Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

ceegee

Leiva wrote: »

MagicMarker wrote: »

Still cost 11 million less than Carroll.

Really ?!

RVP
£180,000 x 208 = £37,440,000 + £24,000,000 = £61.4mil

AC
£80,000 x 208 = £16,640,000 + £35,000,000 = £51.6 mil

At the end of their current 4yr contracts:

Andy Carroll will be 25 years old
R. Van Persie will be 33 years old


Really is retarded to leave out wages .

Dont forget scoring bonuses, RVP will be costing more in those as well.

A lot more.

:-)

Copper_pipe

I must see how RVP and Rooney will work on Fifa now :Pac:

kryogen

If its 15 with add ons Id be happy with that I must say.

Leiva

Coletrickle88 wrote: »

Rvp will prob actually score some goals though unlike Bandy Andy.

alproctor wrote: »

But at the end of their respective 4 year terms RVP will have a shed-load more goals (and trophies)

Really is retarded to leave out trophies.

kryogen wrote: »

No need to get aggressive now

Is it a 4 year deal? I can also only assume you are speculating on the wages?

Also, has the transfer fee been made public yet even?

Take what you want from it my point simply was ;

1.) it's retarded to say player X was dearer than player Y and not factor in wages.

2.) Andy Carroll was not dearer than RVP.

That's all .

Fuhrer

Leiva wrote: »

Take what you want from it my point simply was ;

1.) it's retarded to say player X was dearer than player Y and not factor in wages.

2.) Andy Carroll was not dearer than RVP.

That's all .

He was.

DenMan

Arsenal fan here guys. Can't say I'm thrilled with this I have to say. Well done on getting RVP. Him and Rooney are going to be a lethel combo together. I'm looking forward to seeing them both together. Hope he doesn't score against us!

yabadabado

Leiva wrote: »

Take what you want from it my point simply was ;

1.) it's retarded to say player X was dearer than player Y and not factor in wages.

2.) Andy Carroll was not dearer than RVP.

That's all .

You or anyone else on this thread have no idea how much RVP will be on per week.

Andy Carroll's transfer fee was more than RVP .

ceegee

DB21 wrote: »

BRACE YOURSELVES....

To be fair its not just the Arsenal fans who are cumming lol



RVF**KINGP!!!! GET IN!!!!

I presume he'll be wearing 28 if he doesnt get 9, cant see them taking Fab's number off him while hes on loan

Jax Teller

Give Rafael number 2 and Rvp 21 till either Giggs retires or Berba leaves .

Copper_pipe

On 15th of August 2011, Cesc fabregas completed the switch to Barca.

On 15th of August 2012, RVP leaves for Man United!

Quandary

We have a new dead ball specialist now too!

niallo27

It will be interesting to see how Rooney reacts to not being the No 1 striker, it could affect him. He has a big ego.

v3ttel

Paul Tergat wrote: »

Carrick has to play. That centre mid is so exposed

It is exposed, but not much more than what we started off last season with.

Cleverley and Ando could not have been any more exposed imo. Wasn't there some stat about De Gea having more shots to save in the first 5 games than any other keeper in the league?

And yes, I would probably have Carrick in there if I was thinking a bit more rationally with the RVP news. Cleverley does excite me.

miralize

From Twitter, had to laugh

Breaking: Manchester United sign Van Persie to create new striking duo; Fatman and Robin...

thegreengoblin

Leiva wrote: »

Really ?!

RVP
£180,000 x 208 = £37,440,000 + £24,000,000 = £61.4mil

AC
£80,000 x 208 = £16,640,000 + £35,000,000 = £51.6 mil

At the end of their current 4yr contracts:

Andy Carroll will be 25 years old
R. Van Persie will be 33 years old


Really is retarded to leave out wages .

This is all assuming Carroll will see out his four year contract at Liverpool. Clearly, he won't. Try again.

Giggsy11

Telegraph reporting fee is 15 Million plus 7 million addons.

Leiva

Fuhrer wrote: »

He was.

yabadabado wrote: »

You or anyone else on this thread have no idea how much RVP will be on per week.

Andy Carroll's transfer fee was more than RVP .

He was offered £140k a week and £5mil loyalty bonus at Arsenal (like what Henry got)

So I think it's safe to say he is getting £180k + per week .

kryogen

Leiva wrote: »

Take what you want from it my point simply was ;

1.) it's retarded to say player X was dearer than player Y and not factor in wages.

2.) Andy Carroll was not dearer than RVP.

