past Renault 19 did not feel cheap to me.

awful horrid place to be alright....

listermint

perhaps it was the horrible Sport option cabin

listermint

The Renault 19, my dad had one as did the neighbour.

Epitome of style that it was.

galwaytt

listermint wrote: »

perhaps it was the horrible Sport option cabin

I don't see anything wrong with that at all, comparing to say...Focus, Golf etc.

One thing a hangover from R19 and Mégane days which I don't get though............why are the instruments laid back at such an angle....almost facing the roof more than anything else......

cabb8ge

listermint wrote: »

perhaps it was the horrible Sport option cabin

No, it the standard one, not the sport model.

I cannot understand why people challenge other people opinion, why don't you go and post a picture of a more common standard Megane?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-megane-expression-1-5-dci-5dr-h/5913500

Very different from the sport model.

ThisRegard

The materials on the dash and doors are the same on all 3.

listermint

cabb8ge wrote: »

No, it the standard one, not the sport model.

I cannot understand why people challenge other people opinion, why don't you go and post a picture of a more common standard Megane?

Very different from the sport model.

Here you are so, Whats wrong with this interior then? That terrible donedeal ad image doesnt really give a clear picture considering how bad the quality image is with the sun etc.

Where is the premium in comparison to the focus ? Bearing in mind this is the bog standard opening spec of the range.

Im challenging your opinion about how cheap the interior of the new megane supposedly is against the rivals you pointed out.

Looks like a nice place to be, dont you agree ?

delthedriver

MidlandsM wrote: »

it was in the papers, saw it myself - and just because you did'nt see it yourself delboy does'nt mean it wasnt reported.....:rolleyes: only 200 on the 132 plate is a poor performance, espececially for a bargain bucket cheap yoke that some where clambering to order, before the even arrived........but the game is up, as people have seen them now and seen how low grade they actually are, and are spending their hard earned on a quality used suv, mostly in from the uk.

Ah.................. I guess we read different newspapers!:D

delthedriver

BdaraB wrote: »

Sorry I forgot to add in the link in my last post, here is car sales for September: http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2013/10/03/ireland-september-2013-bmw-5-series-1-again-seat-leon-3/

Thank you for the stats, very interesting reading.

Well done, stats always more desirable than throwaway comments.

Sincerely:)

DIF

cabb8ge wrote: »

No, it the standard one, not the sport model.

I cannot understand why people challenge other people opinion, why don't you go and post a picture of a more common standard Megane?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-megane-expression-1-5-dci-5dr-h/5913500

Very different from the sport model.

Ya I made the mistake of getting the entry-level Expression 5-dr hatchback Megane last year - it was dreadful - very cheap hard plastics used inside- bog-standard - no sound-proofing - handled like a elephant in the wet!

I tolerated it for 10 months and gave in - cut my losses and traded it in for a 3 month old ex-rental top of the range GT Line spec Grand Megane. People there is no comparision - it's like driving a different car. Smooth, refined, sound-proofed, very high spec, has sports spec suspension and traction control which you need for the bumpy roads around Cork. And it still has a super efficient diesel engine which only costs €190 to tax and still has a 5 year warranty... so ya it was a classic case of you get what you pay for!

DIF

ThisRegard wrote: »

The materials on the dash and doors are the same on all 3.

No the Expression has a dreadful hard plastic similar to what they use in vans on the doors... the GT Line has a nice soft foam leatherette style finish on the doors... and uses metallic style finish on the door handles etc - no comparision! The Expression has zero sound proofing. When driving the Expression in the rain the noise is horrendous.

650Ginge

delthedriver wrote: »

Thank you for the stats, very interesting reading.

Well done, stats always more desirable than throwaway comments.

Sincerely:)

The figures in that article are rubbish citroen 182,000 I don't think so .

delthedriver

650Ginge wrote: »

The figures in that article are rubbish citroen 182,000 I don't think so .

cabb8ge

listermint wrote: »

Here you are so, Whats wrong with this interior then?

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Looks like a nice place to be, dont you agree ?////

No I don't agree as I said previous
Look cheap and also feels cheap (not possible to convey by photo)
You not agree, I not mind

It seems this man agree
First hand experience too

donjfarrell wrote: »

Ya I made the mistake of getting the entry-level Expression 5-dr hatchback Megane last year - it was dreadful - very cheap hard plastics used inside- bog-standard - no sound-proofing - handled like a elephant in the wet!

I tolerated it for 10 months and gave in - cut my losses and traded it in for a 3 month old ex-rental top of the range GT Line spec Grand Megane. People there is no comparision - it's like driving a different car. Smooth, refined, sound-proofed, very high spec, has sports spec suspension and traction control which you need for the bumpy roads around Cork. And it still has a super efficient diesel engine which only costs €190 to tax and still has a 5 year warranty... so ya it was a classic case of you get what you pay for!

MidlandsM

delthedriver wrote: »

Ah.................. I guess we read different newspapers!:D

yeah, you should give up on the red tops :pac:

colm_mcm

MidlandsM wrote: »

yeah, you should give up on the red tops :pac:

But they're so cheap


*gets coat

delthedriver

MidlandsM wrote: »

yeah, you should give up on the red tops :pac:

LOL! Actually I thought red top were more for second hand car dealers.

