Attorney claims U.S. Government sent him time travelling to 18th century Gettysburg

MrMojoRisin

I don't know if anyone read the following story, or not, already (it was reported back in April, but I only saw it myself now), but it's about an American attorney named Andrew D. Basiago who claims that, in 1972, the U.S. government sent him back to 18th-century Gettysburg, during the era of Abraham Lincoln, using a time travel machine.

He said that he was even captured in a photograph of Lincoln, who was giving a speech in Gettysburg in 1863. Basiago said he also visited - again, thanks to time travel - the theatre where Lincoln was assassinated on the very same night as many as six times. He describes the whole time travel experience as being present in slightly different alternative realities (presumably on separate occasions, though he does say that he ran into himself - a double - on one journey) on adjacent timelines.

According to Basiago, some kind of holographic technology developed by the government enabled this time travel.

What do the rest of you think of it all? I was having some 'Back To The Future' film flashbacks, ha, ha.

Here's the rest of the article, accompanied by a video:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/28/andrew-basiago-seattle-attorney-time-travels_n_1438216.html

On top of all that, Basiago says he knew all about 9/11 decades before it happened after seeing the event on film, or something. You'd think he would have said something, ffs.

Video here featuring a radio interview with Basiago, preceded by some bloke talking about Santiago:

maccored

his name is Andrew D. Basiago

maccored

im going to chance my arm and see if we can get him on taps family radio

Ziycon

Let us know if you do get him on, I'd be interested to hear what he has to say.

Loughc

Surely if that was true the US would want to "silence" him! :P

Myrddin

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

He describes the whole time travel experience as being present in slightly different alternative realities (presumably on separate occasions, though he does say that he ran into himself - a double - on one journey) on adjacent timelines.

MrMojoRisin

maccored wrote: »

his name is Andrew D. Basiago

Let me take out the world's smallest violin to play the world's saddest tune at the loss of the 'D'.

maccored

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

Let me take out the world's smallest violin to play the world's saddest tune at the loss of the 'D'.

you said Andrew D. Santiago, not Andrew D. Basiago. Sorry to ruin the whole D joke you had going there ....

MrMojoRisin

maccored wrote: »

you said Andrew D. Santiago, not Andrew D. Basiago. Sorry to ruin the whole D joke you had going there ....

Oh yeah, sorry. Dunno where I got 'Santiago' from.

Ah no, don't worry - you haven't ruined my D joke at all. It was missing and now it's found, so all's well that ends well.

maccored

its a bit more like the extra t and n plus the missing b ;-)

mrmorgan

all he was short was the Delorean ha ha

Owryan

was abe lincoln not a 19th century president ?

It's hard to take what he's saying seriously with such bad quality video - you can hear one passerby telling another what's happening, at which point the interviewer and the interviewee had to shush them.

MrMojoRisin

Owryan wrote: »

was abe lincoln not a 19th century president ?

I'm not 100% sure. I vaguely remember being told by a teacher ages ago that, if a date within a century was either at or beyond the 50-year mark, that would mean it becomes the next century by name alone. E.g. it's 1573, so we (might?) say that that's the 16th century.

It seems to only apply to centuries before the 20th century though. I mean, when it was, say, 1973, then that was still called the 20th century.

I could be totally wrong here. I find it a bit confusing, tbh.

According to Wikipedia, the 19th century is from 1801-1900.

face1990

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

I'm not 100% sure. I vaguely remember being told by a teacher ages ago that, if a date within a century was either at or beyond the 50-year mark, that would mean it becomes the next century by name alone.

Never believe a teacher!

A century begins on the first year (eg. 1701) and ends on the 100th year (not the 99th). So 1701-1800 is in the 18th century, 1801-1900 is in the 19th century.
Thus, Lincoln was a 19th century president.

As for the time travel story, why would they send that guy back? And send him back to the one date so often that he bumped into a copy of himself?

Oryx

So the American government can time travel and yet we still end up with the world (including the us economy) in a depression, 911 still happened, and they've had more man made fcuk ups in the last 40 years than you can shake a stick at? I don't think so. I think yer man might have had a bit too much flower power back in '72.

tallaghtmick

I wouldn't have classed time travel as paranormal maybe technology or something but I guess its out of the normal range of things.....anyways I remember reading a few years back that scientists in oz had successfully transported a apple across the room,could be the same tech...

MrMojoRisin

Oryx, I know what you mean about the shambolic incidents that were 'allowed' to occur in the U.S. despite the apparent existence, and obvious potential usefulness, of time travel. That's what I would think as well ordinarily but, increasingly (and more recently), I have honestly been thinking that things like 9/11 and the faltering economy have been anything but accidental.

