Irelands greatest boxing family?

lefthook84

Who is the greatest Irish boxing family ever? And if u can choose a top 5.

jayroyal

There so many

Sutcliffes (Dublin)
Hylands (Dublin)
Magees (Belfast)
Joyces (cork)
Joyces (athy)
Dunnes (Dublin)
Collins (Dublin)
Stephens (Dublin)
McCormacks (Dublin)
Mcauleys (Belfast)

I'm sure there many more remind me

Tombo2001

The Christles.

lefthook84

jayroyal wrote: »

There so many

Sutcliffes (Dublin)
Hylands (Dublin)
Magees (Belfast)
Joyces (cork)
Joyces (athy)
Dunnes (Dublin)
Collins (Dublin)
Stephens (Dublin)
McCormacks (Dublin)
Mcauleys (Belfast)

I'm sure there many more remind me

Excellent knowledge there. Think also Storeys (belfast) and Nash (Derry). Who is the other Mcauley apart frm Dave boy?

barney4001

YEARS AGO THERE WAS THE MCCULLUGHS

Daroxtar

The Reynolds brothers -Sligo. 12 senior titles between them

bellybuster12

Fairly obv i would have thought!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQzYnbljZ9Y

lefthook84

Magee brothers = 15 Irish titles including 3 x senior titles, World junior silver, multi nations.

As professionals = 2 x Commonwealth champions, Irish champion, WBU World title. All 3 bros fought for European titles. Eamonn and Noel ranked in top 10 of WBC and WBO

Enough said

jayroyal

lefthook84 wrote: »

jayroyal wrote: »

There so many

Sutcliffes (Dublin)
Hylands (Dublin)
Magees (Belfast)
Joyces (cork)
Joyces (athy)
Dunnes (Dublin)
Collins (Dublin)
Stephens (Dublin)
McCormacks (Dublin)
Mcauleys (Belfast)

I'm sure there many more remind me

Excellent knowledge there. Think also Storeys (belfast) and Nash (Derry). Who is the other Mcauley apart frm Dave boy?

Eamon (coco) he has a great selection of fights on youtube from years ago

jayteecork

Francie Barrett and his family.

lefthook84

Im a big fan of this channel, some great fights on it.

terrymccarthy05

Beat this
Brendan McCarthy/ 6 times Irish champion.Irish international
Dermot McCarthy 3 times Irish champ. Irish international
Mick McCarthy Irish lightweigh champ. Irish international.
Terry McCarthy R/U Lightmiddle weigh Irish international
Paddy McCarthy Irish international.

lefthook84

That is very impressive but in order to b considered the greatest family ever there has to be success at both amateur and professional level. There are approx 80-100 irish titles up for grabs each year at differernt levels but to win a major pro title (british, commonwealth, european, world) it id much harder. Ireland r lucky to have 1-2 of these champs at any one time. At the mo we have maybe 2-3.

jayroyal

lefthook84 wrote: »

That is very impressive but in order to b considered the greatest family ever there has to be success at both amateur and professional level. There are approx 80-100 irish titles up for grabs each year at differernt levels but to win a major pro title (british, commonwealth, european, world) it id much harder. Ireland r lucky to have 1-2 of these champs at any one time. At the mo we have maybe 2-3.

Senior irish titles are alot harder to win at the moment than any pro belt other than the four world titles. FACT

lefthook84

jayroyal wrote: »

lefthook84 wrote: »

That is very impressive but in order to b considered the greatest family ever there has to be success at both amateur and professional level. There are approx 80-100 irish titles up for grabs each year at differernt levels but to win a major pro title (british, commonwealth, european, world) it id much harder. Ireland r lucky to have 1-2 of these champs at any one time. At the mo we have maybe 2-3.

Senior irish titles are alot harder to win at the moment than any pro belt other than the four world titles. FACT

Maybe in certain weights the senior title is as difficult to win e.g bantam, welter, light heavy as these are some of the best in europe but there is no way that winning an Irish senior title in other weights e.g heavy and super heavy is more difficult than winning a british, commonwealth or european heavyweight title as a pro. No way. Also u r guaranteed 10 senior champions every year however this is nt the case wit the pros. U have to take ur shot wen u get it ad u t nt guaranteed the chance 12 months later.

megadodge

lefthook84 wrote: »

Maybe in certain weights the senior title is as difficult to win e.g bantam, welter, light heavy as these are some of the best in europe but there is no way that winning an Irish senior title in other weights e.g heavy and super heavy is more difficult than winning a british, commonwealth or european heavyweight title as a pro. No way. Also u r guaranteed 10 senior champions every year however this is nt the case wit the pros. U have to take ur shot wen u get it ad u t nt guaranteed the chance 12 months later.

