Life as an army DF officer

investment

what is the typical day of a DF officer (LT) (Captain) considering he isnt fighting a war ??

How much respect does he get from the public compared to a british officer??


Do DF officer become friends with privates or do they stick with other officers??


What type of jobs do ex officers get when they leave??


Thanks

goldie fish

As you are a foreign agent, anyone providing the information to you would be liable to be charged with espionage, and possibly shot.

eyescreamcone

Possibly shot?!
Shot at, but with a good chance of not being hit???

Praetorian Saighdiuir

Why do you want to know?

investment

benwavner wrote: »

Why do you want to know?

The OP Ben

cyrusdvirus

Ah vesty.

We missed you.

I think you need to re-reg though.

The investment alterego has had his day in the sun.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

investment wrote: »

The OP Ben

Look, to be honest. With your post history I doubt anyone will give you the answers you seek. If such information is posted here, Im sure you will use it for "waltish" means.

Why do you want/need the info? You know that a "typical" day for any soldier in the DF can vastly be different depending on rank and Corps. So, you will not get a "one fits all" answer in that regard.

As to respect, "inter rank" relationships and career prospects after a stint in the DF, these are also varied.

investment

My past is behind me and I recently got my firearms certificate and I have been to see the doctor about my delusions and hallucinations. I hope to become a cadet next year before I apply to sandhurst. I have a masters degree from TCD

All my questions are serious and I want some serious answers

Praetorian Saighdiuir

investment wrote: »

My past is behind me and I recently got my firearms certificate and I have been to see the doctor about my delusions and hallucinations. I hope to become a cadet next year before I apply to sandhurst. I have a masters degree from TCD

All my questions are serious and I want some serious answers

Oooooohhhhhkkkkkaaaaayyy!

A firearms certificate + seeing the doc for delusions & halucinations = Troll

Pop over to IMO if you want answers.

goldie fish

benwavner wrote: »

Oooooohhhhhkkkkkaaaaayyy!

A firearms certificate + seeing the doc for delusions & halucinations = Troll

Pop over to IMO if you want answers.

He won't make it past moderation on IMO before being deleted.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

goldie fish wrote: »

He won't make it past moderation on IMO before being deleted.

I didnt know it was premoderated, although I have obly been on it twice and never posted.

Steady flow of lunatics around here lately.

It wasn't me!

benwavner wrote: »

I didnt know it was premoderated, although I have obly been on it twice and never posted.

Steady flow of lunatics around here lately.

Haven't checked, is there a full moon or something?

Teangalad

Fire arm cerificate, delusions and halucinations , Seriously how is the investment lad not banned??

bluecode

Diary of an army officer:

"Got up around midday, raging hangover. Couple of shots of whiskey for breakfast. Made my way to the office. Met my Orderly Sergeant, he suggested I put on a uniform or any clothes really. Embarrassing!

Got to my desk, first order of business, Private O'Connell on a charge, persistent lateness and sleeping on duty. After hearing his case I sentenced him to death by firing squad. But Orderly Sergeant Murray, coughed and pointed out this was no longer on the books for this offence. 'Fifty lashes?' I suggested. No, apparently not. So I drew my pistol, put a round up the spout and placed it on the table in front of O'Connell. Told him we would step outside and allow him to do the decent thing. But no apparently this is not appropriate either according to Murray.

Damm this army is too namby pamby. In the end I said I'd think about it and dismissed them both. I needed a nap before lunch.

This afternoon I plan a snap inspection of the female changing room just after gym training. Should be interesting."

minidazzler

bluecode wrote: »

Told him we would step outside and allow him to do the decent thing. But no apparently this is not appropriate either according to Murray.

I haven't laughed out loud about something I read on the internet in a long time. Thank you

tac foley

investment wrote: »

My past is behind me and I recently got my firearms certificate and I have been to see the doctor about my delusions and hallucinations. I hope to become a cadet next year before I apply to sandhurst. I have a masters degree from TCD

All my questions are serious and I want some serious answers

Breaking my own rules about responding to a troll, but with your alleged mental health problems, both 'hoping to become a cadet' and 'applying to sandhurst [sp]' are as likely as becoming the next president of the Republic.

My serious response to you is to seriously look for advice in your mental health problems, that do NOT seem to have been resolved.

tac

fougachap

Hi there what have you done your masters in OP ? Are you going to wait for thee cadetships next year or would you be able to go straight in as a direct entry , ?
If you are taking a year out I may have an interesting proposition for you .;)

investment

fougachap wrote: »

Hi there what have you done your masters in OP ? Are you going to wait for thee cadetships next year or would you be able to go straight in as a direct entry , ?
If you are taking a year out I may have an interesting proposition for you .;)

whats that??