I'm probably getting into loony 'Jim Corr territory' here (and I used to waste no time in taking the piss out of conspiracy theorists like him), but I think all of those 'negative events' were carefully orchestrated and timed strategically by (currently anonymous) people behind, and outside of, the U.S. government. Members of the U.S. Senate most likely don't even know, or know about, these people, such are they oblivious puppets on strings. I think that the overall purpose of fcuking up USA (and, subsequently, many other countries, given Wall Street's far-reaching influence), is to weaken the population - financially and then physically and emotionally - to make them more dependent on, and subordinate to, the government. We could be looking at a cashless society in the next 30 years, replaced by a system where each person is fitted with some sort of microchip; almost as if everyone has a barcode printed on the backs of their necks and, instead of having to show physical I.D. when, say, flying somewhere, their DNA is literally scanned instead.

Wading into even crazier waters now, those of a decidedly more 'New Age' mindset would hypothesise that a person's DNA is an interface with their spiritual body and, so, would argue that bureaucratic autonomy over that DNA structure, e.g. having the authority to scan it to 'identify' people from day to day, almost gives them control over the person's soul in a sense...

Now, I'm sure all of that sounds completely bonkers and laughable, but that's what I think of it all. If, indeed, the U.S. government had 'foresaw' atrocities like 9/11 after using time travel back in the '70s, they may have also observed the alternate, adjacent timelines that that guy Basiago mentioned, and saw what the potential outcomes could be, which they could later pick and choose. Maybe.

I saw some other guy, a physicist named Dr. David L. Anderson (FYI, a knowledgeable person once told me that almost all Freemasons have a sole, isolated letter before their surname - food for thought..), came forward in 2009, also claiming that the U.S. government has developed time travel technology:

http://www.examiner.com/article/second-whistleblower-emerges-to-confirm-reality-of-time-travel

Apparently there's this technological resource known as the 'Web Bot', which uses software to search the Internet for about 300,000 keywords with emotional context and record the preceding and following words to create a ‘snapshot.’

Through this, according to that article, the Web Bot can supposedly "examine the collective unconscious of the world as a whole. The data collected by the Web Bot is then analysed via Asymmetric Language Trend Analysis (or ALTA) to discern future trends."

A Sept. 15, 2009 report derived from the Web Bot predicted that a “planetary whistleblower” would emerge from the current period of U.S. financial collapse. Clif High, the genius behind the Web Bot, determined that the individual was “very likely” Mr. Basiago, a lawyer from Washington State who is leading a truth campaign to establish that the U.S. defense community achieved teleportation in the late 1960s.



The report also stated that Mr. Basiago’s crusade would spark a movement, as other whistle-blowers shared with the public previously secret information.


In fulfillment of the scenario predicted by the Web Bot, both Mr. Basiago and Dr. Anderson are whistleblowers who have emerged during the latter months of 2009 to affirm secret time travel advancements by the U.S. government and private industry that may articulate a way out of the current depression via investment in a 21st century infrastructure that would include teleportation and other new energy applications.

There's another story about the U.S. government's apparent work on developing time travel technology here:

'The U.S. Government, Dimensional Portals and Dr. Wen Ho Lee: The Rest of the Story'.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread59997/pg1#pid626124.

MrMojoRisin

tallaghtmick wrote: »

I wouldn't have classed time travel as paranormal maybe technology or something but I guess its out of the normal range of things.....anyways I remember reading a few years back that scientists in oz had successfully transported a apple across the room,could be the same tech...

Yeah, I suppose because we don't know enough about it (or even know for sure that it even exists), that we would categorise it as paranormal for now.

I'd like to find more info about those Australian scientists transporting that apple..

There's info here about scientists that have successfully teleported things like laser beams:

The most recent successful teleportation experiment took place on October 4, 2006 at the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen, Denmark. Dr. Eugene Polzik and his team teleported information stored in a laser beam into a cloud of atoms. According to Polzik, "It is one step further because for the first time it involves teleportation between light and matter, two different objects. One is the carrier of information and the other one is the storage medium." The information was teleported about 1.6 feet (half a meter).

http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/teleportation1.htm

I Need The Sun

I'd day that this Andrew B Dasagio is mentally unwell.

MrMojoRisin

I Need The Sun wrote: »

I'd day that this Andrew B Dasagio is mentally unwell.

What, as in he might suffer from False memory syndrome (FMS)?

