Arrest at Pat Rabbitte lunch

juice1304

Did any of yous watch the full video the lad that got aressted was'nt the one shouting his head off.:mad: he did'nt do anything.

Biggins

RoundyMooney wrote: »

Why didn't you credit the person who filmed it, or the Times article you cut and pasted into the video description?

...Because simply I forgot to do it in my hurrying to get a number of other things done at home (having four young kids will do that when they are running mad indoors on a bad day - roll on Thursday and they are back to school!).
However I'm grateful that you pointed this out and its been corrected.

fasttalkerchat

juice1304 wrote: »

Did any of yous watch the full video the lad that got aressted was'nt the one shouting his head off.:mad: he did'nt do anything.

I heard people saying that but wasn't sure if they had totally the wrong fella of just not the main one.

humberklog

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

But he would have to have committed an offence. Possibly they asked him to leave as he was annoying other guests and he refused but that wasn't in the video so it would be interesting to see.

He wouldn't need to be committing an offence and he was annoying to a guest- pat rabitte.

Lapin

Golda Meir wrote: »

Haha thanks for that OP. The video gave me a laugh. We should make life as miserable as possible for all our politicians. These pigs claim thousands of euro of our tax money in expenses, on top of their ridiculous wages. (Enda Kenny earns more than Obama? Um hello??) We are paying for their 4 course meals, their holidays to Barbados, even their double quilted luxurious toilet paper with which they wipe their pampered arses! Politicians are the scum of the earth. Be sure to shout abuse at them every time you seem them cross the street.

Have you ever considered a career as a speech writer ?

eth0

I hate to say it but the odd bit of a hassling would do these lads like Pat Rabbitte, Phil Hogan and the likes no harm. Politicians are far enough detached from reality these days and well isolated from the general public who will suffer the consequences of their unpopular decisions.

So if a lad breaks in and shouts a bit abuse at him while he's having a meal, or a ****, or whatever else he might be doing in that hotel that's no harm because it will remind him that not everyone is living the great life he's living.

When you're well looked after and have a good job like these lads its very easy to forget that it's not like that for everyone. Before their first wages gets transferred in their account they've already thrown the pre election promises out the window and are saying "ah sure another bit of tax, will do em no harm, they'll buy the 535d next year instead"

fasttalkerchat

humberklog wrote: »

He wouldn't need to be committing an offence and he was annoying to a guest- pat rabitte.

You can't just get the police to arrest someone as a favour or whatever... there has to be a purpose.

policarp

Pat Rabbite isn't very well liked in Wicklow.
Union me harse. . .

Smidge

He didn't even stop stuffing his face during that:mad:


It really has become a case of "Oh dear Lord, will this rabble please be quiet, you really are disturbing my lunch my good fellow. I say, can somebody take this, this "person" away?. Ah yes, jolly good, a Guard. I would be obliged if you would remove him and if not him anyone else remotely like him away while I finish up here. Good stuff eh"

On a side not:
Does anyone know if there have been successful lawsuits for wrongful arrest in this country?

Annasopra

policarp wrote: »

Pat Rabbite isn't very well liked in Wicklow.
Union me harse. . .

Thats about 40 years ago now

fishy fishy

Lapin wrote: »

No.

If more and more people did what this man did, the politicians will simply have their lunch in the comfort of Leinster House out of sight from the general public.

Then nobody would be able to confront them.

At least let the man have his feckin dinner first.

Freedom of speech is fine when used properly but basic manners are more important.

some people can't afford dinners in this country.

fishy fishy

my main question is is

are teacups in Ireland getting a lot smaller, or are our politician fat cats just getting bigger.

Biggins

fishy fishy wrote: »

my main question is is

are teacups in Ireland getting a lot smaller, or are our politician fat cats just getting bigger.

A lot them soon get larger it could be argued.
I suppose two bars and one restaurant in the Dail building alone would aid that.