TBH I am a Times Reader

delthedriver

colm_mcm wrote: »

But they're so cheap


*gets coat

There are none so blind who don't wish to see:)

MidlandsM

colm_mcm wrote: »

But they're so cheap


*gets coat

and nasty:P

re; being a times reader.......yeah, surrrrrrrrre you are.......lol

delthedriver

MidlandsM wrote: »

and nasty:P

re; being a times reader.......yeah, surrrrrrrrre you are.......lol

Who is being nasty now?:pac:

Lutecia

colm_mcm wrote: »

I dunno del, Renault can't make Renaults premium, so before they make Dacias mainstream they have to make Renaults desirable.

In Ireland at least, the price slashing done a few years back with €8999 clios and €14999 Fluences on scrappage mean that's gonna take a long time.

Difference here is that Dacia is a pure budget brand and a handy brand to have for emerging markets where they can slap a Renault/Nissan/Dacia/Datsun badge on depending on where they want to position the brand.

I suppose the mk1 Logan is Renaults Favorit, the Duster/Sandero etc are their Felicia's, we have yet to see their Octavia.

You're very right on the first part. Renault has to go Premium vs Dacia.
Now Dacia product placement hasn't moved an inch in 9 years in mainland. The Logan was launched in France at 7500€ in 2004, and now starts at 7700€ (with extra power steering, ESP, more airbags etc.). All other brands have gone through regular price increase that make Dacia still low cost. Differs from Skoda story already. Renaults execs said they want to keep it the way it is.

The 8990 Clio and 14990 Mégane/Fluence story... to be honest I though that like other Renaults of the past decade, the value would plummet, especially considering the high volumes the sold and that I could find today a 2010 Fluence for 8K, since Megane/Lagunas have always been pretty much the cheapest thing you could find on the used market.
Now, have a look at the price of a 2010 Mégane/Fluence, vs a Focus or a new Astra.
I think buying new a 2010 Mégane was the best move (but who could have predict that?). I'm happy to have an explanation on why this higher resale value (compared to competitors that have all been sold in lower volumes and have better image).
And today Renault doesn't discount anymore their cars, and the new models aren't particularly cheap.

Now back on the Duster, it's number 2 in Ireland in October:
http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2013/11/02/ireland-october-2013-opel-insignia-and-dacia-duster-on-top/
Dacia Ireland announced today the launch of the Sandero Stepway later this month.

delthedriver

Lutecia wrote: »

You're very right on the first part. Renault has to go Premium vs Dacia.
Now Dacia product placement hasn't moved an inch in 9 years in mainland. The Logan was launched in France at 7500€ in 2004, and now starts at 7700€ (with extra power steering, ESP, more airbags etc.). All other brands have gone through regular price increase that make Dacia still low cost. Differs from Skoda story already. Renaults execs said they want to keep it the way it is.

The 8990 Clio and 14990 Mégane/Fluence story... to be honest I though that like other Renaults of the past decade, the value would plummet, especially considering the high volumes the sold and that I could find today a 2010 Fluence for 8K, since Megane/Lagunas have always been pretty much the cheapest thing you could find on the used market.
Now, have a look at the price of a 2010 Mégane/Fluence, vs a Focus or a new Astra.
I think buying new a 2010 Mégane was the best move (but who could have predict that?). I'm happy to have an explanation on why this higher resale value (compared to competitors that have all been sold in lower volumes and have better image).
And today Renault doesn't discount anymore their cars, and the new models aren't particularly cheap.

Now back on the Duster, it's number 2 in Ireland in October:
http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2013/11/02/ireland-october-2013-opel-insignia-and-dacia-duster-on-top/
Dacia Ireland announced today the launch of the Sandero Stepway later this month.

Thank you. Very Interesting Post.:)

delthedriver

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/top-gear-awards-bargain-of-the-year-2012-12-19


TG Awards Bargain of the Year: Dacia Duster
"What the Dacia does so well is engender a sense of well-being. That you spent wisely, frugally. That you embrace rationality...":D

MidlandsM

delthedriver wrote: »

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/top-gear-awards-bargain-of-the-year-2012-12-19


TG Awards Bargain of the Year: Dacia Duster
"What the Dacia does so well is engender a sense of well-being. That you spent wisely, frugally. That you embrace rationality...":D

and you are tight

delthedriver

delthedriver wrote: »

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/top-gear-awards-bargain-of-the-year-2012-12-19


TG Awards Bargain of the Year: Dacia Duster
"What the Dacia does so well is engender a sense of well-being. That you spent wisely, frugally. That you embrace rationality...":D

A new car for the price of a second hand car !:)

MadYaker

I see a few of these in France every time I'm there, but I've yet to see even one in Ireland. Is anyone buying them here?

colm_mcm

Yeah, sure there's a lad on here on his second one.

delthedriver

Dacia Warranty

Every new Dacia is covered by a standard 3 year / 100,000 km* Warranty package. Under the terms of this Warranty, your Dacia dealer is able to repair or replace, without charge, parts that are found to have a material or assembly defect that is recognised by Dacia. Your new Dacia also comes with a 2 year paintwork warranty, as well as a 6 year anti-corrosion warranty.

