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2 Irish Attacked By Hammer In Aus

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  • #52
    holystungun9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    R.I.P. to David Greene who has died in hospital. I have to say I am curious to know why The Irish Independent (the website, at least) has chosen the picture they have of the victim. It seems to be a very Facebook/party night out photo. Maybe the family have suggested it, I don't know. I know lots of people like to remember those who have passed with a happy picture showing the person in their prime, or having a good time etc., but I find it a little odd when it is the press that uses those kind of pictures (again, maybe some are okayed by family).

    I know where we are (AH) as I searched for this thread before I started another so I know where it may descend to. I don't intend it to go that way, the poor chap has died in horrible circumstances but I would like to hear others opinions on the style of picture used by the Indo.


  • #53
    abacus120
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭abacus120


    R.I.P Dave,you will be missed,never a quiet moment when you were around,such a waste of a life that was being lived to the max,sleep well my friend.


  • #54
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,523 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    indo wrote:
    David Byas (30), also from Dublin, who was also seriously injured, was discharged from hospital earlier this week.
    :eek:
    I went to school with him


  • #55
    marcsignal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    R.I.P.


  • #56
    goodie2shoes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭goodie2shoes


    RIP.

    can't help but feel the anti-Irish racism that pervades Australia didn't play some part in this dreadful attack. very sad.


  • #57
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    RIP.

    can't help but feel the anti-Irish racism that pervades Australia didn't play some part in this dreadful attack. very sad.

    Theres no evidence of that whatsoever.


  • #58
    goodie2shoes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭goodie2shoes


    Nodin wrote: »
    Theres no evidence of that whatsoever.

    there is no evidence that it was not!


  • #59
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    there is no evidence that it was not!

    ....dear jesus spare me.

    To make an assertion, you have to have some evidence. Wheres yours?


  • #60
    goodie2shoes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭goodie2shoes


    idiots like this guy need very little encouragement. a febrile atmosphere of xenophobia, fueled by right-wing politicians and radio show hosts would more than provide him with enough.

    lose words cost lives.


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  • #61
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    .............idiots like this guy need very little encouragement. a febrile atmosphere of xenophobia, fueled by right-wing politicians and radio show hosts would more than provide him with enough.
    lose words cost lives.

    Really? Doesn't seem to have held you back at all.
    i'm not saying there are no Irish singing-on. of course there are, and many of them are scammers too.

    but youl'd be hard pressed to hear them above all the foreign accents.

    i asked the girl behind the counter was that day a special/designated day for foreigners to sign-on? she looked at me like i was mad and said no it was like this all the time.

    sorry if the truth doesn't go down too well
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=80035673
    ..........take a walk down to your local Post Office any signing-on day, and you'll be lucky to hear an Irish accent.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80035279&postcount=79

    Wheres your evidence that killing was linked to anti-irish xenophobia?


  • #62
    goodie2shoes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭goodie2shoes


    i am not a politician nor am i a host of a radio show.
    i am a private citizen with personal views and opinions.
    i doubt aspiring murderers will be influenced by my opinions on boards.ie, then again you seem to be very exercised by them?!!!!!:eek:


  • #63
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,508 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Please hammer don't hurt 'em


  • #64
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    i am not a politician nor am i a host of a radio show.
    i am a private citizen with personal views and opinions.
    ......

    ..which you're expressing on a public forum, thus possibly contributing to - as you put it - "a febrile atmosphere of xenophobia". And didn't you also say "idiots like this guy need very little encouragement"?

    And again - where is your evidence that the "anti-Irish racism that pervades Australia" had some bearing on this attack?

    Better yet, wheres your evidence that anti-Irish racism pervades Australia?


  • #65
    Praetorian Saighdiuir
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    I knew of Davy, drank with him a few times. My girlfriend knew him since they were 4.

    Terrible way to go out. R.I.P


  • #66
    2ndcoming
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    Nodin wrote: »
    ..which you're expressing on a public forum, thus possibly contributing to - as you put it - "a febrile atmosphere of xenophobia". And didn't you also say "idiots like this guy need very little encouragement"?

