'Enough is Enough' - Lance Armstrong

buffalo

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RobFowl wrote: »

Lads/Lasses lets get back to the important issues....


Will i tape the interview or watch it live (not going to pretend I'm going to avoid it).


And much more importantly is it one for Leffe, Hoogardeen, duval, Red wine or else go native and have a Boston pale, Brooklyn lager or sell my soul and watch it with a Bud.....

It's 2am Irish time, right? Perfect if I can't sleep tonight! \o/

RobFowl

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buffalo wrote: »

It's 2am Irish time, right? Perfect if I can't sleep tonight! \o/

Every time he says cancer down a shot....

Glass Prison 1214

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buffalo wrote: »

It's 2am Irish time, right? Perfect if I can't sleep tonight! \o/

Do you know if it will be on tv or will I have to stream it?

RobFowl

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Glass Prison 1214 wrote: »

Do you know if it will it be on tv or will I have to stream it?

Don't watch it on an illegal stream, Oprah and discovery channell won't be able to make lots of money from the interview then.....

fat bloke

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RobFowl wrote: »

Lads/Lasses lets get back to the important issues....


Will i tape the interview or watch it live (not going to pretend I'm going to avoid it).


And much more importantly is it one for Leffe, Hoogardeen, duval, Red wine or else go native and have a Boston pale, Brooklyn lager or sell my soul and watch it with a Bud.....

If you're not on your turbo, drowned in sweat, gnashing your teeth, pounding out the watts, then you're doing it wrong.

Fr D Maugire

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T-K-O wrote: »

:rolleyes:

ill informed? He was a cheat and he abused his power, what am I missing. I've said this on numerous occasions.

If someone doesn't like an opinion they usually revert to the good old troll comment.

I didn't answer the last question because I clearly stated my point of view, no point rising to a loaded question like that.

You have a narrow minded view on drugs in sport, it almost sounds personal. The hate for Lance is strong and that IMO prevents you from having an adult conversation on the matter.

How do I have narrow minded view on drugs on sport exactly? I take a dim view on an individual who would actively use a illness that affects millions of people around the world as part of his strategic plan to cheat his way to victory. That sets him apart from all other dopers.


You have singularly failed to explain or clarify your point and clearly I am not the only person who feels that way. Maybe someone else can try to clarify your point for you. You offer nothing in the way of examples or comparisons to flesh out your theory whatever it may be. When asked what your big picture idea you refuse to answer. You don't even try to discredit any examples I give. Then you claim I cannot debate like an adult. Really, well in a debate people usually put forward their facts and figures to back up their opinion but you refuse to do that.

Why is Lance being treated unfairly?? In comparison to who and please don't say 'other athletes'. What other athletes? His contemporaries Ullrich? Basso? Valverde? Virenque? who.

iregk

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Let's open a book. I'm betting Oprah will introduce him similar to this: Welcome to the show a supreme athlete, a man who came back from his own cancer to dominate his sport and is now doing more in that fight against cancer than any other living human through his now legendary livesteong foundation, proud devoted father and alround great guy, Mr Lance Armstrong everybody.

Capt'n Midnight

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RobFowl wrote: »

Don't watch it on an illegal stream, Oprah and discovery channell won't be able to make lots of money from the interview then.....

http://www.oprah.com/pressroom/Lance-Armstrong-on-Oprahs-Next-Chapter

Armstrong will address the alleged doping scandal, years of accusations of cheating, and charges of lying about the use of performance-enhancing drugs throughout his storied cycling career.

The special 90-minute episode of Oprah's Next Chapter will air Thursday, January 17, from 9 to 10:30 p.m. ET/PT on OWN: The Oprah Winfrey Network. In addition, the interview will be simultaneously streamed LIVE worldwide on Oprah.com.
...
he U.S. Anti-Doping Agency released an extensive report accusing the renowned cyclist of doping throughout his career.

It'll be "fair and balanced"

Capt'n Midnight

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mcgratheoin wrote: »

Holy Crap - just read this bit of it...

"A truth that went overlooked in the debate over those samples is that in at least two samples, 100 percent of the protein isoforms in Armstrong’s electrophoresis gels were consistent with synthetic EPO. That means that he had taken so much EPO for long enough that his body basically shut down its own production; it didn’t even register on the test."

That was my reaction when I saw it too.

I'd doubt Lances' supporters would be able to explain it other than question the evidence.

colm_gti

25/1 odds on his book being included in her book club, that's too good for me to resist putting a 10er on! Worst case scenario I'll be down a 10er and will have wasted 90 minutes of my life!

CaoimH_in

Let's be realistic. They have their questions and answers written out already. This will be a performance piece. I'm not staying up until 2am, I'm going to bed early to go cycling early the next day. According to my plans, I'll be doing a strong ride 100k ride with sprint intervals. I'm not talking about this bloke any longer. Whatever will happen, will happen. The future of my sport will be even better than anything before. Let's keep thinking happy thoughts.

LeftBlank

buffalo wrote: »

It's 2am Irish time, right? Perfect if I can't sleep tonight! \o/

It's not on until next week...

DeadMan1

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buffalo wrote: »

It's 2am Irish time, right? Perfect if I can't sleep tonight! \o/

just in case ... it's next Thursday, not tonight!

T-K-O

Fr D Maugire wrote: »

How do I have narrow minded view on drugs on sport exactly? I take a dim view on an individual who would actively use a illness that affects millions of people around the world as part of his strategic plan to cheat his way to victory. That sets him apart from all other dopers.


