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Bannasidhe

Speaking of Lucinda

From an open letter by Angela Coraccio

You mention that we live in a “free” society here in Ireland while simultaneously trying to argue that women shouldn’t be allowed to have bodily autonomy, which in my opinion is the most basic human right there is.

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/05/09/dear-lucinda/?fb_action_ids=10200528121058093&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%2210200528121058093%22%3A644135298945340%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210200528121058093%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D

Morag

http://www.imt.ie/news/latest-news/2013/05/gps-pass-abortion-motions.html

The doctors for choice motions which failed at the IMO convention will be put to the Irish College of General Practitioners.

GCU Flexible Demeanour

Morag wrote: »

http://www.imt.ie/news/latest-news/2013/05/gps-pass-abortion-motions.html

The doctors for choice motions which failed at the IMO convention will be put to the Irish College of General Practitioners.

There's something about Doctors for Spoof that's just downright wrong.

“The motions came up before the Cork City Faculty of the ICGP three weeks ago and they were all passed by a large majority. They were passed by 32-to-10 votes, 35-to-11 votes… that type of thing,” Dr Favier commented.

That type of thing? WTF does that mean?

Turtwig

GCU Flexible Demeanour wrote: »

There's something about Doctors for Spoof that's just downright wrong.That type of thing? WTF does that mean?

It's Cork, like, don't expect stuff spoken down there to make sense.

The following may or may not help.

Obliq

Not helping, but thanks for the head wreck :P

Bannasidhe

Jernal wrote: »

It's Cork, like, don't expect stuff spoken down there to make sense.

The following may or may not help.

I don't understand what the problem is like.

Obliq

Bannasidhe wrote: »

I don't understand what the problem is like.

Ah bhoi Bann :P

Bannasidhe

Obliq wrote: »

Ah bhoi Bann :P

Chalk it down girl!

*pedant* And it's bhai *pedant*

Obliq

Damn my Clare accent....:(

Corkfeen

Despite my username, I feel like an outcast from Corkonian slang and culture... Don't even have the accent Perhaps that is a good thing...

Bannasidhe

Corkfeen wrote: »

Despite my username, I feel like an outcast from Corkonian slang and culture...

I must admit that as a south-sider born, bred and rared I have great difficulty in understand a word my North sider brother-in-law says - this may be the reason we get on very well.

Sarky

Living on the north bank of the river, I am treated daily to northsiders walking past my sitting-room window and chatting in what I can only assume is some kind of binary chatter combined with a musical.

Bannasidhe

Sarky wrote: »

Living on the north bank of the river, I am treated daily to northsiders walking past my sitting-room window and chatting in what I can only assume is some kind of binary chatter combined with a musical.

OH is from county Cork...sometimes not a word spoken by either of us is understood by the other...

Although my vowel sounds have been modified by years of living in the UK and having appeared on the BBC where one is permitted a hint of a regional accent but just a hint. I call it the Yew-Cee-Cee accent.

Delirium

Morag wrote: »

http://www.imt.ie/news/latest-news/2013/05/gps-pass-abortion-motions.html

The doctors for choice motions which failed at the IMO convention will be put to the Irish College of General Practitioners.

via Broadsheet.ie

The Cork GP Faculty of the ICGP (Irish College of General Practitioners) has unanimously voted in favour of all three abortion motions defeated only last month at the IMO’s AGM, Irish Medical Times has learned. The Faculty is now proposing them at the ICGP AGM this weekend in Galway and is confident of getting them passed. Cork GP Dr Mary Favier, who is a founding member of reproductive rights campaigning organisation Doctors for Choice, last week told IMT that the Faculty was proposing roughly the same three motions debated at the IMO AGM.

Turtwig

koth wrote: »

via Broadsheet.ie

What would be the odds of this not being headline news like the IMO one was?
Edit : (Assuming they pass in Galway.)

Delirium

Jernal wrote: »

What would be the odds of this not being headline news like the IMO one was?

Damn liberal bias!! :rolleyes:

Sarky

Guess my dad was right. The IMO really doesn't speak for most medical professionals in the country. I wonder if he was also right in describing them as a "useless pack of shaggin' ****."

Corkfeen

Bannasidhe wrote: »

I must admit that as a south-sider born, bred and rared I have great difficulty in understand a word my North sider brother-in-law says - this may be the reason we get on very well.

Sarky wrote: »

Living on the north bank of the river, I am treated daily to northsiders walking past my sitting-room window and chatting in what I can only assume is some kind of binary chatter combined with a musical.

I initially thought ye were developing a contemporary version of 'The Banks of My Only Lovely Lee'. But now i'm just reading your posts in tune with the below video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBe0VCso0qs

Sarky

You leave the Cuckoo's Nest charter where it is!

mohawk

Jernal wrote: »

It's Cork, like, don't expect stuff spoken down there to make sense.

The following may or may not help.

I am allergic after reading that

GCU Flexible Demeanour

Jernal wrote: »

It's Cork, like, don't expect stuff spoken down there to make sense.