Owryan

fougachap wrote: »

Hi there what have you done your masters in OP ? Are you going to wait for thee cadetships next year or would you be able to go straight in as a direct entry , ?
If you are taking a year out I may have an interesting proposition for you .;)

Is "Davehopper" back?

fougachap

Myself and a few others have decided to form a group or association of like minded individuals that would share the same ideas and principles , hopefully we would all be intellectually compatible and share the same ideals .
any one interested ? pm me

cyrusdvirus

Owryan wrote: »

Is "Davehopper" back?

It does look that way.

Either that or vesty has himself a new imaginary friend.

Owryan

gatecrash wrote: »

It does look that way.

Either that or vesty has himself a new imaginary friend.

Vestys imaginary friend is "Roger" remember

cyrusdvirus

Owryan wrote: »

Vestys imaginary friend is "Roger" remember

that's why i said new.

roger sits on one shoulder, this fouga chap sits on the other.

OS119

fougachap wrote: »

Myself and a few others have decided to form a group or association of like minded individuals that would share the same ideas and principles , hopefully we would all be intellectually compatible and share the same ideals .
any one interested ? pm me

http://www.davidicke.com/

discus

fougachap wrote: »

Myself and a few others have decided to form a group or association of like minded individuals that would share the same ideas and principles , hopefully we would all be intellectually compatible and share the same ideals .
any one interested ? pm me

Count me in

tac foley

OS119 wrote: »

http://www.davidicke.com/

Very apt.

tac

fn303dave

Is this the start of some new political group with militaristic points of view, if so count me in too.

Kosseegan

investment wrote: »

what is the typical day of a DF officer (LT) (Captain) considering he isnt fighting a war ??

How much respect does he get from the public compared to a british officer??


Do DF officer become friends with privates or do they stick with other officers??


What type of jobs do ex officers get when they leave??


Thanks

Arrive in to office. If in good humour say good morning to office staff and go to own office and sit down. Pretend to be surprised when orderly brings in tea 2 minutes later. If in bad humour, demand tea on the way in and no good mornings. Read newspapers till 11. Go to mess for coffee. Join carefully selected group according to seniority. Ignore junior officers. Pretend not to see senior officers and hope not to be ignored by them. Begin conversation by describing what a hell of a morning you have had. You haven't had a minute what with the Director of Operations on the phone twice, ( unless you are the Director of Operations), not to mention the other Brigade looking for some off the record help, urgent letters in from HQ, to cap it all your corporal is on annual leave, your CS is on Orderly Sergeant and the another NCO is on a course.
One of the recipients of this tale of woe says "The Director of OPs isn't he from County X, they made a right bags of it on Sunday." Reply by saying yes "did you see what xxx said in this mornings paper said about them, I just managed to get a quick peek before I left the office". To a chorus of "I didn't get a chance, so busy this morning" you recite the article word for word from the newspaper. One of the individuals who didn't get a chance then recites another article on the same topic article word for word from another newspaper. At that stage the Colonel coughs and there is a sudden outburst of "is that the time, I really have to dash - so busy". Back to the office to wait for lunch. Ring classmate in the other brigade and ask him where thinks xxx got the money for the big flashy car you saw outside the mess this morning. Fill in classmate on gossip till lunchtime.
Take a half day in lieu of being late on the range the previous week. Go Home.

tac foley

Kosseegan wrote: »

Arrive in to office. If in good humour say good morning to office staff and go to own office and sit down. Pretend to be surprised when orderly brings in tea 2 minutes later. If in bad humour, demand tea on the way in and no good mornings. Read newspapers till 11. Go to mess for coffee. Join carefully selected group according to seniority. Ignore junior officers. Pretend not to see senior officers and hope not to be ignored by them. Begin conversation by describing what a hell of a morning you have had. You haven't had a minute what with the Director of Operations on the phone twice, ( unless you are the Director of Operations), not to mention the other Brigade looking for some off the record help, urgent letters in from HQ, to cap it all your corporal is on annual leave, your CS is on Orderly Sergeant and the another NCO is on a course.
One of the recipients of this tale of woe says "The Director of OPs isn't he from County X, they made a right bags of it on Sunday." Reply by saying yes "did you see what xxx said in this mornings paper said about them, I just managed to get a quick peek before I left the office". To a chorus of "I didn't get a chance, so busy this morning" you recite the article word for word from the newspaper. One of the individuals who didn't get a chance then recites another article on the same topic article word for word from another newspaper. At that stage the Colonel coughs and there is a sudden outburst of "is that the time, I really have to dash - so busy". Back to the office to wait for lunch. Ring classmate in the other brigade and ask him where thinks xxx got the money for the big flashy car you saw outside the mess this morning. Fill in classmate on gossip till lunchtime.
Take a half day in lieu of being late on the range the previous week. Go Home.