You have singularly failed to explain or clarify your point and clearly I am not the only person who feels that way. Maybe someone else can try to clarify your point for you. You offer nothing in the way of examples or comparisons to flesh out your theory whatever it may be. When asked what your big picture idea you refuse to answer. You don't even try to discredit any examples I give. Then you claim I cannot debate like an adult. Really, well in a debate people usually put forward their facts and figures to back up their opinion but you refuse to do that.

Why is Lance being treated unfairly?? In comparison to who and please don't say 'other athletes'. What other athletes? His contemporaries Ullrich? Basso? Valverde? Virenque? who.

And round and round we go.. Did I say he was treated unfairly, please feel free to search the thread and correct me if Im wrong

I believe I said that the authorities put an extra effort in to catch the guy and I would appreciate that extra effort throughout sport.

and i'll quote YOU

' I see nothing wrong with a little extra effort being applied to catch such an individual. Why should the fact the had cancer mean that he should get away it.'



What are you even talking about now. You have an major chip on your shoulder with Armstrong, get over it.

G-Money

Anyone know if this is being shown on Sky/TV here at all?

furiousox

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Apparently it's being filmed in his ranch in Austin, not in front of a studio audience.
(Sorry, carry on D Maguire & TKO)

ROK ON

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RobFowl wrote: »

Lads/Lasses lets get back to the important issues....


Will i tape the interview or watch it live (not going to pretend I'm going to avoid it).


And much more importantly is it one for Leffe, Hoogardeen, duval, Red wine or else go native and have a Boston pale, Brooklyn lager or sell my soul and watch it with a Bud.....

Dude - Michelob Ultra.

G2ECE

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T-K-O wrote: »

Obviously I agree.

This post is common sense. We all know what the guy did, no need for another history lesson. However to completely dismiss the possibly that he raised the profile of the sport etc, is ridiculous and /or to accuse people of defending him for stating such a view, well Im at a loss

The problem I have with that is he did it under a false pretense and then went on to destroy the careers of some of those that questioned him while using Livestrong and Cancer awareness as his rationale. Hark back to the Tour of California press conference with Kimmage, that is a bully of epic proportions at work, one very nasty person. He did that in public, can you imagine what he was like behind closed doors???

Weirdview

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Say what you like about Lance but he knows how to fold a tee shirt.

http://tiny.cc/oztpqw

Beasty

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@Fr D Maugire and T-K-O

Leave it there please - no more challenging each other's position. I'm not banning either of you from the thread at this time, but equally I'm not going to allow you to keep batting this backwards and forward between the pair of you

In addition, there must be no more accusations of trolling, no telling anyone to "get over it" etc. If either of you have a problem with any post report it, do not respond in-thread. If you require any further clarification, PM me - again there is to be no discussion of modding matters or mod instructions in-thread

Thanks

Beasty

Lusk Doyle

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RobFowl wrote: »

Lads/Lasses lets get back to the important issues....


Will i tape the interview or watch it live (not going to pretend I'm going to avoid it).


And much more importantly is it one for Leffe, Hoogardeen, duval, Red wine or else go native and have a Boston pale, Brooklyn lager or sell my soul and watch it with a Bud.....

To really do it justice you should watch it while hooked up to an intravenous drip that is hanging on a picture hook that used to play host to a picture of you and your fans...

buffalo

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LeftBlank wrote: »

It's not on until next week...

ah balls. Thanks for the heads-up!

happytramp

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Anyone have a link for the 60min with travis tygart last night? Can't find it anywhere.

Cienciano

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happytramp wrote: »

Anyone have a link for the 60min with travis tygart last night? Can't find it anywhere.

Came on to post the exact same thing. It might take a few more days to appear somewhere

Beasty

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Cienciano wrote: »

Came on to post the exact same thing. It might take a few more days to appear somewhere

It's not on until tonight (or more accurately the early hours of tomorrow morning our time)

Last night's clip was just a taster.

nilhg

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It gets "better", UCI ordered WADA to explain the way the EPO test worked to Armstrong,

http://www.outsideonline.com/news-from-the-field/Tygart-WADA-Helped-Armstrong-Beat-EPO-Tests.html

T-K-O

G2ECE wrote: »

The problem I have with that is he did it under a false pretense and then went on to destroy the careers of some of those that questioned him while using Livestrong and Cancer awareness as his rationale. Hark back to the Tour of California press conference with Kimmage, that is a bully of epic proportions at work, one very nasty person. He did that in public, can you imagine what he was like behind closed doors???

Just a few things, I dont really care that he raised money or potentially raised the profile of the sport under false pretences. It still happened.

Him slapping Kimmage down at the press conference, that was wrong but TBH Kimmage in the role of a reporter, he's a big boy he can take it.

I could only imagine what happened behind closed doors and especially to the likes of the irish masseuse. Those stories IMO are far worse

buffalo

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buffalo wrote: »

ah balls. Thanks for the heads-up!

Dammit, I knew I'd still be up. Curse you Lance!

alfalad

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Think the interview has been aired but can't find out on any news sites if he has confessed!:mad:

h2005

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alfalad wrote: »

Think the interview has been aired but can't find out on any news sites if he has confessed!:mad:

I thought the interview with Lance is next thursday. The Travis Tygart interview aired last night I believe.