    And again - where is your evidence that the "anti-Irish racism that pervades Australia" had some bearing on this attack?

    Better yet, wheres your evidence that anti-Irish racism pervades Australia?

    Pardon the pun, but you've rightly hammered him in this little exchange.


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  • #67
    2ndcoming
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    All kidding aside, regardless of motives or anything else, RIP. Such a horrific way to meet your end.


  • #68
    ArtSmart
    Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    Shryke wrote: »
    Has this been posted? I deserve a ban either way.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo
    wasn't that song for the Inland Revenue Service?


  • #69
    ArtSmart
    Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    re some of the ranting.

    Ozzies* are no more or less racist than the Irish.

    But i do fear that might change if Paddy keeps having fun down under, the tabloid press being well, the tabloid press. (and of course, occasionally el Paddo does go too far)

    Still though, as tolerant a bunch as the Irish are...

    * here I am referring to Australians, not Karen and the deadheads.


  • #70
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Two irish attacked by Hammer. Did they touch it after he told them they cant touch this?


  • #71
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    i am not a politician nor am i a host of a radio show.
    i am a private citizen with personal views and opinions.
    i doubt aspiring murderers will be influenced by my opinions on boards.ie, then again you seem to be very exercised by them?!!!!!:eek:
    You're talking bollix. That annoys people.

    Just my 2 cents. No offence intended.

    Hope this helps...


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  • #72
    goodie2shoes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭goodie2shoes


    endacl wrote: »
    You're talking bollix. That annoys people.

    Just my 2 cents. No offence intended.

    Hope this helps...

    you obviously are talkin outta ur arse!
    hope this helps!;)


  • #73
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    you obviously are talkin outta ur arse!
    hope this helps!;)
    There you go! You're doing it again! Only with worse spelling! :D


  • #74
    daRobot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭daRobot


    Honestly, those who are still making Hammer jokes, after a young man has died, are vile pieces of sh*t.


  • #75
    sunflower27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    daRobot wrote: »
    Honestly, those who are still making Hammer jokes, after a young man has died, are vile pieces of sh*t.

    Agreed, but then you have to pity people that are old enough to type but unable to grasp the idea of tact.

    The jokes aren't funny, they are lame and pathetic. :rolleyes:


  • #76
    goodie2shoes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭goodie2shoes


    i see the idiot that attacked these guys has been charged with murder.
    it will be interesting to see how the Australian justice system deals with this one.


  • #77
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    i see the idiot that attacked these guys has been charged with murder.
    it will be interesting to see how the Australian justice system deals with this one.
    Very similarly to the Irish one. Interestingly, both systems have their roots in British common law.

    He'll be invited to respond to the charge. If he pleads guilty, he'll be sentenced and handed a tariff according to the Australian legal code. If he pleads not guilty he'll be tried in an open court and will offer a defence in front of a nominated jury of his peers. The jury will decide his guilt or otherwise depending on the evidence presented v his defence. If found not guilty, he will be released. If guilty he will be sentenced. Again, according to the Australian legal code.

    It's Australia. Not Mars.

    Here. Try this: http://www.dfat.gov.au/facts/legal_system.html


  • #78
    goodie2shoes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭goodie2shoes


    with Australia's history of institutional racism, I wouldn't be overly confident.


  • #79
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    with Australia's history of institutional racism, I wouldn't be overly confident.


    You've evidence of this in similar circumstances? Or are you just talking shite again?


  • #80
    holystungun9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    with Australia's history of institutional racism, I wouldn't be overly confident.
    Nodin wrote: »
    You've evidence of this in similar circumstances? Or are you just talking shite again?

    'Sustained!'


  • #81
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »
    even better news there mining and real estate bubble is about to burst
    fuck's sake Jonjo.

    Ah yeah, lots of young Irish guys with one less outlet for a job, with already scant emigration opportunities. You must be euphoric in anticipation of the latest scheduled economic doom.