Sounds pretty average to me.

However, you missed out the bit about writing to the PMC of the mess about the lack of Garibaldi biscuits - a suitably military comestible for any aspiring career officer. Custard creams are just NOT officer mess fare, y'know.

tac

goldie fish

tac foley wrote: »

Sounds pretty average to me.

However, you missed out the bit about writing to the PMC of the mess about the lack of Garibaldi biscuits - a suitably military comestible for any aspiring career officer. Custard creams are just NOT officer mess fare, y'know.

tac

That may be how they do it in the British Army, but we have no time for that carry on here.

It's Jammie dodgers or scones.

cyrusdvirus

goldie fish wrote: »

tac foley wrote: »

Sounds pretty average to me.

However, you missed out the bit about writing to the PMC of the mess about the lack of Garibaldi biscuits - a suitably military comestible for any aspiring career officer. Custard creams are just NOT officer mess fare, y'know.

tac

That may be how they do it in the British Army, but we have no time for that carry on here.

It's Jammie dodgers or scones.

And your place in the pecking order is NOT determined by rank, but how you pronounce the word scones.

Does it rhyme with bone or on?

These are the mysteries of the officers mess!

OS119

goldie fish wrote: »

...Jammie dodgers or scones.

Jammie Dodgers are for Families Days, and probably the RLC.

Scones are, IME, reserved for the obligitary drinks at the CO's house before block leave in the Summer, where Mrs CO demonstrates how much she enjoys being 'wife of' and opening her home to 30 people she either doesn't know, who leer at her tits/arse/daughter, or she can't stand by baking the most inedible lump of concrete yet known to man.

but eat up and smile boys, because if your CO thinks you are impolite enough to indicate that his wife can't cook to save her life, then you'll spend what remains of your career being the Unit Welfare Officer at 3RRS - its like a holding pen for the Jeremy Kyle show, but with more shreiking harridens.

as Tac says, Garibaldi's are the true biscuit - flavour, texture, ability to withstand dunking... they've got everything.

OS119

gatecrash wrote: »

...These are the mysteries of the officers mess!

but which mess?

the pronouciation required in a Household Division Mess might see a man ostracised in a RE/REME Mess - in one you'd be 'one of us', in another you'd be a soft southern furry fit only to sew sequins onto the Christmass Tree...

investment

Kosseegan wrote: »

Arrive in to office. If in good humour say good morning to office staff and go to own office and sit down. Pretend to be surprised when orderly brings in tea 2 minutes later. If in bad humour, demand tea on the way in and no good mornings. Read newspapers till 11. Go to mess for coffee. Join carefully selected group according to seniority. Ignore junior officers. Pretend not to see senior officers and hope not to be ignored by them. Begin conversation by describing what a hell of a morning you have had. You haven't had a minute what with the Director of Operations on the phone twice, ( unless you are the Director of Operations), not to mention the other Brigade looking for some off the record help, urgent letters in from HQ, to cap it all your corporal is on annual leave, your CS is on Orderly Sergeant and the another NCO is on a course.
One of the recipients of this tale of woe says "The Director of OPs isn't he from County X, they made a right bags of it on Sunday." Reply by saying yes "did you see what xxx said in this mornings paper said about them, I just managed to get a quick peek before I left the office". To a chorus of "I didn't get a chance, so busy this morning" you recite the article word for word from the newspaper. One of the individuals who didn't get a chance then recites another article on the same topic article word for word from another newspaper. At that stage the Colonel coughs and there is a sudden outburst of "is that the time, I really have to dash - so busy". Back to the office to wait for lunch. Ring classmate in the other brigade and ask him where thinks xxx got the money for the big flashy car you saw outside the mess this morning. Fill in classmate on gossip till lunchtime.
Take a half day in lieu of being late on the range the previous week. Go Home.

I cant wait to join. Life is good better than being a stupid civy

tac foley

investment wrote: »

I cant wait to join. Life is good better than being a stupid civy

However, the downside is the occasional demand on your life.

