Dublin v Mayo - SF Semi Final - Sun 2nd Sept 15:30 - RTE 2 HD

Fowler87

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Now that is interesting,.
It's really the first big day out for the likes of Keane and to a lesser extent Keegan and Boyle.
They will certainly need to be focused and on top of their game.
But they have good support back there with Higgins, Cafferkey and Vaughan.

Keane overall has been very good in the championship and the latter part of league but it did take a few games for him to settle. He was very poor against Laois and Down in the league and remember thinking he wouldn't make the championship panel. Wouldn't drop him now though as the full back line have a good understanding and are performing well bar a few ropey moments.

blackbelt

cgpg5 wrote: »

Good man Joe, Dublin by 7/8? And some great insight into how teams will play, line out players to watch etc. :rolleyes:

Laughable and lazy analysis.

Anybody getting upset over big Joes "prediction" should calm down.This is a Meath man talking about Dublin, take a pinch of salt, some lemon and tequila and chill. :cool:

blackbelt

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Wow Joe that's top class analysis
Mayo missing Andy Moran, Dublin have to up their game a gear, Mayo won the league game.

I could have written the same myself here, actually I did I think.

Lol you are getting excited because a Meath player makes a prediction that Dublin will win?We all know his opinion on what may transpire is completely irrelevent.

eddiem10

tipp1986 wrote: »

Joe Sheridan tips the Dubs to overcome Mayo by a big margin

http://www.livegaelic.com/the-joe-show/the-joe-show-meath-minors-in-all-ireland-final/

Back of the net Joe!!

Brain Stroking

Mergal wrote: »

It was also the year Cormac McAnallen died, it was a great side but definitely not playing up to their full potential that year, who could after such a tragic loss.

Maybe not, but still a far better team than Tyrone in 2011. I thought the Dubs played very well that day but they werent up against anything much looking at tyrone teams of the past 10 years.

Fr Tod Umptious

blackbelt wrote: »

Lol you are getting excited because a Meath player makes a prediction that Dublin will win?We all know his opinion on what may transpire is completely irrelevent.

It's not what he is predicting that excites me, it's just the lack of any real content in the article.

I would have no problem with anyone predicting a Dublin win, I am actually veering that way myself now, but at least give something more that just the usual, Dublin can step up a gear, Mayo are without Andy Moran etc.
Talk about the line ups, the match ups in various positions, the tactical approach that each manager should or should not take

But then again livegaelic.com may not be that kind of a publication, maybe they just grabbed Joe and asked him to put a few words down, if so then it means that his opinion is about as valid as anyone's here.

billyhead tips the Dubs to overcome Mayo by a big margin

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80483597&postcount=149

corny

Just some hope that the Dubs may have been sandbagging all along. Mickey Whelan "Last year we took a chance, we didn’t focus on Leinster, but we still won it because we’re a good enough team." Same thing this year?

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2012/0830/335546-mickey-whelan-confident-dublin-can-defeat-mayo/

TheNap

Whens the dublin team announced. Be interesting to see if Gilroy sticks by his 3 fellow clubmen in Connolly,Brennan and Fennell.

Rumour has it that Jack McCaffrey could be starting

Syferus

'Focus'? Dublin won two matches in Leinster as much by luck as skill. They were dead and buried at four down with only a few minutes left in the All-Ireland final were it not a wild pass from Darren O'. The less said about the Dublin-Donegal semi-final the better.

The question for Dublin has never just been skill, but desire. It's hard to make a case for Dublin being as hungry this year as last and whether it's Sunday or three weeks' time the sense I'm getting is that the pieces aren't falling into place the way they were last year.

AGC

TheNap wrote: »

Rumour has it that Jack McCaffrey could be starting

Very hard to believe that. he came out of no where the last day and if he does start him Gilroy would be taking a massive gamble.

He makes mad decisions at times such as the subs in the laois game but to start McCaffrey would be madness

Barlett

A few words from McDonald

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/3008121447-the-big-interview-ciaran-mcdonald/

Also if you want real analysis Action 81 is the place

http://www.action81.com/blog/

Syferus

Barlett wrote: »

A few words from McDonald

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/3008121447-the-big-interview-ciaran-mcdonald/

Also if you want real analysis Action 81 is the place

http://www.action81.com/blog/

:rolleyes:

Fr Tod Umptious

Barlett wrote: »

Also if you want real analysis Action 81 is the place

http://www.action81.com/blog/

Now that is what I was looking for, and it doesn't matter about the verdict either.

