West Brom V Liverpool - Saturday 18th August 3:00pm

witnessrenegade

Well that was a depression session, all good and well having possession in the first half, did feck all with it! Carragher and Cole should never play again for us in the league, let them be the old heads in Cup matches when the 1st team need a rest

Cruel Sun

Liverpoolfc.com journalists' man of the match: Joe Allen

gaelicred

Oh well on to the next game

Jayob10

Cruel Sun wrote: »

Liverpoolfc.com journalists' man of the match: Joe Allen

his replacement (for 2m) at Swansea got off to a cracking start today.

applehunter

New season, same ol' ****.

The_Kew_Tour

Next week will be real test of where Liverpool are.

I expect Liverpool to respond.

markie29

anyone want to join me for a post match drink to drown our sorrows? ...i was so looking forward to this game but after the first goal went in the same feelings came back like i had last season.

Reina and Joe Allen the only ones who can hold their head high after that game...i know Suarez created chances but he never scored and that is his job to score goals.

Joe Cole i have no idea why he brought him on and the 2 minutes later he is injured yet again...that is more of a worse signing than Andy Carroll at least he tries to contribute.



sorry rant over ****ing pissed off.

BorneTobyWilde

gaelicred wrote: »

Oh well on to the next game

Who's that against ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, o wait,,,,,,,,,:(

Looks like we will have to fight our way up the table from the relegation zone this season, as i truly believe we will be stuck in it after the first 7 games,

osnola ibax

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Next week will be real test of where Liverpool are.

I expect Liverpool to respond.

With a press release saying sorry to the fans or some such, they are good at that alright

gaelicred

osnola ivax wrote: »

With a press release saying sorry to the fans or some such, they are good at that alright

They have been used to it to be fair

Outkast_IRE

MagicMarker wrote: »

You missed what happened after the foul?

yes the replay cut off when they both hit the ground

Oscorp

At least this came before the window closes. Yes, it may make Sahin even more reluctant to sign for us, but hopefully it will shatter any illusions that FSG/Rodgers may have about the current bunch and result in more activity in the market. Managers generally learn more about the character of the squad and certain players in defeat rather than victory, or so they say.

niallo27

Why did he take Lucas off, it was a shocking desicion unless he was injured, west brom just passed their way through the middle of the park after this, Gerrard need a kick up the arse as well, he showed no heart for the fight today.

gaelicred

How long will joe the donkey be out for

BINKY NIPPER

Today was some reality check for all pool fans

klose

gaelicred wrote: »

How long will joe the donkey be out for

As much as it is an awful thing to say, hopefully a long while, a good long while.

machiavellianme

gaelicred wrote: »

How long will joe the donkey be out for

Hopefully the season. Offered nothing when he was on. Ten yards behind the play at all times

gaelicred

There is no way we will get him out of the club:(

citytillidie

BINKY NIPPER wrote: »

Today was some reality check for all pool fans

What? lol

The_Kew_Tour

Would it be time to drop Gerrard? Or would that create its own problems?

Oscorp

Brendan Rodgers:

Penalty decisions were "very harsh."

"Gotta give players credit, they never stopped. Couldn't ask any more of them."

"Reality is we need to score more goals."

murpho999

BINKY NIPPER wrote: »

Today was some reality check for all pool fans

What are you on about?

We've been on a reality check since 1990.

murpho999

Important thing now is the reaction.

All well and good in pre-season, but Brendan Rodgers would have learnt an awful lot about his players today in terms of both their ability and attitude.

gaelicred

Oscorp wrote: »

Brendan Rodgers:

Penalty decisions were "very harsh."

"Gotta give players credit, they never stopped. Couldn't ask any more of them."

"Reality is we need to score more goals."

Well he couldn't say that we were gash

Grid.

Do the lads know it ain't pre-season anymore??

murpho999

niallo27 wrote: »

Why did he take Lucas off, it was a shocking desicion unless he was injured, west brom just passed their way through the middle of the park after this, Gerrard need a kick up the arse as well, he showed no heart for the fight today.

Probably took Lucas off as it's his first competitive match after a serious injury and was also on a yellow card.

cloptrop

Need a goal scorer badly . Suarez probably the only one with a bit of get up and go is being made look a fool there. The right full looked weak . Glen johnson shouldnt have bothered going forward.
Downing was invisible. Gerard wishes he was.
Borini had a few good moments and a few bad. Id say he will improve.
Rodgers needs support and time and someone to tell him to put suarez in the hole or on the right .
Carra needs to go to stud.
Id recomend getting chicorito on loan but dont think thatd happen.
Lukaku looks great cant understand why he wasnt in ahead of torres at chelsea yet.
I just hope they give br time and dont start a big we want him out campaign .
They did have 3 should be a goal chances and a few could be a goal chances and they were all pissed away .
Back to you eamon.

