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Firewood - How to get the best value in logs for firewood....

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ford2600
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    Brother ripped the thread for the sparkplug in the chainsaw


    Never give your chainsaw to anybody!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,099 cena
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    ford2600 wrote: »
    Brother ripped the thread for the sparkplug in the chainsaw


    Never give your chainsaw to anybody!

    It was our dads saw. Would it be costly to get repaired


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 TomOnBoard
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    Jack180570 wrote: »
    Hi sixpac... looked at the ad and it is selling logs at €25 a cubic meter but the calculations appear to be incorrect.
    Using a rough conversion of 30 cm = 1 ft the 8 x4 x 2 Iis approximately 1.7 m3 odd and when you convert to solid m3 it's just over 1 m3 of logs for €50...
    If you take that general calculation an comoare to a typical artic load which would contain around 30m3 it would equate to a price of approximately €1500... not particularly cheap Imho
    Hey Jack.. Got it the first time... Had a sense of Deja Vu, all over again, by the time I had read much further. ;-)

    On yer substantive issue, you're right of course. I've been there a good few times over the years. I normally have a sheet of paper with me that explains the difference between

    a) a loose, chopped and split cubic metre
    b) a log- consuming cubic metre
    c) a real cubic metre that adjusts for the proportion of the log stack that contain air vs wood. This requires a known technique and a physical sq metre form that is used, multiplied by the average log length....

    There are understood and accepted formulae that (on average) translate between the different measurements that anyone buying raw timber needs to know and be able to explain and negotiate with.

    In my experience, unfortunately, sellers simply don't want to consider these facts, and in 7 out of 10 cases, start a row where its not needed.

    Contrast this with the USA and other countries where firewood is classified in terms of volume, and the seller MUST sell to a state defined norm that covers volume AND moisture content....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,282 Nekarsulm
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    cena wrote: »
    It was our dads saw. Would it be costly to get repaired

    got my stihl 170 helicoiled for €15. Never a minutes trouble since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,099 cena
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    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    got my stihl 170 helicoiled for €15. Never a minutes trouble since.

    Where did you get that done. Great price.

    Ours is one of these


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,282 Nekarsulm
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    I got it done in "Cavan Quad & ATV Centre" Fellow called Fred Smith. A Stihl dealer. Any competent saw shop should be able to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,099 cena
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    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    I got it done in "Cavan Quad & ATV Centre" Fellow called Fred Smith. A Stihl dealer. Any competent saw shop should be able to do it.

    I got a quote along time ago for 50 euro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 Mycroft H
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    Ahhh I remember when I tightend the lawnmower spark plug when the engine was hot when I was a young lad. The aul fella spotted me and gave me a bollocking hahah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,282 Nekarsulm
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    Well I think 50 is a bit on the high side. I was surprised the lad was so reasonable, to be honest. When I left the saw in, he said " that's a job that needs to be done when there are no distractions going on, I'll do it after closing time".

    However, if you price a barrel for a big Stihl like yours, and factor in the time to get it delivered and fitted, perhaps 50 is cheap enough!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 cpg093
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    What would be a reasonable price for an 8x4x6 cattle trailer filled with lengths of spruce for firewood?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 locky76
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    cpg093 wrote: »
    What would be a reasonable price for an 8x4x6 cattle trailer filled with lengths of spruce for firewood?

    €80...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 Jack180570
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    where I live there lots fallen logs I just go in with my trailer to the woods and chain saw after about 40 minutes I have 3 months supply
    free

    is that not stealing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,578 An Ri rua
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    Jack180570 wrote: »
    is that not stealing?

    The Mods are aware of the post. I do know that in other forums, I and others have been pulled up for posts that allude to breaking the law, even when morally correct. e.g. self-defence.

    Maybe it is ok if no one sees you? And you convince yourself you're doing someone a thinning service...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 TomOnBoard
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    An Ri rua wrote: »
    Maybe it is ok if no one sees you? And you convince yourself you're doing someone a thinning service...

    Its never OK IMHO. Interpreting the law to suit oneself- where does the line get drawn? "Ah, yer man hasn't started that ould tractor he left in the field for years- Sure, I'll be doing him a favour if I bring it away..."

    Theft is theft.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,824 Qualitymark
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    Presumably if you ask the landowner if it's ok to take the wood, it's ok.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ford2600
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    Presumably if you ask the landowner if it's ok to take the wood, it's ok.

