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Well, how'd it go?
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English (H) A2
Irish (H) C1
Business (H) B2
DCG (H) A2
Chemistry (H) C3
French (O) B1
Maths (H) C2 (I almost cried when I saw this. I've spent the last 2 months preparing to repeat after what I considered a disastrous exam. Can't believe I got a C
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480 points overall, which is about 100 more than I had expected and gives me a good chance of getting my first choice. Absolutely ecstatic and mightily relieved:D 0 -
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Absolutely devastated..I might post the results later because at the moment I cannot even look at the sheet
Well done to all ye lads who got what ye wanted!
Hi David - I've been there my friend. Take the rest of the day to "grieve", then tomorrow think about ur options. It's soul destroying seeing everyone here showing off their 500 and 600 points - good for them but it really hurts when you're disappointed. I repeated my LC - best thing I ever did. Hope you're ok - you will be fine. You're entitled to be angry today. I still say congratulations to you though, regardless of results.0 -
I AM ABSOLUTELY OVER THE MOON!
I was so scared lifting that page out of the envelope but it all worked out better than I ever expected
English: A1
Irish: A1
Biology: A1
German: A2
Geography: A2
Classical Studies: A2
( and a B1 in OL maths )
All higher - That's 570! So unbelievably happy and relieved with English, I thought Pleaney broke me....
Irish, what can I say, it's the last subject I ever would have considered for an A, never mind an A1. Never have gotten them and never thought I would. Was just hoping to manage a B3 like the mocks. Even though I'm delighted, I might review classics. It's the one exam I really felt like I could have managed the A1 in and I loved the paper.
Anyway, if the points don't jump by 45 I'll be seeing y'all in Trinity! Congratulations! 0 -
Wow just checking that now and only 1% of higher level art students got an A1.
A further 4% got an A2.
You really must be very good Anna.
Oh gosh you guys are making me blush :P I am pretty proud, i think one or two more girls in my class got A2's as well, which as far as i know is a first in my school, there hasnt been any A's there in a few years anyway :rolleyes: But thanks We all can be proud today! Have a good night guys! 
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This morning in the car on the way to work my dad asked me what I reckon I got, I said 440/450
I got Bs in English, Japanese and Geogrpahy and As in Ag science, chemistry, biology and physics.
550 :eek:
First thing I did when I got home this evening was **** my envelope containing my institute application forms straight in the bin.
I got an F in the physics mock, an F!!! Today I got an A1. I don't understand :P
Well done everybody.0 -
Hi David - I've been there my friend. Take the rest of the day to "grieve", then tomorrow think about ur options. It's soul destroying seeing everyone here showing off their 500 and 600 points - good for them but it really hurts when you're disappointed. I repeated my LC - best thing I ever did. Hope you're ok - you will be fine. You're entitled to be angry today. I still say congratulations to you though, regardless of results.
Thank you!
I have decided to repeat as I feel it is for the best. I have kinda come to terms with it but I will use "the shock" of it all to my advantage and come back fighting! Thanks again and I am glad repeating worked out for you 0 -
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The two year thing thing is more teaching council diktat than a choice by the universities.They still run the PDE for secondary despite there being an oversubscription of teachers for the last few years. They are even extending it into a two year course.
You're right that colleges tend to continue to run courses while there is demand and funding. However, those conversion PGDips were set up during a time when we didn't have enough qualified teachers and partly on the back of encouragement / support from DES / HEA. Times have changed, and while these students pay their own fees anyway, if the HEA / DES decide to exclude these conversion courses from the FTE calculation for RGAM funding etc. (the other half of the funding mechanism) as tbh would be a logical decision at the moment, just watch how fast they will be discontinued.
Anyway, we're getting a wee bit off-topic here ... 0 -
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How are they supposed to do that? For all they know they could suddenly have 50 eligible people who got the points for a course via rechecks demanding their places, it would be completely impossible. An exaggerated example, but you get the idea. I think they can and will ask you to wait until the following year, unless they know that someone has already withdrawn or has transferred to another course, or if the course is not full for whatever reason.