That's all .

Currently he is though, if the Van Persie fee is as low as 15mil up front, and you have no idea how long the contract is for or how much its worth then you can hardly say he is the more expensive signing just yet?

Its a pointless one anyway tbh, Carroll was not a proven world class striker, Van Persie is and you would expect him to be costing more in terms of an overall deal.

If Van Persie signs a 4 year deal he may still actually come out of this as being a cheaper transfer funnily enough, almost guaranteed if it is only a 3 year one

Hulk Hands

niallo27 wrote: »

It will be interesting to see how Rooney reacts to not being the No 1 striker, it could affect him. He has a big ego.

1) He still is

2) He hardly did too badly the last time he partnered a superstar (Ronaldo) up front

lordgoat

kryogen wrote: »

Currently he is though, if the Van Persie fee is as low as 15mil up front, and you have no idea how long the contract is for or how much its worth then you can hardly say he is the more expensive signing just yet?

Its a pointless one anyway tbh, Carroll was not a proven world class striker, Van Persie is and you would expect him to be costing more in terms of an overall deal.

If Van Persie signs a 4 year deal he may still actually come out of this as being a cheaper transfer funnily enough, almost guaranteed if it is only a 3 year one

Hmmm I wonder who they wished they'd signed. Carroll or RVP.

I know who I'd pick.

sob1467

Wohoo we got RVP

Leiva

kryogen wrote: »

Currently he is though, if the Van Persie fee is as low as 15mil up front, and you have no idea how long the contract is for or how much its worth then you can hardly say he is the more expensive signing just yet?

Its a pointless one anyway tbh, Carroll was not a proven world class striker, Van Persie is and you would expect him to be costing more in terms of an overall deal.

If Van Persie signs a 4 year deal he may still actually come out of this as being a cheaper transfer funnily enough, almost guaranteed if it is only a 3 year one

Again I never questioned either players qualities .

It was a direct reply to a post about cost .

Way off topic now .

Enjoy your new signing

Over and out .

Paul Tergat

Rooney10 wrote: »

It is exposed, but not much more than what we started off last season with.

Cleverley and Ando could not have been any more exposed imo. Wasn't there some stat about De Gea having more shots to save in the first 5 games than any other keeper in the league?

Yeah thats the point. Start of last season we had huge gaping holes. Cant be doing that again and playing combos of Ando/Clev/Kag in centre mid will lead to that again

Nailz

Keno 92 wrote: »

You don't know how much I laughed at that, it's class!

I, for one, am delighted. To feck with the negativity around it, I hope he destroys defences this season.

yabadabado

Leiva wrote: »

He was offered £140k a week and £5mil loyalty bonus at Arsenal (like what Henry got)

So I think it's safe to say he is getting £180k + per week .

Everyone knows it's not about the money.

Fuhrer

Leiva wrote: »

He was offered £140k a week and £5mil loyalty bonus at Arsenal (like what Henry got)

So I think it's safe to say he is getting £180k + per week .

Not sure you understand what the word safe means.



The words you were probably looking for were probably, its utter speculation, rather than safe.

FutureGuy

I know everyone is thinking the same so I'm going to just come out and say it. How does this affect Bebe's starting position?

bmcc10

Just on the City site there to see what there opinion was there actually having a laugh about his wages not the fee like really a club that still has Bridge, Santa Cruz, Adebyor and what ever other dead weight floating around there squad bit stupid i thought.

Fuhrer

FutureGuy wrote: »

I know everyone is thinking the same so I'm going to just come out and say it. How does this affect Bebe's starting position?

Bebe plays on the wing, so hes going to play the exact amount of games he was before Van Persie was signed...

Nalz

Leiva wrote: »

Again I never questioned either players qualities .

It was a direct reply to a post about cost .

Way off topic now .

Enjoy your new signing

Over and out .

Dude, fix the Location: Location:Location on your profile and stop putting spaces before a full stop. It burns my eyes!

bmcc10

Fuhrer wrote: »

Bebe plays on the wing, so hes going to play the exact amount of games he was before Van Persie was signed...

None!!

TheTownie

Just want to see how Fergie puts his first XI together now.

Rooney10's suggested formation is a good guess but think Fergie would pick Carrick over Cleverly if he had to so the back four would have a bit of protection. Kagawa is a certain starter for me, only question is where and that could well be beside Carrick.