Proper analysis of the various key battles in the game, and how defences should be dealing with attacks etc, and how one team will win and another will not.

Out of interest how many of Emmets pre match predictions end up being correct , and have the games gone the way he has expected them too ?

Brain Stroking

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Now that is what I was looking for, and it doesn't matter about the verdict either.

Proper analysis of the various key battles in the game, and how defences should be dealing with attacks etc, and how one team will win and another will not.

Out of interest how many of Emmets pre match predictions end up being correct , and have the games gone the way he has expected them too ?

He predicted Donegal to sneak by Cork.

Barlett

Syferus wrote: »

Barlett wrote: »

A few words from McDonald

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/3008121447-the-big-interview-ciaran-mcdonald/

Also if you want real analysis Action 81 is the place

http://www.action81.com/blog/

:rolleyes:

What's with the eye rolling? I'm sorry but Ive yet to see any other publication break down a team tactical approach in a similar manner. If you know of one, I'm all ears

Always_Running

corny wrote: »

It was a game Dublin should have won.

Kerry were beating Tipp by 11 points in Munster championship they will also look back and say they should have won however like with Dublin in All Ireland final they were beaten by a better side.

Always_Running

Barlett wrote: »

A few words from McDonald

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/3008121447-the-big-interview-ciaran-mcdonald/

Also if you want real analysis Action 81 is the place

http://www.action81.com/blog/

The final piece on the blog isn't always true "The Connacht champions are the form team entering this match. Dublin are hoping to flick a switch and make things right in September. That doesn’t happen at this level. Mayo to win, by 3 or 4 points."

Take 2009 quarter final between Kerry v Dublin and to lesser degree Tyrone v Dublin last year. The flick of the switch did happen but if i were a Dub i would be hoping to peak for the final and just fall over the line on Sunday.

Brain Stroking

Always_Running wrote: »

The final piece on the blog isn't always true "The Connacht champions are the form team entering this match. Dublin are hoping to flick a switch and make things right in September. That doesn’t happen at this level. Mayo to win, by 3 or 4 points."

Take 2009 quarter final between Kerry v Dublin and to lesser degree Tyrone v Dublin last year. The flick of the switch did happen but if i were a Dub i would be hoping to peak for the final and just fall over the line on Sunday.

Loving this talk, can only suit Mayo. Today's Irish Times has a piece on one of the Dub players (Cian O'Sullivan) and another on Mickey Whelan. No piece on Mayo. Perfect

Fr Tod Umptious

Always_Running wrote: »

The final piece on the blog isn't always true "The Connacht champions are the form team entering this match. Dublin are hoping to flick a switch and make things right in September. That doesn’t happen at this level. Mayo to win, by 3 or 4 points."

Take 2009 quarter final between Kerry v Dublin and to lesser degree Tyrone v Dublin last year. The flick of the switch did happen but if i were a Dub i would be hoping to peak for the final and just fall over the line on Sunday.

Big difference between Kerry 09 and Dublin today
Kerry were a better team, and were coming back off a 2008 loss to Tyrone, and hunger is something Kerry do mush better than most.

A fan suggesting that they do not peak on Sunday and leave it for the final is one thing and a bit silly to be honest, but I doubt any players or management are thinking that way

Brain Stroking wrote: »

Loving this talk, can only suit Mayo. Today's Irish Times has a piece on one of the Dub players (Cian O'Sullivan) and another on Mickey Whelan. No piece on Mayo. Perfect

They will tomorrow, they just spread out their coverage, that's all.

Brain Stroking

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Big difference between Kerry 09 and Dublin today
Kerry were a better team, and were coming back off a 2008 loss to Tyrone, and hunger is something Kerry do mush better than most.

A fan suggesting that they do not peak on Sunday and leave it for the final is one thing and a bit silly to be honest, but I doubt any players or management are thinking that way



They will tomorrow, they just spread out their coverage, that's all.

Nooooooooooooooooooo. We're doomed. The hype will kill us. * flashback to John Maughan getting on a plane in bermuda shorts * nooooooooooooooo

corny

Always_Running wrote: »

Kerry were beating Tipp by 11 points in Munster championship they will also look back and say they should have won however like with Dublin in All Ireland final they were beaten by a better side.