    Inviting Jor Bloggs onto your farm with a chainsaw is not clever


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    ford2600 wrote: »
    Inviting Jor Bloggs onto your farm with a chainsaw is not clever

    I don't know this Jor Bloggs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 Rovi
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    It should go without saying, but just for the record:
    There's no such thing as 'free' wood in this country.
    All land (both private and 'state') is 'owned' by someone, and all the trees and fallen timber on those lands are the property of the landowner.
    Even a tree fallen across the road remains the property (and responsibility) of the owner of the land on which it was growing.

    Unless the landowner has given explicit permission to access and remove the timber, entering lands and removing timber is both theft and trespass.

    And, all that's before we even approach the subjects of chainsaw operator qualifications, PPE, public/employers liability insurance, and who knows what else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 wayoutwest
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    Large Sally fell down in field near me recently. Went round to the landowners house and asked if I could have it for my stove.After several cups of tea and some nice homemade bread, it was decided that I could take it as long as I cleared up the small stuff and left his field tidy....and not be selling it on.This is how things are done in the countryside.
    365 and X27 sharpened and ready.Should get 5 cube of logs out of it that will give me 50 days heating for winter 2015.Just hope the ground dries out to give me access before it starts sprouting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,578 An Ri rua
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    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Its never OK IMHO. Interpreting the law to suit oneself- where does the line get drawn? "Ah, yer man hasn't started that ould tractor he left in the field for years- Sure, I'll be doing him a favour if I bring it away..."

    Theft is theft.

    Irony, Tom, irony...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 TomOnBoard
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    An Ri rua wrote: »
    Irony, Tom, irony...

    Sry- It went right over me head. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,099 cena
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    I had to go in on Thursday to the forest with dog for a walk. Just as we got in as tree had fallen down I went home to get the hand saw so I could cut the tree smaller so I could move it out of the way for the older people in the village.

    I know Collette don't go near the start area of the walk and it would just be left in the way of people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,109 Oldtree
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    cena wrote: »
    I had to go in on Thursday to the forest with dog for a walk. Just as we got in as tree had fallen down I went home to get the hand saw so I could cut the tree smaller so I could move it out of the way for the older people in the village.

    I know Collette don't go near the start area of the walk and it would just be left in the way of people
    The problem there is you are taking on the negligence, if anything happens to anybody subsequent to or during your works by your works. It would be best to leave it in place and inform coillte.

    I realise your intent was positive, and no doubt a benefit to your community, but you leave yourself open to risk in a litigious country, without any public liability insurance or permission for those works.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 SIX PACK
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    Cant argue with this 1 Cubiic Metre will yeild 25 bags of firewood & this is going for €20
    http://www.donedeal.ie/heating-for-sale/firewood-in-4-5-foot-lengths-20m/6227770


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 GY A1
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    SIX PACK wrote: »
    Cant argue with this 1 Cubiic Metre will yeild 25 bags of firewood & this is going for €20
    http://www.donedeal.ie/heating-for-sale/firewood-in-4-5-foot-lengths-20m/6227770

    Good idea for sawhorse too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 techfarmer


    Hi Jack living in Kildare near Naas have you timber for sale around now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 techfarmer


    living in Kildare near Naas do you have timber for sale around now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 Jack180570
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    techfarmer wrote: »
    Hi Jack living in Kildare near Naas have you timber for sale around now?

    Hi tech, nothing near you I'm sorry. ... still harvesting down in West Limerick. ..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 Reindeer
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    shanemc123 wrote: »
    Do u have logs for sale

    We do also, here near Clonmel/Kilsheelan. Green and also seasoned. We process it on our own estate. PM me with questions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 Reindeer
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    TTTT wrote: »
    Phone them.
    I did the CS 30 + 31 with Tree Care Ireland for €975 although you might only need CS 30 for cutting up firewood as CS31 is felling small (under 380mm) trees.

    I highly recommend TCI. Great guys.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,970 Glebee
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    On the look out for seasoned hardwood in Offaly if anybody has any pointers would appreciate...:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Dec the trucker


    Hey glebee.what part of offaly are you in? Pm me if you like.can get all the split ash you want.friend has a lot of ash so if your interested il give him a shout. I can deliever a 8x4 trailer load or a truck load.all split.


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