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  • #82
    goodie2shoes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭goodie2shoes


    Why ask me?

    a University of NSW conducted a survey and found, "83.1% recognised that there was a problem with racism in Australia.":eek:


  • #83
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    Why ask me?

    Because you brought it up.
    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    a University of NSW conducted a survey and found, "83.1% recognised that there was a problem with racism in Australia.":eek:

    "in similar circumstances"


  • #84
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    Why ask me?

    a University of NSW conducted a survey and found, "83.1% recognised that there was a problem with racism in Australia.":eek:
    That has nothing to do with "institutionalised racism".

    You could say that there is a problem with racism in Ireland but that doesn't automatically mean that our justice system is racist.


  • #85
    goodie2shoes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭goodie2shoes


    "similar circumstances"???

    no i don't believe this guy has been charged with the murder of an Irish person before.


  • #86
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    "similar circumstances"???

    no i don't believe this guy has been charged with the murder of an Irish person before.

    Try answering the question.


  • #87
    goodie2shoes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭goodie2shoes


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    That has nothing to do with "institutionalised racism".

    You could say that there is a problem with racism in Ireland but that doesn't automatically mean that our justice system is racist.

    i think you'll find that institutional racism is alive 'n well down under, and not just within their judicial system.

    of course this may not rest easy with your simplistic view of the world.


  • #88
    goodie2shoes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭goodie2shoes


    Nodin wrote: »
    Try answering the question.

    just did moron.


  • #89
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    i think you'll find that institutional racism is alive 'n well down under, and not just within their judicial system.

    of course this may not rest easy with your simplistic view of the world.

    Have you any evidence of "instituional racism" in Australia in a similar trial involving an Irish person?


  • #90
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    i think you'll find that institutional racism is alive 'n well down under, and not just within their judicial system.
    But that figure that you mentioned doesn't relate to "institutionalised racism".


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  • #91
    goodie2shoes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭goodie2shoes


    Nodin wrote: »
    Have you any evidence of "instituional racism" in Australia in a similar trial involving an Irish person?

    institutional racism is endemic across many organs of state in Australia, not just the judiciary.

    it will be interesting to see how this trial plays out.


  • #92
    goodie2shoes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭goodie2shoes


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    But that figure that you mentioned doesn't relate to "institutionalised racism".

    no but it demonstrates that racism is alive 'n well down under.
    as if we needed a survey to tell us.:rolleyes:


  • #93
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    institutional racism is endemic across many organs of state in Australia, not just the judiciary.

    it will be interesting to see how this trial plays out.


    Do you have any evidence of "institutional racism" in Australia in a similar trial involving an Irish person?

    Do you have any evidence of "institutional racism" in Australia's judicial system against the Irish at all?


  • #94
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    no but it demonstrates that racism is alive 'n well down under.
    as if we needed a survey to tell us.:rolleyes:
    No. It tells us that some Austrailians believed there to be a problem with racism...




    ... almost 10 years ago.


  • #95
    goodie2shoes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭goodie2shoes


    Nodin wrote: »
    Do you have any evidence of "institutional racism" in Australia in a similar trial involving an Irish person?

    Do you have any evidence of "institutional racism" in Australia's judicial system against the Irish at all?

    so moron you're denying institutional racism exists in Australia?


  • #96
    SocSocPol
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭SocSocPol


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    just did moron.
    Oh what a deeply intellectual and coherent response.:rolleyes:


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  • #97
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    so moron you're denying institutional racism exists in Australia?
    Banned.


  • #98
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    goodie2shoes wrote: »
    i think you'll find that institutional racism is alive 'n well down under, and not just within their judicial system.
    But that figure that you mentioned doesn't relate to "institutionalised racism".
    Oh. I see where you're coming from goodie. Apologies.

    White guy carries out a brutal unprovoked attack on two white guys. One white guy dies. White guy is charged with the assault on two white guys and the subsequent death of one of the white guys.

    Am I following you correctly?

    Have you ever met an Australian, or were you frightened by Rolf Harris as a child?

    If you've an actual point to make, to paraphrase the great Rolf, 'I can't see what it is yet'...


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