---

DDG

---

---Rafael

---

Rio

---

Vidic----Evra
--Valencia--Kagawa--Carrick--Nani

---

Rooney--Van Persie

---

Welbeck will inevitably see less game time this season too.

kryogen

Leiva wrote: »

Again I never questioned either players qualities .

It was a direct reply to a post about cost .

Way off topic now .

Enjoy your new signing

Over and out .

Its ok, its on topic

The thing is though, you (none of us) actually know the cost of the Van Persie deal if it does go through so you can't try to argue from that point of view just yet.

ceegee

Any chance we could switch to 3 at the back? Smalling Jones and Evans can all play at FB and CB so should be comfortable enough either side of Vidic/Rio. Something like:

DDG
Smalling Vidic Evans
Raf/Val Evra/Nani

Clev Carrick Kag

Rooney RVP


Depending on opposition you could go with more attacking or defensive players at wingback. Or play Val and Evra giving you an easy switch back to 442

Fuhrer

bmcc10 wrote: »

None!!

billyhead

Brilliant news to hear about RVP. We will have an umatched attacking threat from midfield and up front next season which will make great viewing and as everyone knows goals win games. The only worry I have about signing him is his injury history and after having 2 serius problems with his ankles in the past you would worry that it would flare up again and sideline him for an extended period of time but by God when fit he is world class. A front 6 of Kagawa, Nani, Scholes, Carrick and RVP and Rooney will put the ****s into any opposition and would even give the likes of Real Madrid and Barca a run for their money

Blatter

Howard Nurse ‏@howardnurse
Look out for another significant #MUFC announcement from Old Trafford tomorrow.


Hmm, probably the Welbeck new contract news or something.

niallo27

Hulk Hands wrote: »

1) He still is

2) He hardly did too badly the last time he partnered a superstar (Ronaldo) up front

I'm not sure van persie is going play up top and no where else, Rooney was shifted around a few positions, we didn't see the best of Rooney with Ronaldo around and I don't think it will suit him now either, well hopefully anyway.

Nalz

Blatter wrote: »

Howard Nurse ‏@howardnurse
Look out for another significant #MUFC announcement from Old Trafford tomorrow.

Hardly the official signing of the young Chilean?

Blatter

Trilla wrote: »

Hardly the official signing of the young Chilean?

Could be that as well, we'll have to wait and see.

Fuhrer

A contract extension for Michael Owen?

Copper_pipe

Trilla wrote: »

Blatter wrote: »

Howard Nurse ‏@howardnurse
Look out for another significant #MUFC announcement from Old Trafford tomorrow.

Hardly the official signing of the young Chilean?

I wouldn't call the henrique signing significant, Hopefully Welbeck contract , could it be a player part of RVP deal?

Giggsy11

Blatter wrote: »

Howard Nurse ‏@howardnurse
Look out for another significant #MUFC announcement from Old Trafford tomorrow.


Hmm, probably the Welbeck new contract news or something.

Or Berbatov leaving?

kwestfan08

Its so nice for one of these "transfer saga's of the summer" to finally go our way. Ronaldo to Madrid, Tevez to City and the lack of any activity with Sneijder last summer wore me out with the tedium of the same story everyday in the paper with an altered headline. I genuinely feel sorry for Arsenal fans this evening.

On the other hand, RVP to United!!!!!!!

bmcc10

Blatter wrote: »

Howard Nurse ‏@howardnurse
Look out for another significant #MUFC announcement from Old Trafford tomorrow.


Hmm, probably the Welbeck new contract news or something.

Modric;)
SSN announcement on him at 10.

Mr.Nice Guy

Glad to hear he's going to United but it will be his fitness that determines whether this is a good deal or not. I suppose at United they can safeguard him more than maybe Arsenal could.

Jimmy Iovine

Blatter wrote: »

Howard Nurse ‏@howardnurse
Look out for another significant #MUFC announcement from Old Trafford tomorrow.


Hmm, probably the Welbeck new contract news or something.

Please be Nani.

Junior D

Rooney to drop back into midfield maybe??

Carrick --- Rooney
Valencia/Nani --- Kagawa --- Young/Nani
RVP

Giggsy11

ManUtd Stuff ‏@ManUtdStuff

Breaking: Angelo Henriquez has signed a four-year deal at Manchester United.

kryogen

Chap posted this in the Arsenal thread, which if true surely settles the money grabbing claims

ziggyman17 wrote: »

From another site..

Apparently:

£15m with add-ons (unlikely to go above £20m)
£150k a week
Juve and City both bid the same amount, City offered higher wages but he only wanted to join utd.