...And just on the subject of food:

Earlier this month a Freedom of Information request by the Evening Herald revealed politicians left behind a bar and restaurant bill of €65,000 this summer. The majority of the money related to bills run up at the Oireachtas restaurant where members left an outstanding sum of over €54,000.

http://www.thejournal.ie/bar-and-restaurant-tabs-574079-Aug2012/

qwert2

Rabbite is a self righteous ****

tayto lover

fishy fishy wrote: »

some people can't afford dinners in this country.

Pat was probably eating a free dinner anyway. Those lads don't pay.

geeky

My favourite bit of the video was yer one off screen chiming in and trying to whip up the other diners.

Seriously, though, why would anyone sane bedoing this? It's counter-productive to scream abuse at anyone while they're having lunch. It reinforces their view that the people who disagree with them are nutters. Moreover, Pat Rabbitte is hardly going to wilt under pressure and say 'you're right, I'm so sorry, my life is a lie - I'm going to tell the IMF and bondholders to f*** off, then go hang meself'.

Min

Pat Rabbitte was on radio yesterday implying certain sections of society shouldn't be going to local or national representatives on issues he disagrees with them on. That it is regressive to give certain sections of society a hearing.

Well he is from the communist wing of the Labour party.

tayto lover

geeky wrote: »

My favourite bit of the video was yer one off screen chiming in and trying to whip up the other diners.

Seriously, though, why would anyone sane bedoing this? It's counter-productive to scream abuse at anyone while they're having lunch. It reinforces their view that the people who disagree with them are nutters. Moreover, Pat Rabbitte is hardly going to wilt under pressure and say 'you're right, I'm so sorry, my life is a lie - I'm going to tell the IMF and bondholders to f*** off, then go hang meself'.

The man was upset for the reasons he related. I bet not too many of Rabbitte's friends committed suicide over money issues.

Son Of A Vidic

28064212 wrote: »

Shouting abuse at someone having their lunch is free speech now?

Actually yes it is, I didn't hear any personal abuse or insults in that clip. The man didn't physically threaten the muppet he was addressing. The muppet in the seat is well used to shouting down opponents in the Dáil everyday. And we aren't just talking about 'someone' here, we are talking about a power hungry hypocrite, his posturing quickly stopped upon entering government. Him and his fellow clowns have done FF proud, by meekly facilitating our shafting. No surprise at all that the gormless idiot just sat there and continued to stuff himself.

phil1nj

policarp wrote: »

Pat Rabbite isn't very well liked in Wicklow.
.

So you could say he was in the wrong borough:D



........I'll get me coat

anncoates

What exactly was Rabbitte supposed to say to the nutter?

mikemac1

policarp wrote: »

Pat Rabbite isn't very well liked in Wicklow.
Union me harse. . .

mango salsa wrote: »

Thats about 40 years ago now

What happened in Wicklow?

squod

I lol'ed. Awaiting a mash-up or remix........

Min

anncoates wrote: »

What exactly was Rabbitte supposed to say to the nutter?

"you want some food?


"Because I would rather stuff my face when I hear of four suicides a day than to hear of anyone under the rule of this government would even want to commit suicide"

"Are you sure you got your facts, right?"

"People love this government and are having even more babies under our rule, even if we want less of them"

"...and the Germans love us"

tayto lover

anncoates wrote: »

What exactly was Rabbitte supposed to say to the nutter?

Lettuce have peace ?

Badly Drunk Boy

Lapin wrote: »

No.

At least let the man have his feckin dinner first.

Freedom of speech is fine when used properly but basic manners are more important.

Typical!! One (French) rabbit defending another Rabbitte!

SIR PEADO BAILOUT

I`d like to cordially invite Pat Rat**** to lunch and arrest him for being an ugly cnut,any issue with that ?

mikemac1

I don't like people using suicide as a way to argue their points

He does it there
The taximen do it a lot also

Emotional blackmail, what are you supposed to say realy if someone brings it up?

Biggins

mikemac1 wrote: »

I don't like people using suicide as a way to argue their points

He does it there
The taximen do it a lot also

Emotional blackmail, what are you supposed to say realy if someone brings it up?