Columbia

citytillidie wrote: »

What? lol

He said today is a reality check for all Liverpool fans.

noodler

BINKY NIPPER wrote: »

Today was some reality check for all pool fans

What??

Have you been reading the Liverpool thread at all?

We don't need expectations checked.

noodler

Columbia wrote: »

He said today is a reality check for all Liverpool fans.

Oh, you need it explained?

Nobody is under any illusion.

gaelicred

So has anybody panicked and changed their FF team yet

LuckyLloyd

noodler wrote: »

What??

Have you been reading the Liverpool thread at all?

We don't need expectations checked.

Some do to be fair.

noodler

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Some do to be fair.

Ah don't be pedantic - his post said all Liverpool fans.

statss

"i'd recommend getting chicorito on loan but don't think that'd happen"

hilarious.

gaelicred

Right im going to watch the Toon v Spurs thank god i have a load of booze in the house after today

Grid.

Fair play to Steve Clarke all the same!

Columbia

noodler wrote: »

Ah don't be pedantic - his post said all Liverpool fans.

Yeah sorry you're right, it's not as if every single prediction at the start of this thread was for a Liverpool win, most of which mentioned 3, 4, 5 goals.

Luap

On the bright side the only way is up.

gaelicred

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

This is why I love Liverpool threads, heads buried in the sand since the 1980s

Not really i think we are fed up watching us play well against the big teams and playing awful against the smaller teams

citytillidie

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Some do to be fair.

Yea but he said all

gaelicred

Im an optomist and we cant play any worse than we did today i hope

Fowler87

gaelicred wrote: »

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

This is why I love Liverpool threads, heads buried in the sand since the 1980s

Not really i think we are fed up watching us play well against the big teams and playing awful against the smaller teams

I bloody hope this statement stands over the next few weeks

gaelicred

Fowler87 wrote: »

I bloody hope this statement stands over the next few weeks

From your lips to Gods ears mate

gaelicred

Rodgers has been saying all pre-season that there is a massive task ahead of him/them/us and he knows best having watched them train for a couple of weeks as well as no doubt all last season's games on video. Maybe some people didnt want to listen but they should now and mustnt be surprised. We have (in general) a sound defense, a midfield that struggles to move the ball at pace without losing it and doesnt move enough, no real options on the flanks and forwards whose chance conversion rate is around 5-8%. That is a fact from last season(s) and will not change overnight. Leaving aside some of the hysteria what did we really learn today ? If our defense has a mare we lose as cant compensate by scoring 2/3/4 at the other end; JC should be used very sparingly; the midfield is a WIP and Lucas is still coming back; out wide we have nothing yet and up front we cant finish for toffee. All is not negative - Allen will be a quality player for us, Lucas will get fitter, Borini will settle and Suarez cant miss a half dozen chances every game, Pepe looked back to himself. Surprisingly on the negative side Kelly looked awful and SG had a shocker (perhaps not a surprise after taking Dirky's mantle as chief 'we will get better' cheerleader, and saying he is up to the challenge). Not surprisingly Cole lasted 2 half sprints and Downing went awol.

I am not despondent and while this was a much worse result and performance than I expected, this is a tough league and teams like WBA are always going to be up for the challenge of perch knocking. We werent up to it today - I dont think the manager has changed his assessment of where he is at in terms of the project and where he needs to change/improve. This is not going to be an easy season for the club and realistically a closer challenge for a CL place was always the reality (for me anyway). Its not going to be an easy start to the season for BR but he does deserve better from some of his senior players - maybe Gerrard should just shut up and concentrate on playing - and I do believe he will improve the club. But it is going to take time - maybe some more realise this now. I think we will see a few more new faces come in before the close of the window - and a few out also.

As an aside I think Sterling has to be given a bench place for the next game.

Disappointed but not despondent.

Barr

Have to give credit to West Brom - their strike force options look really good.

gaelicred

Ok i have to ask but who was your MOTM im going with Allen considering he had to cover Stevie who was dire and Lucas who isnt match fit yet

LuckyLloyd

gaelicred wrote: »

Ok i have to ask but who was your MOTM im going with Allen considering he had to cover Stevie who was dire and Lucas who isnt match fit yet

Shane Long? Most definitely not a Liverpool player.

gaelicred

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Shane Long? Most definitely not a Liverpool player.

Fair enough can't argue with that

Luckycharms_74

1st Match thread of the season and nearly 650 posts. We really see which team has the best supporters

LuckyLloyd

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Shane Long? Most definitely not a Liverpool player.

He is Irish and like him in an Ireland shirt but damn he is a diving ba**ard. After watching the highlights in HD (as opposed to a crap stream) I saw no penalty in that game today. Dowd is a disgrace to humanity.

There was a free out given in the Newcastle game today where the attacker got between the defender and the ball on his blind side, correct decision and should have been the same in our game today imo. But no donkey Dowd somehow imagined a penalty.