Dacia Duster

dr.fuzzenstein

ba_barabus wrote: »

Is that the same company that makes the watches?

The watches where Russian Officer's watches. No idea who made them:

ba_barabus

I have a Zenith watch at home. I just didn't know they made camera too.

I'd love one of those watches above btw.

I've figured it out:
Zenit = Camera
Zenith = Watch

jimgoose

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

The watches where Russian Officer's watches. No idea who made them:

Is the "Commander" model, made by the First Moscow Watch Factory?

ba_barabus

jimgoose wrote: »

Is the "Commander" model, made by the First Moscow Watch Factory?

I've now started bidding on Russian watches on ebay.

listermint

gallag wrote: »

Yes mate, they are all just jelly of your duster. Face it mate, your on a motor forum full of enthusiasts so why the suprise that most think lowly of the duster which is at the end of the day a car built with the primary goal of being cheep and unspectacular.

Face it mate, there is a militant little bunch here who i suspect are in the trade and will take every opportunity to slant any custom for this Renault model. I think that much is pretty clear.

_Brian

listermint wrote: »

Face it mate, there is a militant little bunch here who i suspect are in the trade and will take every opportunity to slant any custom for this Renault model. I think that much is pretty clear.

I think you'll find that the same nay Sayers were dishing Skodas a few years back, turns out they were wrong and Skoda has become a very acceptable choice of motor.

I'm not saying Dacias will have the same position as Skodas, just people shouldn't be too quick to dish a Brand that's not VW, Audi or Toyota.

I'm neither in the trade nor an owner, but I like to be open minded and accept things for their merits rather than just going along with the sheep in the flock.

Zubeneschamali

_Brian wrote: »

people shouldn't be too quick to dish a Brand that's not VW, Audi or Toyota.

I hate Toyota too, so I can dish Dacia all I want, right?

and actually, I don't hate Dacia, I think the Sandero is fair enough, it is specifically the Duster I hate.

Renegade Mechanic

The Willys Jeep of our time
http://www.4tuning.ro/concept-car/dacia-duster-army-totul-despre-suv-ul-romanesc-de-razboi-21117.html

Non romainian speakers/google translate users can still enjoy all the pics

dr.fuzzenstein

jimgoose wrote: »

Is the "Commander" model, made by the First Moscow Watch Factory?

No idea, just looks cool.

dr.fuzzenstein

ba_barabus wrote: »

I've now started bidding on Russian watches on ebay.

Slippery slope right there! Cameras and uniforms are usually next.

zinzan

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

The Willys Jeep of our time
http://www.4tuning.ro/concept-car/dacia-duster-army-totul-despre-suv-ul-romanesc-de-razboi-21117.html

Non romainian speakers/google translate users can still enjoy all the pics

I'm loving the Google Chrome translation:

ESSENTIAL In the future, Duster Army will be equipped with 20mm guns The machine has a platform remotely Teleoperator It works on versions with stronger armor.

After being seen and admired Parade December 1, the new creation of Dacia was finally tested in the field. It's Dacia Duster Army, a special model in collaboration with MND. The Duster has protection systems, night vision and a 7.62 mm caliber automatic machine gun. Army Dacia Duster Duster is a model specifically modified for military. It has some special accessories for operation in rough terrain, and features taken directly from the act. To cope with any off-road conditions, Warn winch is equipped with DDA, towing eyelets all over, Mud-Terrain tires Simex, protective underbody shields and a roll cage outside. Besides the Duster features that makes it a real off-road vehicle, and accessories are contributed by the Ministry of Defence. It is a machine gun 7.62 mm caliber automatic assault that was mounted on a metal platform , initially used on a tank of Land Forces equipment. The platform was improved but many aluminum parts, to give a low weight that does not affect the center of gravity of the car.

Bucharest Mechanical Plant engineers realized platform and a Romanian company dealt with the electronics. Machine gun platform which consists of support you phone equipped with electric motors that move the gun on 3 axes, weapons and armored compartment sighting systems. The machine gun is handled inside the machine by an operator who has available a joystick connected to a computer integrated touch screen. "Teleoperator platform is one of the five versions of the equipment. This version is one of aluminum, low birthweight, which allowed us to assemble Dacia vehicle type. Do not try to hide that further adapted to it horse arms team. 12.7 mm and 14.5 mm. We have a request from Romarm to adapt a platform for weapons Teleoperator cal. 20 mm. " says general manager of Bucharest Mechanical Plant, George John.

Complex electronic systems consists of observation in daylight, thermal camera and laser telemetry system . All these systems are connected to the computer operated puller. In addition, the car has and lighting systems with infra-red, Blackout mode when the headlights and taillights has covered factory and can be seen only by those endowed with special glasses. The Army is more Duster observation car at night, only one assault. Copy Duster Army has undergone field trials and firing cartridges maneuver, not to see some real precision sighting systems. Even so, it seems that in the future we will see some improved models army. It seems that Renault center in Titu working on some special armor kits for the Duster to be safer in real combat.