Like, all of the rest of it.

tac

OS119

tac foley wrote: »

However, the downside is the occasional demand on your life....

and not being a complete nutcase - which is, i fear, the first hurdle at which our friend will fall...

investment

OS119 wrote: »

and not being a complete nutcase - which is, i fear, the first hurdle at which our friend will fall...

oh stfu..:rolleyes:

OS119

investment wrote: »

oh stfu..:rolleyes:

oh i am sorry - i must have you confused with some other 'investment' on this bored - that one was a complete fantasist/head-banging fruitcake/loonspud.

obviously, as you aren't that person and have demonstrated only a cool head and a sound grip on reality, your application will fly through...

Jawgap

investment wrote: »

My past is behind me and I recently got my firearms certificate and I have been to see the doctor about my delusions and hallucinations. I hope to become a cadet next year before I apply to sandhurst. I have a masters degree from TCD

All my questions are serious and I want some serious answers

Say it dude, go on say it........please say it.....





btw- your past is behind you -where else would it be? Out of interest where did you get that Masters in Trinity? The gift shop?

Teangalad wrote: »

Fire arm cerificate, delusions and halucinations , Seriously how is the investment lad not banned??

Ban him? you heartless soul Next you'll want to send the dog outside just because it farts.

Anyway, the following is a snip of a conversation I overheard in the Curragh once* - it involves an officer of more senior rank than a Captain, but you get the idea......

Maj. Major Major Major: Sergeant, from now on, I don't want anyone to come in and see me while I'm in my office. Is that clear?
First Sgt. Towser: Yes, sir? What do I say to people who want to come in and see you while you're gone?
Maj. Major Major Major: Tell them I'm in and ask them to wait.
First Sgt. Towser: For how long?
Maj. Major Major Major: Until I've left.
First Sgt. Towser: And then what do I do with them?
Maj. Major Major Major: I don't care.
First Sgt. Towser: May I send people in to see you after you've left?
Maj. Major Major Major: Yes.
First Sgt. Towser: You won't be here then, will you?
Maj. Major Major Major: No.
First Sgt. Towser: I see, sir. Will that be all?
Maj. Major Major Major: Also, Sergeant, I don't want you coming in while I'm in my office asking me if there's anything you can do for me. Is that clear?
First Sgt. Towser: Yes, sir. When should I come in your office and ask if there's anything I can do for you?
Maj. Major Major Major: When I'm not there.
First Sgt. Towser: What do I do then?
Maj. Major Major Major: Whatever has to be done.
First Sgt. Towser: Yes, sir.

Based on this exchange I'd say you're well on your way to becoming a Major, Investment. Of course that will require a major investment on your part investment in time and energy and a major investment on the part of the state to train you.

However, in the straitened times we live in, investments in developing majors, even in developing a Major Investment seem unlikely, investment. You might have better success with the Brits, they still make majors and have the money for investment in majors, meaning the chances of a major investment being made to create a Major Investment are greater there.

I'd suggest aiming for the RE, after all if it doesn't work out and the major investment needed to develop you as Major Investment doesn't come about you can leave. With an engineering qualification it would be easier to get a job as a miner - of course you'd have to start as a minor miner.........





*Disclaimer: may not have actually been overheard anywhere in Ireland

Maoltuile

Jawgap wrote: »

Maj. Major Major Major

"Major Major"? For one horrible moment, I had a flashback to my one and only encounter with the 20Bn/62 Bn (people will know the family of whom I speak!)

bluecode

While my previous post was tongue in cheek. Kossegan's has a ring of authenticity to it.

Jawgap

OS119 wrote: »

.....as Tac says, Garibaldi's are the true biscuit - flavour, texture, ability to withstand dunking... they've got everything.

For true dunkability it has to be the hobnob - also are biscuits fruit and biscuits brown still used? And is it wrong that the (very) few times I tried them, I liked them?