When you allow a man run 45 yards unopposed for the first goal, don't defend a simple long ball for the second and your keeper basically hands the deciding goal to the opposition you say to yourself we left that one behind. I couldn't care less about Kerry or Galway, the goals kept Tipp competitive and they were soft goals from a Dublin perspective.

blowitupref

Looking like a sell out after all.

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=176458

Just An Opinion

This game really needs to happen NOW!!! I've heard and read every possible opinion at this stage, some very interesting some just plain ludicrous.

Roll on 3:30 Sunday and get this show on the road, it's been a long 4 weeks, and will probably be a longer 70 minutes...if that makes sense!

tipp86

Lads just in response to the Joe criticism it is meant more as a weekly column than an indepth view of each game.

Here is our match review feel free to comment

http://www.livegaelic.com/news/dublin-v-mayo-all-ireland-semi-final-preview/

Emmet Ryan

Thanks for the responses lads. I get plenty of picks wrong, Sligo over Kildare was a notably bad one.

gaelic cowboy

Emmet Ryan wrote: »

Thanks for the responses lads. I get plenty of picks wrong, Sligo over Kildare was a notably bad one.

Well I think everyone was surprised at how bad Sligo set themselves up for that one.

Attacking against the wind and then defending when they had it.

padd b1975

Brain Stroking wrote: »

Nooooooooooooooooooo. We're doomed. The hype will kill us. * flashback to John Maughan getting on a plane in bermuda shorts * nooooooooooooooo

*flashback to John Maughan policing the sideline in short shorts* noooooooooo

eddiem10

padd b1975 wrote: »

*flashback to John Maughan policing the sideline in short shorts* noooooooooo

*flashback to John Maughan policing the sideline in short shorts in 97 not knowing what changes to make* noooooooooo

forfcksake

Saw a tweet earlier today but can't for the life of me find it, it was giving out about the prices for the match with the canal end €80 & hill €40?! Is this true?

Joekers

forfcksake wrote: »

Saw a tweet earlier today but can't for the life of me find it, it was giving out about the prices for the match with the canal end €80 & hill €40?! Is this true?

No hill is 25 and stand is 40

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

forfcksake wrote: »

Saw a tweet earlier today but can't for the life of me find it, it was giving out about the prices for the match with the canal end €80 & hill €40?! Is this true?

Must have been for the hurling final, those are the prices on AI final day only.

Brain Stroking

eddiem10 wrote: »

*flashback to John Maughan policing the sideline in short shorts in 97 not knowing what changes to make* noooooooooo

* flashback to Dermot Flanagan coming off injured and 12 positional changes to accomodate the substitution nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo "

MaroonAndGreen

The closer the game gets.. im feeling less confident for Mayo.

Dublin's forwards are alot better than ours, no getting away from it.

Its been said too much, but Andy is some loss

Justin10

Just seen Dublins starting 15. Very confident now of a 4+ point win

MaroonAndGreen

Rochey18 wrote: »

Just seen Dublins starting 15. Very confident now of a 4+ point win

what is it?

Justin10

Phily loses out to Ger, Alan starts at centre forward with Dermot in corner forward.

Still going with the 3 man midfield.

MaroonAndGreen

Alan Brogan fit

Justin10

From what I heard he was been training all along, could be wrong on that.

MaroonAndGreen

Dublin by 4+ could be a very good prediction..

corny

Rochey18 wrote: »

Phily loses out to Ger, Alan starts at centre forward with Dermot in corner forward.

Still going with the 3 man midfield.

The tried and trusted then so. Fennell for Cahill is the only change in personnel from last years final.

Syferus

I think people forget Dublin had Alan Brogan for most of two of the last three games where they struggled mightily. He's good to have but not the nail in any coffin. This Dublin team runs through Paul Flynn much more than Brogan now anyways.

Sunnyisland

Just An Opinion wrote: »

This game really needs to happen NOW!!! I've heard and read every possible opinion at this stage, some very interesting some just plain ludicrous.

Roll on 3:30 Sunday and get this show on the road, it's been a long 4 weeks, and will probably be a longer 70 minutes...if that makes sense!

100%

Sunnyisland

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

The closer the game gets.. im feeling less confident for Mayo.

