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FAS STATE PENSION HOW IT COSTS ON THE WELFARE BILL..

  • 25-08-2012 8:20pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭


    A little known fact is that FAS state paid supervisors and other management types get a STATE PAID PENSION,for life,how this impacts on the social welfare bill has largely been over looked.With people struggling on 188 per week and the price of goods it is hard to say cut cut cut again,should we really be looking at the junkets some heads of board who have paid themselves handsome salaries..


    When you look at the function of FAS,it really only provides measly work,with no follow up plan of how to go about getting a job after there is no connection point between the cessation of a ce scheme and finding actual work.

    These slave labour schemes have only served to hog up what could have been a paid job advertised,ie they are job blockers,what company will turn around and start hiring paid staff with FAS/JOBBRIDGE in the way?

    Given the negative impact FAS has on the jobs market and the local economy wouldnt it be worth scrapping seeming it has no postive function to serve the community and given the high social welfare bill due to state pensions?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    FAS is now called SOLAS


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Yes and no.

    /thread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    FAS / Solas should have been completely overhauled around 2006, back when illiterate, 15 year olds could get jobs as brick layers at 12 euros an hour. Instead, their budget was increased. Da fuq?!? :confused:

    Yes it needs reform. There are illiterate ex brick layers on the dole who know that. How to reform it, without it costing more money is being thought about and will happen, but it takes time. If you have ideas, write to or email your local TD.

    Or start a new thread on Boards.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    Whats worse is they are keeping job bridge,joan burton says it works!!How exactly by crowding jobs out of the market and adding extra burden to the SW bill..The state has to pay 50 per appliacant and salary up the wages of those management types,who exploit(unpaid by the company involved) intern workers,it doesnt guarantee you a job at the end of internship,most of these companies that sign up and dont pay workers a penny are not going to suddenly turn around and start paying you..

    1.Its an expense to the social welfare bill,and 2. has a negative impact on the jobs market,by way of displacing hogging up/blocking what could have been a paid job available..So it is an added expense to government,as they have no job tax coming back to them..


    What i would like to see is that how many people on boards are actually aware that those on job bridge and FAS get paid a state pension even after the FAS thing is wrapped up and merged into job bridge they will still be paid a state pension,and those who continue to ''work'' in job bridge will be paid a wage courtesy of ''social protection''..

    These jobs nullify any chance of anybody struggling in ireland to find a job,they displace jobs and block them out of the market - this is a serious issue also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,280 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    syklops wrote: »
    FAS / Solas should have been completely overhauled around 2006, back when illiterate, 15 year olds could get jobs as brick layers at 12 euros an hour. Instead, their budget was increased. Da fuq?!? :confused:

    Yes it needs reform. There are illiterate ex brick layers on the dole who know that. How to reform it, without it costing more money is being thought about and will happen, but it takes time. If you have ideas, write to or email your local TD.

    Or start a new thread on Boards.
    It should have been scrapped entirely in order to clear the decks. Far too many utterly useless staff in FÁS that could have been taken off the state's payroll had we closed it instead of merely trying to re-brand a ****e service.

    New name, same people will result in the same output: lots of pointless courses being done by people who are, for the most part, doing them only to avoid being kicked out of the social welfare safety net.


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