Currently, this project seems a good solution for border areas. Because the main advantage of this machine is power monitoring and observation at night, not power assault. But gun being used for purposes of intimidation to stop those who want to cross the border illegally or make traffic. But in real war like Afghanistan or Iraq fronts, the Duster would need more armor to cope with war conditions there. But since this is a first draft, we believe that in future we will see Romanian car adapted better to be a possible product worthy of consideration by the armed forces worldwide.

Renegade Mechanic

Yeah, the best part of that translation is the claim that it doesn't affect centre of gravity...

I'd also love a Lada Niva. They are some bloody off roader. I'd love to stick an old, clattery diesel into one, too. Maybe a 1.6 Vw diesel. I can already hear Pavlovitch roaring, and Putin thanking me for getting him off the hook

ba_barabus

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Slippery slope right there! Cameras and uniforms are usually next.

I've been outbid. I doubt I'll push it any more

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/No-reserve-USSR-MENS-WATCH-Elektronika-5-RARE-LCD-USSR-Watch-/131481450208

GavMan

_Brian wrote: »

That looks good.
When is this facelift to hit the streets ?
Would really like to see one in the flesh.

Available now. Have seen a good few in 2015

dr.fuzzenstein

ba_barabus wrote: »

I've been outbid. I doubt I'll push it any more

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/No-reserve-USSR-MENS-WATCH-Elektronika-5-RARE-LCD-USSR-Watch-/131481450208

Nice, digital is not my cup of tea though.
Are you tired of having money? Here is a good cure:
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Old-Original-USSR-Military-OKEAN-SHTURMANSKIE-VMF-Chronograph-POLJOT-Steel-Case-/141624163290?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20f9753bda

ba_barabus

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Nice, digital is not my cup of tea though.
Are you tired of having money? Here is a good cure:
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Old-Original-USSR-Military-OKEAN-SHTURMANSKIE-VMF-Chronograph-POLJOT-Steel-Case-/141624163290?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20f9753bda

I just couldn't stay away. I have a new CCCP watch on the way :cool:

newfranko

gallag wrote: »

Yes mate, they are all just jelly of your duster. Face it mate, your on a motor forum full of enthusiasts so why the suprise that most think lowly of the duster which is at the end of the day a car built with the primary goal of being cheep and unspectacular.

Yes mate I am on a motor forum and one specifically for the Dacia Duster and clearly not all the "enthusiasts" share your opinion of the "cheep" and unspectacular Duster, if you don't like 'em thats your choice just don't diss those who do.

pablo128

newfranko wrote: »

Yes mate I am on a motor forum and one specifically for the Dacia Duster and clearly not all the "enthusiasts" share your opinion of the "cheep" and unspectacular Duster, if you don't like 'em thats your choice just don't diss those who do.

I would probably be a big fan of Dacias, if it wasn't for the fact that they are made by Renault.

That's the only reason I wouldn't even consider them.

newfranko

pablo128 wrote: »

I would probably be a big fan of Dacias, if it wasn't for the fact that they are made by Renault.

That's the only reason I wouldn't even consider them.

Nissan don't seem to mind, they are half Renault parts in them, would you buy a Qashqai ?

El Kabong!

I was looking at the new shapes in the dealers. I thought the Logan front end was very Toyota esque.

The Duster and the Qashqai have the same diesel engine and chassis AFAIK.

I'm secure enough in myself to be able to accept a Dacia for what it is, and even own one. Looks like lots aren't!
Would have to drive one properly though. If there is indeed a bad reverb/NVH and if the gearshift is a bit dodge I would prob just get a used Megane estate instead.

colm_mcm

The duster and the juke are related by platform (a stretched Renault B platform)
That same platform was used on the tiida/nv200/old model note

dr.fuzzenstein

ba_barabus wrote: »

I just couldn't stay away. I have a new CCCP watch on the way :cool:

Cool! Pics! Pics!
Well that's that, your house will be awash with Soviet era stuff within the year...

alias no.9

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Yeah, the best part of that translation is the claim that it doesn't affect centre of gravity...

I'd also love a Lada Niva. They are some bloody off roader. I'd love to stick an old, clattery diesel into one, too. Maybe a 1.6 Vw diesel. I can already hear Pavlovitch roaring, and Putin thanking me for getting him off the hook

Apparently the Fiat 1.9td is a handy swap

pablo128

newfranko wrote: »

Nissan don't seem to mind, they are half Renault parts in them, would you buy a Qashqai ?