Drive with peace of mind!


Why would anyone risk a second hand car with 3 months warranty?:D

JohnBoy26

delthedriver wrote: »

A new car for the price of a second hand car !:)

Id have no qualms in paying the same money for a good secondhand car over a new dacia.

delthedriver

940 posts!:D

MadYaker

Dacia Duster, 63 pages, there must have been some serious tangents!

delthedriver

MadYaker wrote: »

I see a few of these in France every time I'm there, but I've yet to see even one in Ireland. Is anyone buying them here?

Now back on the Duster, it's number 2 in Ireland in October:
http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2013/...duster-on-top/
Dacia Ireland announced today the launch of the Sandero Stepway later this month.:D

colm_mcm

Form an orderly queue.....

MuppetCheck

colm_mcm wrote: »

Form an orderly queue.....

New thread perhaps?

For Forks Sake

delthedriver wrote: »

Now back on the Duster, it's number 2 in Ireland in October:
http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2013/...duster-on-top/
Dacia Ireland announced today the launch of the Sandero Stepway later this month.:D

71 units. Out of a market (Oct) of 1692 registrations. Break out the champagne.

colm_mcm

MuppetCheck wrote: »

New thread perhaps?

Is there not a sandero thread too? They all look the same to me

JohnBoy26

delthedriver wrote: »

Dacia Warranty

Every new Dacia is covered by a standard 3 year / 100,000 km* Warranty package. Under the terms of this Warranty, your Dacia dealer is able to repair or replace, without charge, parts that are found to have a material or assembly defect that is recognised by Dacia. Your new Dacia also comes with a 2 year paintwork warranty, as well as a 6 year anti-corrosion warranty.

Drive with peace of mind!


Why would anyone risk a second hand car with 3 months warranty?

3 months? Unless you are going well back in the years you will get significantly more than a 3 months warranty.

There are plenty of cars today that come with long warranties. Cars such as Hyundai and Kia come with 5 and 7 year warranties.

delthedriver

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Id have no qualms in paying the same money for a good secondhand car over a new dacia.

Fair comment.! I guess it depends what and where you are buying it.:D

delthedriver

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

3 months? Unless you are going well back in the years you will get significantly more than a 3 months warranty.

There are plenty of cars today that come with long warranties. Cars such as Hyundai and Kia come with 5 and 7 year warranties.

Second hand cars with 5 and 7 year warranties?

colm_mcm

delthedriver wrote: »

Second hand cars with 5 and 7 year warranties?

Yes, 2 year old kias have 5 years left. 1 year old mitsubishis have 7 years left!
You're less likely to need the warranty too

delthedriver

colm_mcm wrote: »

Yes, 2 year old kias have 5 years left. 1 year old mitsubishis have 7 years left!
You're less likely to need the warranty too

Thank you for clarifying that Colm. You are of course talking about Manufacturer warranties versus 3 month dealer warranties, t&c's apply depending on the dealer.

It is also possible to additional Dacia warranty up to 5 years at car purchase stage:D

delthedriver

For Forks Sake wrote: »

71 units. Out of a market (Oct) of 1692 registrations. Break out the champagne.

Bollinger would be very nice , thank you:)

colm_mcm

delthedriver wrote: »

Bollinger would be very nice , thank you:)

delthedriver

colm_mcm wrote: »

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

road_high

MadYaker wrote: »

I see a few of these in France every time I'm there, but I've yet to see even one in Ireland. Is anyone buying them here?

Lots. One of this years sales "sensations" (if you could call a Dacia a sensation ) in Ireland. They've really struck a chord here, new car for €9,995 for a "131 or 132" ; that's enough for many Irish motorists.
I suspect many have traded in superior older cars for a "new" Dacia. Not that they're bad, it's just I'd rate many secondhand cars way ahead personally.

mickdw

delthedriver wrote: »

Dacia Warranty

Every new Dacia is covered by a standard 3 year / 100,000 km* Warranty package. Under the terms of this Warranty, your Dacia dealer is able to repair or replace, without charge, parts that are found to have a material or assembly defect that is recognised by Dacia. Your new Dacia also comes with a 2 year paintwork warranty, as well as a 6 year anti-corrosion warranty.

Drive with peace of mind!


Why would anyone risk a second hand car with 3 months warranty?:D

I am nearly convinced but Im pretty sure Ive found a major issue with the technical wording of that warranty

colm_mcm

mickdw wrote: »

I am nearly convinced but Im pretty sure Ive found a major issue with the technical wording of that warranty

The material or assembly defect bit? The recognised by dacia bit?

delthedriver

colm_mcm wrote: »

The material or assembly defect bit? The recognised by dacia bit?

I guess it is better than the lack of wording in the 3 month 'warranty" from the Second Hand Sales Lot :D:D:D

mickdw

Yes, yes all of the above but additionally they fail to acknowledge liability for, or make any provision for the cleaning of vomit from the dash each morning.