"I'm sorry that it happens and I wouldn't wish it on anyone or their family.
Its not for me to conjecture on people that do it - I've probably never been in their exact unfortunate tough situation."

fishy fishy

mikemac1 wrote: »

I don't like people using suicide as a way to argue their points

He does it there
The taximen do it a lot also

Emotional blackmail, what are you supposed to say realy if someone brings it up?

i think it was that dumbo ahearn that started doing that. :mad:

SlaneyCider

mikemac1 wrote: »

I don't like people using suicide as a way to argue their points

He does it there
The taximen do it a lot also

Emotional blackmail, what are you supposed to say realy if someone brings it up?

http://www.thejournal.ie/sharp-increase-in-suicide-rate-is-linked-to-recession-experts-479033-Jun2012/
Its a viable argument, facts are facts and i've witnessed it personally. They couldnt give 2 flyin fúcks, its only statistics and numbers to them, this is whats happening in every town and village in Ireland

BigBrownBear

FFS politicians are there to be challenged and confronted peacefully by the electorate.
But they also entitled to have a lunch break and unwind for an hour or so.
I'm accountable to my supervisor, as politicians are accountable to the electorate.
But if my supervisor started pulling me up on my break I'd be straight to HR.
There's a time and a place

Lawrence1895

Stinicker wrote: »

Misguided man, why dosen't ho go and annoy Bertie Ahern or some other Fianna Failer who were the ones who bankrupted Ireland and caused all this mess.

Rabbitte is man who calls it like it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARfQEjBl1oo

They are not in government any more, they have their meals at home, where nobody can find them. So you can only annoy the current government who is still not able to get the country out of the mess, but rather carries on like the old government

28064212

SlaneyCider wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/sharp-increase-in-suicide-rate-is-linked-to-recession-experts-479033-Jun2012/
Its a viable argument, facts are facts and i've witnessed it personally. They couldnt give 2 flyin fúcks, its only statistics and numbers to them, this is whats happening in every town and village in Ireland

And randomly shouting the stats at the Minister for Communications is going to help people, is it?

seamus

SlaneyCider wrote: »

Its a viable argument, facts are facts and i've witnessed it personally. They couldnt give 2 flyin fúcks, its only statistics and numbers to them, this is whats happening in every town and village in Ireland

How is it a viable argument? What in the thundering fnck do you expect the current government to do about people killing themselves due to the economic situation? There isn't a big pot of money they can dip into, to suddenly stop people's businesses from failing and their jobs from being lost.

It has to be just numbers and figures, otherwise you make stupid emotive decisions like building a major hospital in Kenmare.

Blaming the government for every suicide is just emotive nonsense. It doesn't serve any purpose. When things go down the ****ter, people will kill themselves. It's not a nice thing, but it happens. And hey, look, we're in the ****ter. But how do you expect him to respond? "Oh, yeah, sorry about that, I'll get right onto fixing it".

As far as I can tell from the guy's rant, he's just ranting for the sake of ranting instead of actually telling the minister what he thinks the government are doing wrong. "People are dying" and "I lost my farm", are meaningless. The guy thinks he's making a difference, but he's not. He's just ranting.

Do you think the government are unaware of how people feel? Do you think that until this man decided to vent his spleen that the minister thought that everything was rosy and happy?

Lawrence1895

seamus wrote: »

How is it a viable argument? What in the thundering fnck do you expect the current government to do about people killing themselves due to the economic situation? There isn't a big pot of money they can dip into, to suddenly stop people's businesses from failing and their jobs from being lost.

It has to be just numbers and figures, otherwise you make stupid emotive decisions like building a major hospital in Kenmare.

Blaming the government for every suicide is just emotive nonsense. It doesn't serve any purpose. When things go down the ****ter, people will kill themselves. It's not a nice thing, but it happens. And hey, look, we're in the ****ter. But how do you expect him to respond? "Oh, yeah, sorry about that, I'll get right onto fixing it".