Yes, but in order to win an Irish Senior title you have to fight more than one fight (often as many as 4 or 5) and all of them are top notch. The same cannot be said for plenty of pro champs. Ray Moylette (the reigning European champion) couldn't even reach the Irish final this year.

lefthook84

megadodge wrote: »

lefthook84 wrote: »

Maybe in certain weights the senior title is as difficult to win e.g bantam, welter, light heavy as these are osome of the best in europe but there is no way that winning an Irish senior title in other weights e.g heavy and super heavy is more difficult than winning a british, commonwealth or european heavyweight title as a pro. No way. Also u r guaranteed 10 senior champions every year however this is nt the case wit the pros. U have to take ur shot wen u get it ad u t nt guaranteed the chance 12 months later.

Yes, but in order to win an Irish Senior title you have to fight more than one fight (often as many as 4 or 5) and all of them are top notch. The same cannot be said for plenty of pro champs. Ray Moylette (the reigning European champion) couldn't even reach the Irish final this year.

I understand that but that is nt the same for all irish senior titles for example there is no way it wud b easier for cathal mcmonagle to win the british/commonwealth titles than an irish senior title. Also to get to the point were u r fighting for major pro titles it takes up to 20-30 fights and years. Also there is no comparison between 3x3's at amateur level and 12x3's at pro level. Not saying the skill level in pros is better but dedication, fitness and balls is on another level when at the top level of pro game.

Danye

Would the Carruth's be worth a mention??

lefthook84

Danye wrote: »

Would the Carruth's be worth a mention??

I dont know much about anyone frm the family other than Michael. Wat have they achieved?

megadodge

lefthook84 wrote: »

I understand that but that is nt the same for all irish senior titles for example there is no way it wud b easier for cathal mcmonagle to win the british/commonwealth titles than an irish senior title. Also to get to the point were u r fighting for major pro titles it takes up to 20-30 fights and years. Also there is no comparison between 3x3's at amateur level and 12x3's at pro level. Not saying the skill level in pros is better but dedication, fitness and balls is on another level when at the top level of pro game.

It's the exact same to fight for a senior Irish title, it just doesn't happen overnight.

But don't worry I appreciate what you're saying about the differing qualities required for each game. I regard them as different sports and have often mentioned that here.

lefthook84

I also agree that they r different sports. Thats y i said earlier that the truly best fighters r those that have been successful in both the amateur and pro games. Because it shows the amount of talent and hard work it takes a fighter to adapt their style onto both formats.

terrymccarthy05

Brendan, Miick and Dermot won, Terry was R/U all on the same night.

lefthook84

Is this at senior level? And wat year?

terrymccarthy05

lefthook84 wrote: »

Is this at senior level? And wat year?

1967
Yes four in the finals of the Irish seniors. Brendad won a Bronze in the euros and boxed in the Mexico Olympics

lefthook84

Based on that, the mccarthys wud def b one of the greatest amateur families in Ireland.

Danye

lefthook84 wrote: »

I dont know much about anyone frm the family other than Michael. Wat have they achieved?

I wouldn't really know a whole lot about them either tbh as they seemed to be boxing long before my time.

I was always under the impression that Michael and his brothers had a few senior titles under their belt and obviously Michaels gold medal as well which is no mean feat.

I loosely remember being told a story that their father Austin was a boxer along with his wifes brothers. Not sure how accurate this is though??

Does anybody know anymore info about them?

terrymccarthy05

Danye wrote: »

Would the Carruth's be worth a mention??

Micheal was the only to win a senior title

Danye

terrymccarthy05 wrote: »

Micheal was the only to win a senior title

Really? I was always under the impression that a his brothers won a few as well.

Thanks for clearing that up.

megadodge

From my recollection the only Carruth to win a senior title was Michael.
I think two others won titles at other grades (open to correction).

drzhivago

Tombo2001 wrote: »

The Christles.

+1000
Middle
Light Heavy and heavy title on the same night in 1980

terrymccarthy05

drzhivago wrote: »

+1000
Middle
Light Heavy and heavy title on the same night in 1980[/QUOSS
Sorry not in the one night

section4

drzhivago wrote: »

+1000
Middle
Light Heavy and heavy title on the same night in 1980

I was there that night
Terry won 3 titles in a row at middleweight
And i think joe beat frank bruno in the amateurs

Are you sure it wasnt in the same night
I dont think the seniors were spread out to far then

Mel was supr heavy. Joe heavy and terry middle

Mick quelly won the light heavy title in 1980
I knew mick later on in london