Absolutely not a chance, nor would I have any of the Renault era Nissans.

a postere

How are the Irish dusters working out reliability wise ?

Was the thin paint issue sorted or are they rust prone ?

a postere

Just checked out the prices dealers are asking for 2 year old Dusters, crazy, almost as much as the brand new ones.

I thought we were told the depreciation would be horrendous on them ?

colm_mcm

There's 194 white dusters regged so far this year and 443 last year. Think these are the most affected by bad paint?

my friend

a postere wrote: »

Just checked out the prices dealers are asking for 2 year old Dusters, crazy, almost as much as the brand new ones.

I thought we were told the depreciation would be horrendous on them ?

Asking and getting are two different matters , surely you're not so naive?

Reggie.

_Brian wrote: »

That looks good.
When is this facelift to hit the streets ?
Would really like to see one in the flesh.

Parents are on their second one

Facelift looks good and also the paint is far better now.

Got the dacia stepway on order aswell. Hopefully it will be arriving at the end of may

a postere

my friend wrote: »

Asking and getting are two different matters , surely you're not so naive?

Don't be a dick

a postere

colm_mcm wrote: »

There's 194 white dusters regged so far this year and 443 last year. Think these are the most affected by bad paint?

White is the one to avoid so, is the paint ok on the rest of them ?

Reggie.

a postere wrote: »

White is the one to avoid so, is the paint ok on the rest of them ?

Yeah. The paint job applied now is fine.

a postere

Reggie. wrote: »

Yeah. The paint job applied now is fine.

so if buying a used one, what years in white should be avoided ?

Reggie.

a postere wrote: »

so if buying a used one, what years in white should be avoided ?

Can't tell you that info I'm afraid mate. Parent had a silver one with no trouble for 2 years and just a few months ago changed to the newer shape one. All good so far

BobbyPropane

I personally like the look of them. Would choose one over a Qashqai no problem

colm_mcm

I'd assume the Indian built ones have the paint issues and the later ones built in Romania don't?
Cars built after August 2014 are said to have the paint issues resolved.

dr.fuzzenstein

a postere wrote: »

White is the one to avoid so, is the paint ok on the rest of them ?

Plus they look horrid in white. Like a builder's van.

newfranko

colm_mcm wrote: »

I'd assume the Indian built ones have the paint issues and the later ones built in Romania don't?
Cars built after August 2014 are said to have the paint issues resolved.

I have an Indian built Duster in metallic bronze with no sign of rust anywhere so perhaps the metallic painted cars are better protected against rust, if I had a choice I would take the Romanian built Duster any day over the Indian model they have got it right this time.

a postere

How do you tell Indian built from Romanian ?

- I take it its chassis no. , what numbers distinguish the Indian built ones ?

Zubeneschamali

a postere wrote: »

How do you tell Indian built from Romanian ?

If it isn't rusty yet, it's probably Romanian.

a postere

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

If it isn't rusty yet, it's probably Romanian.

I rather check the origin properly than take that chance.

Lutecia

I might be wrong, but doesn't the change of production location match the (slight) facelift ?

newfranko

a postere wrote: »

How do you tell Indian built from Romanian ?

- I take it its chassis no. , what numbers distinguish the Indian built ones ?

All phase 2 Dusters i.e. face lift models are Romanian built. The earlier phase 1 models are all Indian built.

listermint

a postere wrote: »

How do you tell Indian built from Romanian ?

- I take it its chassis no. , what numbers distinguish the Indian built ones ?

Ask it a question, Make sure you use the correct dialect though.

tf2

I sold my duster after nearly 2.5 years. Overall impression - terrific A to B vehicle. Reliable and affordable.

Reggie.

tf2 wrote: »

I sold my duster after nearly 2.5 years. Overall impression - terrific A to B vehicle. Reliable and affordable.

Replaced with another duster?

tf2

No I didn't go for another one. Nothing against the Duster at all - I don't have the need for two cars at the moment. Wouldn't rule one out down the road though.

dr.fuzzenstein

tf2 wrote: »

I sold my duster after nearly 2.5 years. Overall impression - terrific A to B vehicle. Reliable and affordable.

But! But! You're wrong! How about all those people who never owned one telling us so?

R.O.R

tf2 wrote: »

I sold my duster after nearly 2.5 years. Overall impression - terrific A to B vehicle. Reliable and affordable.

The big question is, what did you get for it?

Tuppence, like most posters on this thread expect, or a decent amount meaning little depreciation which is what I'd think?

Reggie.

R.O.R wrote: »

The big question is, what did you get for it?

Tuppence, like most posters on this thread expect, or a decent amount meaning little depreciation which is what I'd think?

We traded in our 3 year old sandero for a stepway and got 7K trade in. Loss of 4k which I was happy with