Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15 Mod Warning post #6011

RoryMac

Simple goal in the end, Griffith's very relieved after his pen miss

bobmalooka

Yes!!

Great finish from Griffiths

LuckyGent88

Lovely ball by johannsen and nice cushioned header

Dempsey

Absolute peach of a pass by Johansen

Griffiths was superb with the finish

A Dub in Glasgo

What a great header from Griffiths

Dempsey

Junior Football style brainfart from Guidetti!

TheCitizen

Pitch is in awful nick. One of the main reasons we are still level here.

Dempsey

TheCitizen wrote: »

Pitch is in awful nick. One of the main reasons we are still level here.

I dont see it as the reason but its certainly not helping either team, nowhere near Fir Park, aka "The Beach" days

A Dub in Glasgo

Guidetti has been poor

Dempsey

I wouldnt give Guidetti a contract of any description at this stage. What the fcuk has happened to him in the last few months

RoryMac

Really should have won that game, lacked a bit of quality up front to create and take the chances.

Dempsey

Fair result in the end, hopefully the replay will be all about the football and not the referees and the state of the pitch. Epic Drama though!

DUTD keeper, MOTM

TheCitizen

Dempsey wrote: »

I dont see it as the reason but its certainly not helping either team, nowhere near Fir Park, aka "The Beach" days

It's not the only reason but Celtic had about 80% possession I think a better pitch would've favoured Celtic. Stokes hit the post in the first half, I reckon the uneven pitch kept it out. Replay. Should win at Parkhead.

Dempsey

TheCitizen wrote: »

It's not the only reason but Celtic had about 80% possession I think a better pitch would've favoured Celtic. Stokes hit the post in the first half, I reckon the uneven pitch kept it out. Replay. Should win at Parkhead.

It would have favored us more but at the same time good teams adapt to the conditions they are given. The best never use it as an excuse

A Dub in Glasgo

Is the replay at Celtic Park?

Dempsey

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Is the replay at Celtic Park?

Surely, this match was at Tannadice. Is there a doubt?

A Dub in Glasgo

Yep, a doubt in my mind

I would not put it past the SFA though!

Dempsey

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Yep, a doubt in my mind

I would not put it past the SFA though!

They'd put it on the moon if they thought it increase their profit margin

Dempsey

Deila is pulling an Arsene Wenger

Safe to say that Commons career as a pundit wont take off!

Intifada

Robbed once again. Sick of Scottish football.

No point in retrospectively punishing Cifti for kicking Brown in the head, they'll just overturn it on appeal :rolleyes:

larrymiller

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

Hopefully Stokes will be off for the second half, contributed nothing positive in the first half.

H

eire4

Dempsey wrote: »

It would have favored us more but at the same time good teams adapt to the conditions they are given. The best never use it as an excuse

Tp be fair nobody at Celtic has been using it as an excuse. There is no question though that yesterdays game being played on a cabbage patch helped Dundee United as it made it very difficult for us to move the ball with real speed and accuracy. Hopefully Hampden is in good shape come Sunday so we can actually get the ball down and play and really have a go at Dundee United. Thankfully the 2 games after that are at least at Celtic Park.

Intifada

Stokes shot after Johansen slid the ball across was going in until it bounced off the cut up turf. Just because it's clichéd doesn't mean it can be any less of a legitimate reason for not getting a result. Inferior pitches help inferior teams. Even the Zombies admitted it was the reason we didn't smash them.

Intifada

Cifti has been banned for 2 games for kicking Brown in the head. Butcher didn't get anything for kneeing VVD in the balls though, and Connolly got away with his dive.

Can't say I'm too surprised. They were hardly going to admit that their #1 referee got that much wrong in one game.

eire4

Given Butcher got away with his actions and Paton's and Van Dijk's appeals are set for Thursday logic would suggest that both will have their red cards overturned. But I guess this is the SFA so maybe a 10 game suspension for Van Dijk instead! Certainly logic goes well out the window when its the SFA on the case.

bobmalooka

Am I the only one who thinks VVD deserved red?

Dempsey

bobmalooka wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks VVD deserved red?

Deserved a yellow imo, not a red. The only player that deserved a red was Ciftci

TheCitizen

bobmalooka wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks VVD deserved red?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1no4f8VoLM

VVD didn't connect with his opponents head with his boot. No I don't think he (Van Dijk) should've been sent off.

RoryMac

bobmalooka wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks VVD deserved red?

I thought it was borderline red, he tried to stamp on the DU player but didn't seem to make much contact. Due to it being so early in the game I think a yellow for him & the DU player with Cifti getting a red would have made sense

bobbysands81

bobmalooka wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks VVD deserved red?

I understand why he got it. He hasn't a hope of winning the appeal.

bobmalooka

TheCitizen wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1no4f8VoLM

VVD didn't connect with his opponents head with his boot. No I don't think he (Van Dijk) should've been sent off.

Why not? He kicked out at an opponent, what the ref missed doesn't change that.

bobmalooka

Dempsey wrote: »

Deserved a yellow imo, not a red. The only player that deserved a red was Ciftci

Thd players know that kicking out is a red even if in reality it only deserves a yellow. Ideally the ref should have the option to only give 2 yellows instead of reds for the tangle but he doesn't.