As far as I can tell from the guy's rant, he's just ranting for the sake of ranting instead of actually telling the minister what he thinks the government are doing wrong. "People are dying" and "I lost my farm", are meaningless. The guy thinks he's making a difference, but he's not. He's just ranting.

Do you think the government are unaware of how people feel? Do you think that until this man decided to vent his spleen that the minister thought that everything was rosy and happy?

Maybe they are, but they still give a toss. Once you have your fat ministerial salary, you are well off, whereas almost everyone else is hit by wage cuts, price hikes, tax hikes, etc.

But acting like a clown like that man won't help either.

fishy fishy

BigBrownBear wrote: »

FFS politicians are there to be challenged and confronted peacefully by the electorate.
But they also entitled to have a lunch break and unwind for an hour or so.
I'm accountable to my supervisor, as politicians are accountable to the electorate.
But if my supervisor started pulling me up on my break I'd be straight to HR.
There's a time and a place

the difference is the YOU are working for YOUR SUPERVISOR

these pack of numpties are supposed to be working for US, THE PEOPLE

Instead, all they seem to do is get fatter by the day - and they have no real interest in the people - they only seem to have interest in their money, pension, etc. biding time till they get it.

Biggins

Summed up, here is my thoughts, short version.

1. The meal should not have been interrupted in the way it was.
2. The first man having a go at Rabbit did have some very valid points and I feel justified in being angry over some of them. His timing unfortunate.
3. No one is doing themselves any long or even short term favours and/or advancing their position by acting in a manner that frankly denigrates their overall argument/points.
4. Rabbit should have at least told someone that the wrong man was being arrested. He should have spoke up on that.
5. I acknowledge that no matter what Rabbit might have said to the man, a long argument might have ensued, in which that neither side would really be listening to the other and the forum for those discussions was possibly inappropriate and impracticable anyway.
5. Legally, the first man could be at least charged with possibly causing a breach of the peace.

SlaneyCider

seamus wrote: »

How is it a viable argument? What in the thundering fnck do you expect the current government to do about people killing themselves due to the economic situation? There isn't a big pot of money they can dip into, to suddenly stop people's businesses from failing and their jobs from being lost.

It has to be just numbers and figures, otherwise you make stupid emotive decisions like building a major hospital in Kenmare.

Blaming the government for every suicide is just emotive nonsense. It doesn't serve any purpose. When things go down the ****ter, people will kill themselves. It's not a nice thing, but it happens. And hey, look, we're in the ****ter. But how do you expect him to respond? "Oh, yeah, sorry about that, I'll get right onto fixing it".

As far as I can tell from the guy's rant, he's just ranting for the sake of ranting instead of actually telling the minister what he thinks the government are doing wrong. "People are dying" and "I lost my farm", are meaningless. The guy thinks he's making a difference, but he's not. He's just ranting.

Do you think the government are unaware of how people feel? Do you think that until this man decided to vent his spleen that the minister thought that everything was rosy and happy?

For starters people foolishly voted them in on false promises, they claim to be a 'party of the workers', while they back right-wings cuts in the most unecessary places, hittin the most vulnerable. The man is venting his anger at the people at the top, which he rightly should, we're all fuming with the state of this government. You might say, theres ways and means of going about it, but what options do we have, people are not hitting the street in mass protests.
They should have pulled out of the IMF/EU/ECB bail out immediatly soon as they got into gov. Instances of depression will soar as long as it takes to pay the greedy fat capitalist pigs back while young families are struggling to survive on the breadline, literally
Obviously they aint showing much compassion

seamus

Ah, I see. You just don't really have a clue at all about how international agreements work and the reality of managing a country.

It's all about screwing over the "capitalist pigs" and thinking about the children, isn't it?

The argument that this government have backtracked on their manifestos is a fallacy. There have been a few unfifilled and failed promises, as one would expect of any elected official, but as far as I can tell most people are actually angry at themselves because they were silly enough to think that a new government would be capable of fixing the country overnight.

When they're told it'll actually take a few years and a whole lot of pain, they get angry even though it was as plain as the nose on their face that there was no other way to proceed.