Wikipedia:

False memory syndrome (FMS) describes a condition in
which a person's identity and relationships are affected by memories which are
factually incorrect but are strongly believed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory_syndrome

I wonder if he was subjected to hypnotherapy/hypnosis at any point? People can acquire 'planted memories' (courtesy of those who hypnotise them - though, personally, I have never believed in hypnosis myself and was incapable of being hypnotised on two occasions a few years ago), where they feel that the memories are so genuine, they are unable to distinguish between the false memories and real memories. In extreme cases, the person can develop a personality disorder.

face1990

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

What, as in he might suffer from False memory syndrome (FMS)?

More likely he's just delusional in some way. Any kind of psychotic disorder will cause delusions, like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder (i.e. manic depression), and many more.
Whatever the condition, he certainly doesn't seem to be of sound mind!

I Need The Sun

Thats interesting Mr Mojo.

Time apressing, I use my gut feeling to think, "right whats the likely hood of this happening?" and "Why are'nt there other reports of this government programme", maybe there is.

But in the absence of other evidence I call "not a well man", but if he seems genuine enough, FMS is a very plausible explanation.

How much is a pint in The Crown nowadays?

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

What, as in he might suffer from False memory syndrome (FMS)?

Wikipedia:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory_syndrome

I wonder if he was subjected to hypnotherapy/hypnosis at any point? People can acquire 'planted memories' (courtesy of those who hypnotise them - though, personally, I have never believed in hypnosis myself and was incapable of being hypnotised on two occasions a few years ago), where they feel that the memories are so genuine, they are unable to distinguish between the false memories and real memories. In extreme cases, the person can develop a personality disorder.

MrMojoRisin

I Need The Sun wrote: »

Thats interesting Mr Mojo.

Time apressing, I use my gut feeling to think, "right whats the likely hood of this happening?" and "Why are'nt there other reports of this government programme", maybe there is.

Well, I know that one fella named David Lewis Anderson, a physicist, also came out of the woodwork in 2009, saying more-or-less the same thing as Basiago.

The U.S. government might adhere to the adage, "If you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing at all" and just let the claims sink back into obscurity like a lead balloon. Hard to know for sure..

I Need The Sun wrote: »

But in the absence of other evidence I call "not a well man", but if he seems genuine enough, FMS is a very plausible explanation.

It might be FMS, and I'm wondering if it's still possible for sufferers to hold down a steady job (Basiago is an attorney apparently)? I must find out.

I Need The Sun wrote: »

How much is a pint in The Crown nowadays?

I don't go there often because it's usually crammed with tourists (though, in a way, I'm like a tourist myself, tbh), but the last time I was in there, I got a pint of Heineken for about £4.20. It was reasonable enough. It's a nice place and they do great food though. Must be one of Belfast's oldest watering holes.

I Need The Sun

Thanks Mr Mojo.

Veering off topic slightly, I think I heard on the telly recently a claim that Kelly's Cellars is the oldest pub in the NI Big Smoke.

Mind you it seems to be a preserve of the NI media to say "the first every time in Northern Ireland" etc...watch out for that, maybe that's just me.

Cheers...

Oryx

Oryx wrote: »

So the American government can time travel and yet we still end up with the world (including the us economy) in a depression, 911 still happened, and they've had more man made fcuk ups in the last 40 years than you can shake a stick at? I don't think so. I think yer man might have had a bit too much flower power back in '72.

If time is infinite meaning that if one was to go back in time and change something, that would just create another time line. And if you want to get more cross eyed about it , every decision you make in your life, like deciding weather to get the buss home or walk, creates a new time line.

krd

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/teleportation1.htm

It's very misleading for them to call that teleportation. They did a quantum entanglement experiment. Quantum entanglement is what Einstein called Spooky Action at a distance - spukhafte Fernwirkung. Because it is spooky, but it's not teleportation.

Nothing can be teleported. Not apples, not photons, and certainly not people.


I doubt very much, that in the early 70s, when the most powerful computers in the world were less powerful that the cheapest mobile phone you can get today, there were any time machines.

Myrddin

Deleted User wrote: »

If time is infinite meaning that if one was to go back in time and change something, that would just create another time line. And if you want to get more cross eyed about it , every decision you make in your life, like deciding weather to get the buss home or walk, creates a new time line.

Thats the way I understand it too. Isn't it crazy to think how many different timelines were/are created if this is true. Every second, every decision made by anything & everything in the universe creates a new timeline. Mind boggling stuff.

EnterNow

EnterNow wrote: »

Thats the way I understand it too. Isn't it crazy to think how many different timelines were/are created if this is true. Every second, every decision made by anything & everything in the universe creates a new timeline. Mind boggling stuff.

It really makes you feel small