The following may or may not help.

It might, but I think that the gap in the figures mean we're more in the realms of quantum mechanics. Let's look at that story again

http://www.imt.ie/news/latest-news/2013/05/gps-pass-abortion-motions.html#

The Cork GP Faculty of the ICGP has unanimously voted in favour of all three abortion motions defeated only last month at the IMO’s AGM, Irish Medical Times has learned.<...>

“The motions came up before the Cork City Faculty of the ICGP three weeks ago and they were all passed by a large majority. They were passed by 32-to-10 votes, 35-to-11 votes… that type of thing,” Dr Favier commented.

I've a feeling it might be more like Watership Down, where the rabbits can't cope with any number larger than four and refer to any quantity of five and over as "hrair".

Turtwig

GCU Flexible Demeanour wrote: »

It might, but I think that the gap in the figures mean we're more in the realms of quantum mechanics. Let's look at that story againI've a feeling it might be more like Watership Down, where the rabbits can't cope with any number larger than four and refer to any quantity of five and over as "hrair".

I'm not sure what your point is here. The author of the IMT piece isn't affiliated with Doctor for Choice (as far as I know).
The quotation is basically of someone recalling a set of statistics. Quite a difficult feat to do.

So, poor choice of words maybe but some people associate unanimous colloquially with majority consent. "Irregardless" should illustrate the point.

Loafing Oaf

loveisdivine wrote: »

I take this as her saying that she is confident she will get her own way and the legislation will be changed to suit them. Then she can vote yes on it.

The legislation is as it was always going to be and won't be changed significantly at committee. I see this as Lucinda finally emerging victorious from her long and very public wrestling match with her conscience.

eyescreamcone

I see Cardinal Sean O'Malley (of the Boston fairytaleists) has said he will boycott the Boston College graduation because Taoiseach Enda Kenny will be addressing the graduates.

Boo-bloody-hoo!!!

GCU Flexible Demeanour

Jernal wrote: »

I'm not sure what your point is here. The author of the IMT piece isn't affiliated with Doctor for Choice (as far as I know).
The quotation is basically of someone recalling a set of statistics. Quite a difficult feat to do.

So, poor choice of words maybe but some people associate unanimous colloquially with majority consent. "Irregardless" should illustrate the point.

Similarly, I can remember Mrs Slocombe on "Are You Being Served" confidently asserting "I am unanimous in this", if she was trying to dig her heels in.

All I'm really doing is drawing attention to obvious flaws in the story. You're right, the journo may be the one who is "unanimous" about the whole topic. For my own point, I think the journo did (an unconscious) service by reporting the airy, Father Tedish, "that type of thing".

For my own part, I'd expect that getting 30 GPs to agree to something in Cork is probably an achievement. In all seriousness, while I've no idea how many GPs practice in Cork City, it can't be more than 100. So it would actually be quite a significant proportion of the total number.

It's probably about the same as the proportion of Irish psychiatrists who agree that abortion isn't really a treatment for suicide. And, sure, wouldn't we extend the same magnanimity in excusing any huffing and puffing expended in bringing that finding to public attention.

Bannasidhe

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

The legislation is as it was always going to be and won't be changed significantly at committee. I see this as Lucinda's pension finally emerging victorious from her long and very public wrestling match with her conscience.

Fixed that for ya.

Bannasidhe

GCU Flexible Demeanour wrote: »

Similarly, I can remember Mrs Slocombe on "Are You Being Served" confidently asserting "I am unanimous in this", if she was trying to dig her heels in.

All I'm really doing is drawing attention to obvious flaws in the story. You're right, the journo may be the one who is "unanimous" about the whole topic. For my own point, I think the journo did (an unconscious) service by reporting the airy, Father Tedish, "that type of thing".

For my own part, I'd expect that getting 30 GPs to agree to something in Cork is probably an achievement. In all seriousness, while I've no idea how many GPs practice in Cork City, it can't be more than 100. So it would actually be quite a significant proportion of the total number.

It's probably about the same as the proportion of Irish psychiatrists who agree that abortion isn't really a treatment for suicide. And, sure, wouldn't we extend the same magnanimity in excusing any huffing and puffing expended in bringing that finding to public attention.

*Engage pedant alert* There are at least 109 practices -some of which will have more than one GP *pedant alert over*
http://www.whatclinic.com/doctors/ireland/county-cork/cork

Galvasean

koth wrote: »

via Broadsheet.ie

From the comments:
"Maybe the ICGP managed to avoid last minute registrations of phantom members that would vanish a couple of days later."

Really shows up how much of a farce that IMO vote was.

Turtwig

Galvasean wrote: »

From the comments:
"Maybe the ICGP managed to avoid last minute registrations of phantom members that would vanish a couple of days later."

Really shows up how much of a farce that IMO vote was.

Like a certain survey of psychiatrists. . .

HurtLocker

Can I ask why the title includes "Bob marleys view on religion"?