Lapin

fishy fishy wrote: »

some people can't afford dinners in this country.

Maybe not but good manners cost nothing.

I don't see the point in your response by the way.

tayto lover

seamus wrote: »

How is it a viable argument? What in the thundering fnck do you expect the current government to do about people killing themselves due to the economic situation? There isn't a big pot of money they can dip into, to suddenly stop people's businesses from failing and their jobs from being lost.

It has to be just numbers and figures, otherwise you make stupid emotive decisions like building a major hospital in Kenmare.

Blaming the government for every suicide is just emotive nonsense. It doesn't serve any purpose. When things go down the ****ter, people will kill themselves. It's not a nice thing, but it happens. And hey, look, we're in the ****ter. But how do you expect him to respond? "Oh, yeah, sorry about that, I'll get right onto fixing it".

As far as I can tell from the guy's rant, he's just ranting for the sake of ranting instead of actually telling the minister what he thinks the government are doing wrong. "People are dying" and "I lost my farm", are meaningless. The guy thinks he's making a difference, but he's not. He's just ranting.

Do you think the government are unaware of how people feel? Do you think that until this man decided to vent his spleen that the minister thought that everything was rosy and happy?

I heard he felt great after it though.

tayto lover

Biggins wrote: »

Summed up, here is my thoughts, short version.

1. The meal should not have been interrupted in the way it was.
2. The first man having a go at Rabbit did have some very valid points and I feel justified in being angry over some of them. His timing unfortunate.
3. No one is doing themselves any long or even short term favours and/or advancing their position by acting in a manner that frankly denigrates their overall argument/points.
4. Rabbit should have at least told someone that the wrong man was being arrested. He should have spoke up on that.
5. I acknowledge that no matter what Rabbit might have said to the man, a long argument might have ensued, in which that neither side would really be listening to the other and the forum for those discussions was possibly inappropriate and impracticable anyway.
5. Legally, the first man could be at least charged with possibly causing a breach of the peace.

I would have loved to have been there to have witnessed it but i don't think i could have afforded it.
No sympathy for him at all. He used every opportunity in his time to have a go at people to win points.

MagicSean

Biggins wrote: »

:cool:

Well it was me that put it there on Youtube!

Do you have the unedited footage?

fishy fishy

Lapin wrote: »

Maybe not but good manners cost nothing.

I don't see the point in your response by the way.

that's okay. I'm sure others do.

SlaneyCider

seamus wrote: »

Ah, I see. You just don't really have a clue at all about how international agreements work and the reality of managing a country.

It's all about screwing over the "capitalist pigs" and thinking about the children, isn't it?

The argument that this government have backtracked on their manifestos is a fallacy. There have been a few unfifilled and failed promises, as one would expect of any elected official, but as far as I can tell most people are actually angry at themselves because they were silly enough to think that a new government would be capable of fixing the country overnight.

When they're told it'll actually take a few years and a whole lot of pain, they get angry even though it was as plain as the nose on their face that there was no other way to proceed.

When you have 2 kids like meself to raise, obviously it is! Its the middle and upper classes interests they're accomodating. I cant even get on a FAS course to earn an extra 50euro on top of my social, im hitting a brick wall everywhere i go like everyone else. Im angry at the people who were so stupid to vote them in aswell.
What promises have been fulfilled??

Biggins

MagicSean wrote: »

Do you have the unedited footage?

Only what was provided to The Times (England) and passed onto the public.

Who are these people who cant afford dinner in Ireland? Spending the dole etc on non necessities is the only way you could starve in ireland.. Unless you spend 30 euro a day on food

MagicSean

Biggins wrote: »

Only what was provided to The Times (England) and passed onto the public.

I'm sure it'll never see the light of day.

westendgirlie

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

Who are these people who cant afford dinner in Ireland? Spending the dole etc on non necessities is the only way you could starve in ireland.. Unless you spend 30 euro a day on food

Or working people who have been robbing Peter to pay Paul. I think you will find that many working people can not afford to eat out.