That is extremely unlikely. Very few people get upgraded in general and an even smaller amount get upgraded enough to become eligible to enter a higher preference course. Once someone is upgraded, the CAO Office notifies the HEIs immediately and the colleges then offer the course to the applicant.
It doesn't seem likely to me that the student is penalised for mistakes made on the part of the state examiners. If the student meets the minimum entry requirements they're entitled to a place in the same way a student who had the results on the day is.For primary teaching, St Patrick's have an interview and an oral Irish test; for secondary I believe it is only TCD that have the interview, yes.
I accept your point that people don't tend to do hugely better if they repeat, unless they did absolutely nothing in sixth year or had an absolutely horrific time during the exams, but if (as you were yourself!) you were only a few points away from your preferred course it could be well worth repeating; while courses do go up and down, they rarely jump dramatically.
I agree, ultimately people have to decide themselves what is best for them re: either repeating or accepting a lower-preference course. But for primary teaching in particular (which was the point I was originally picking up on) the graduate option really isn't ideal: between the fees and the difficulty of being accepted, trying to get in via the primary degree route seems better (although all primary teachers have it tough at the moment due to the job situation).
I actually think it's worse to repeat if you're only a few points off. Excepting mitigating circumstances here, it's hugely unlikely that somebody who worked hard and achieved 490 will get 510 the year after. People forget that five points equals a whole grade jump. To get jut 15 points more you'd have to jump three grades. I just find it too risky, especially with the chance that the course could go up five or ten points. My course had gone up by 20 points.
Personally I think the job situation would indicate it's better to do an Arts degree if you can afford the fees for a PDE because an Arts degree would give you the option of working in another sector if teaching jobs really were non-existent.randylonghorn wrote: »The two year thing thing is more teaching council diktat than a choice by the universities.
You're right that colleges tend to continue to run courses while there is demand and funding. However, those conversion PGDips were set up during a time when we didn't have enough qualified teachers and partly on the back of encouragement / support from DES / HEA. Times have changed, and while these students pay their own fees anyway, if the HEA / DES decide to exclude these conversion courses from the FTE calculation for RGAM funding etc. (the other half of the funding mechanism) as tbh would be a logical decision at the moment, just watch how fast they will be discontinued.
Anyway, we're getting a wee bit off-topic here ...
Perhaps you're right although I can't see it happening myself. I imagine colleges might just hike up the fees further to cover the loss of funding if the demand is there. But yes we're getting off topic! 0 -
That is extremely unlikely. Very few people get upgraded in general and an even smaller amount get upgraded enough to become eligible to enter a higher preference course. Once someone is upgraded, the CAO Office notifies the HEIs immediately and the colleges then offer the course to the applicant.
It doesn't seem likely to me that the student is penalised for mistakes made on the part of the state examiners. If the student meets the minimum entry requirements they're entitled to a place in the same way a student who had the results on the day is.
Yes, in the grand scheme of things few people would be in this scenario (hence my saying it's an exaggerated example), but the problem remains the same: how are colleges meant to 'keep aside' a few places for them? It just doesn't work, because admissions officers cannot just create places from nothing, and equally they cannot report to higher authorities saying that a course has say 20 places, but then only offer 18 in case people are upgraded, and then have empty places. Speaking purely from anecdotal evidence, I know someone who was in this situation, and she was initially told she'd have to wait until the following year as the college knew they had x places, and they had been allocated through the CAO. She did get very lucky in that in mid-October someone did withdraw and she was offered a place. But otherwise, she was told she'd be guaranteed a place for next year, but would have to wait until then to begin. It is unfair as you say because the student evidently did have the grades, but just not 'on the day' so to speak, but it is unfortunately just how admissions work, especially with remarks coming back so late.
If someone was off by only a few points, I think repeating would be well worth considering. Having done the Leaving Certificate before and 'knowing the system' would only work to your advantage, especially as you can drop your least favourite subjects, such as Maths or English once you've got your pass in them, and really focus on the subjects likely to bring you high results.
But I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that particular issue 0 -
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