Browns tackle was beyond wild and should have been a red, Cifti should have got red and a long holiday - kicks to the head should get a huge ban in my opinion.

Intifada

Can you point out where VVD kicks Butcher. Not saying he doesn't, but I've watched it loads and can only see Butcher kneeing him in the bollocks.

Dempsey

bobmalooka wrote: »

Thd players know that kicking out is a red even if in reality it only deserves a yellow. Ideally the ref should have the option to only give 2 yellows instead of reds for the tangle but he doesn't.

Browns tackle was beyond wild and should have been a red, Cifti should have got red and a long holiday - kicks to the head should get a huge ban in my opinion.

The referee does have the option, I'd like to know what the linesman told him and how accurate it was. Remember that between the two of them they managed to send off the wrong player.

There was nothing wrong with Brown's tackle. He won the ball, it's still a contact sport the last time I checked!

Intifada

DUFC are appealing Cifti's ban. Some brass neck but after getting his last one overturned, which was even more blatant, can hardly blame them.

bobmalooka

Intifada wrote: »

Can you point out where VVD kicks Butcher. Not saying he doesn't, but I've watched it loads and can only see Butcher kneeing him in the bollocks.

At 38 seconds on the YouTube link thecitizen posted above VBD stamps out (just before he gets kneed)

It's stupid and soft but it's a red card offence

bobmalooka

Dempsey wrote: »

The referee does have the option, I'd like to know what the linesman told him and how accurate it was. Remember that between the two of them they managed to send off the wrong player.

There was nothing wrong with Brown's tackle. He won the ball, it's still a contact sport the last time I checked!

He had no option when payers kick each other - they identified the wrong DU player which is a farce,but when the linesman says he has seen them kick each other (I presume as that's whst happened on the floor) then the red has no choice.

Brown won the ball by leading two footed with studs up at pace - it's a wreckless type of challenge. He was lucky to not get pulled on it.

Intifada

bobmalooka wrote: »

At 38 seconds on the YouTube link thecitizen posted above VBD stamps out (just before he gets kneed)

It's stupid and soft but it's a red card offence

I see it now. Does look like a stamp, but it should be very easy to appeal against since his foot is so close to the ground anyway and there is no contact. Hopefully the fact Butcher has got away with doing much worse will mean they go easy on him. Unless they remember who he plays for...

Brown didn't go in with studs up btw. You can see here he has one foot on the turf, and his left boot has swung up after the tackle. He went in hard and could have got a booking, but the red card argument is only being given the light of day because of everything else.

Intifada

Think Stokes makes some valid points here re. the whole diving debate: http://sport.stv.tv/football/video/4105012779001/

Although I have seen him dive before!

Dempsey

bobmalooka wrote: »

He had no option when payers kick each other - they identified the wrong DU player which is a farce,but when the linesman says he has seen them kick each other (I presume as that's whst happened on the floor) then the red has no choice.

Brown won the ball by leading two footed with studs up at pace - it's a wreckless type of challenge. He was lucky to not get pulled on it.

You're making the assumption that the officials saw everything we saw from several replays. They certainly didn't.

TheBuilder

Van Dijk red card rescinded.

The world still against you lot?

Intifada

TheBuilder wrote: »

Van Dijk red card rescinded.

The world still against you lot?

Nope. Conclusive proof that there has never been decades of institutionalised bias against Celtic right there.

You're just paranoid timmy!

TheBuilder

Intifada wrote: »

Nope. Conclusive proof that there has never been decades of institutionalised bias against Celtic right there.

You're just paranoid timmy!

Institutionalised bias, aye okay mate.

In saying that, the SFA are clearly drunk this week, how can they possibly clear Ciftci?

Dempsey

TheBuilder wrote: »

Van Dijk red card rescinded.

The world still against you lot?

Them are the breaks when you have someone on the professional game board...

You can see it because your club has been doing it for decades.

Am I playing this game right?

Dempsey

In other news Stokes & Griffiths have agreed a retainer agreement with Ciftci to represent them in their legal affairs.

That chap must have awful dirt on someone in the SFA, thats the 2nd serious violent conduct charge that was washed away

bobmalooka

More a case of wanting the whole mess to go away me thinks

bobbysands81

TheBuilder wrote: »

Van Dijk red card rescinded.

The world still against you lot?

Conclusive proof that Peter Lawell directs the SFA and SPFL on what to do.

ColeTrain

I'm not sure what Scott Brown was playing at, there's pictures of him hammered on the front page of The Sun. You expect better from the captain days before a big game.

Intifada

ColeTrain wrote: »

I'm not sure what Scott Brown was playing at, there's pictures of him hammered on the front page of The Sun. You expect better from the captain days before a big game.

Aha the traditional slur story in the week of a big game for Celtic :pac:

Brown will most likely run the the game on Sunday.

ColeTrain

Intifada wrote: »

Aha the traditional slur story in the week of a big game for Celtic :pac:

Brown will most likely run the the game on Sunday.

It wouldn't have been printed if Brown hadn't decided to go on the tear days before a cup final.

He won't run the game if he's dropped and there's a strong chance he will be imo. Ronny is always preaching fitness and 'players being 24 hour athletes'.