Dublin's forwards are alot better than ours, no getting away from it.

Its been said too much, but Andy is some loss

Andy who ? ;);););););)

Trampas

Dublin (SF V Mayo): Stephen Cluxton; Michael Fitzsimons, Rory O'Carroll, Cian O'Sullivan; James McCarthy, Ger Brennan, Kevin Nolan; Eamon Fennell, Denis Bastick; Paul Flynn, Michael Darragh Macauley, Bryan Cullen; Alan Brogan, Diarmuid Connolly, Bernard Brogan.

Fr Tod Umptious

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

The closer the game gets.. im feeling less confident for Mayo.

Dublin's forwards are alot better than ours, no getting away from it.

Its been said too much, but Andy is some loss

Beginning to think that way too I'm afraid.
the concern is the Mayo forwards who in reality are poor, and they really struggled against the only team that werre any way defensively good and that was Sligo.

I just hope that they can somehow get an early lead and then hold on to it by just keeping the score ticking over, while at the same time our good backs restrict Dublin, who will be loosing faith as the game progresses.

Al lot will have to go right for Mayo on Sunday.

Brain Stroking

Trampas wrote: »

Dublin (SF V Mayo): Stephen Cluxton; Michael Fitzsimons, Rory O'Carroll, Cian O'Sullivan; James McCarthy, Ger Brennan, Kevin Nolan; Eamon Fennell, Denis Bastick; Paul Flynn, Michael Darragh Macauley, Bryan Cullen; Alan Brogan, Diarmuid Connolly, Bernard Brogan.

A better team than the Mayo 15 no doubt but Brennan is a weak link at centre back imo and also i would play Alan Brogan further out the field (may probably happen anyway if McAuley drops deeper) as Bernard does better with alan further out giving him the ball in. A tough afternoon for the Mayo defence but one i think they are capable of pulling off.

My worry is the Mayo attack. It is obviously weakened without Moran but i dont feel Varley is a good choice. I understand we destroyed the Dublin midfield in the league and Horan wants to keep it intact but O'Shea really should have been moved into the forwards in my opinion and Gibbons brought in midfield. O'Shea on Ger Brennan would have been perfect as O'Shea isnt the quickest when running back towards his own goal and that is something he might have to do a lot against the Dublin midfield.

dcr22B

Brain Stroking wrote: »

A better team than the Mayo 15 no doubt but Brennan is a weak link at centre back imo and also i would play Alan Brogan further out the field (may probably happen anyway if McAuley drops deeper) as Bernard does better with alan further out giving him the ball in. A tough afternoon for the Mayo defence but one i think they are capable of pulling off.

Alan will play at 11 and Ger is only perceived as a weak link when teams run at us. His distribution is fantastic though and his presence has given me more confidence ahead of Sunday.

Still think it'll be a lot tighter than some people think.

Brain Stroking

dcr22B wrote: »

Alan will play at 11 and Ger is only perceived as a weak link when teams run at us. His distribution is fantastic though and his presence has given me more confidence ahead of Sunday.

Still think it'll be a lot tighter than some people think.

Alan may have his own problems to deal with too as Donal Vaughan is always attacking from centre back. If Brogan doesnt follow him then it could potentially open things up for Mayo going through the middle and running at Brennan.

I dont rate Brennan at all to be honest

DoctaDee

dcr22B wrote: »

Alan will play at 11 and Ger is only perceived as a weak link when teams run at us. His distribution is fantastic though and his presence has given me more confidence ahead of Sunday.

Still think it'll be a lot tighter than some people think.

+1 on Ger, furthermore it allows Kevin Nolan play wing back which is a far greater outlet from defence and attacking option - as previously stated it's near enough the AI team from last year - the only change that i would have liked to see was Cahill in for Cullen who I don't think is operating like last year- if they're beaten Sunday I certainly wouldn't offer any excuses

Tom Joad

Was struggling to call a winner until I seen the Dublin team being announced - Gilroy again has made all the right calls - I presume MDMCauley will play as the 3rd midfielder. Ger Brennan back in is the right call too. Never would trust Eoghan O'Gara in a big match so Connolly is the right call there too.

Dublin could win by 8/9 points if they get off to a good start and don't switch off - won't happen so will say Dublin by 3 points without being devastatingly brilliant. Donegal will be massive favourites for final which will suit Dublin down to the ground.