OS119

Jawgap wrote: »

For true dunkability it has to be the hobnob - also are biscuits fruit and biscuits brown still used? And is it wrong that the (very) few times I tried them, I liked them?

they are still about - and no, its not wrong that you enjoyed them. fruits are best, but browns are acceptable with paté (french lard for you Infantry-types).

i must admit that my own experience is that while a hobnob has the structural integrity to make a superb single-dip biscuit, the absorbancy of the biscuit means that even when the majority of the dunked portion is eaten, the biscuit can subsequently fail due to the effect of the retained Tea on the ability of the uneaten proportion of the biscuit to withstand the high-G stresses of being waved about as the holder vents forth about the delicious nature of the CO's wifes Scones...

iceage

There is a secret support group for the few who shall forever remain anonymous that admit to liking biscuit browns. They were only truly acceptable when smeared with that dodgy cheese spread that came in some of the rat packs. I'd swear blind that that stuff glowed in the dark, saw it with my own two eyes.

minidazzler

investment wrote: »

I cant wait to join. Life is good better than being a stupid civy

To be fair though, a Stupid Civvy isn't gonna become a good officer.

A good civvy maybe, but a stupid one...

tac foley

Bearing in mind the surreal direction that this thread has taken, mostly due to the moonbat 'investment' dreaming his delusions and taking us with him, I'd suggest that we bang it firmly on the head, and move quickly on.

Kafka would laff.

OS119, please bring the biscuits.

tac

minidazzler

tac foley wrote: »

Bearing in mind the surreal direction that this thread has taken, mostly due to the moonbat 'investment' dreaming his delusions and taking us with him, I'd suggest that we bang it firmly on the head, and move quickly on.

Kafka would laff.

OS119, please bring the biscuits.

tac

To be fair, his delusions are far more fun than my own. I wanna see where this goes. Anyone else get the idea this is how Baron Castleshortarse got his start?

investment

I dont give a ****e what you all think!!!....I'm more likely to become an army officer than any of you guys here...perhaps I can hide my delusions behind a key board. But I'm a different man when the time comes a calling. I dont back down. I'm a quiet man.. but I'm very fcuking dangerous.


I own a gun therefore have shooting experience
I'm a natural born leader. Captain of my Gaa team
I have a master degree
I'm physical bigger and strong than anyone i've met

cyrusdvirus

minidazzler wrote: »

To be fair, his delusions are far more fun than my own. I wanna see where this goes. Anyone else get the idea this is how Baron Castleshortarse got his start?

Dunno about the good baron, but i think every forum needs it's gimp.

Over in A&A we got a bit too heavy with getting rid of Dave and Fouga, vesty's other alter egos, so i think we should keep him here, bring him out when we want a good laugh...

His post above is a good example of how he brings a smile to the face.

OS119

investment wrote: »

I dont give a ****e what you all think!!!....I'm more likely to become an army officer than any of you guys here...perhaps I can hide my delusions behind a key board. But I'm a different man when the time comes a calling. I dont back down. I'm a quiet man.. but I'm very fcuking dangerous.


I own a gun therefore have shooting experience
I'm a natural born leader. Captain of my Gaa team
I have a master degree
I'm physical bigger and strong than anyone i've met

well i'm convinced - i mean, now that some wierdo bloke off the internet says that he's not a nutcase, and that he's bigger than me (it wouldn't be hard), and that he's got a gun, i think he'll be a success in every area of his life, and would be a valuable and inspiring leader.

investment

investment wrote: »

I dont give a ****e what you all think!!!....I'm more likely to become an army officer than any of you guys here...perhaps I can hide my delusions behind a key board. But I'm a different man when the time comes a calling. I dont back down. I'm a quiet man.. but I'm very fcuking dangerous.


I own a gun therefore have shooting experience
I'm a natural born leader. Captain of my Gaa team
I have a master degree
I'm physical bigger and strong than anyone i've met

Anyone with that kind of attitude needs his weapons licence seized.

You, sir, are dangerous. You have to realise that other people cannot and will not trust you with firearms in a professional setting.

When I was a reservist doing my stint of 24 hour, I had a young lad with me who was into his snipers. As we approached the end of our stint, we asked between us who wanted to be outside for the last rotation.

"I do" he said, with a smile & look at his issued rifle. "I just wanna feel the gun in my hands for one last time".

He was just a kid, a wimpy one at that, but that......disconcerted me. I was worried he wanted to chamber a round, which would have required me to do so as well (logically there's no situation where one soldier should chamber a round and the others not. either that soldier has seen a valid threat, in which case he needs support, or he's about to become one, in which case he must be dissuaded, or engaged if worse comes to worse.)

The fact was he was a wimpy kid looking to play soldier, and he didn't chamber a round. But you do *not* need that potential for second guessing in a firearms situation. You need to know everyone on the team will treat the firearm as what it is: a tool. A useless tool for he majority of army work, but a tool that you know *how* to use properly and *when* to use properly should the need arise.

There is no way I can verify that you will treat the firearm as nothing more than a tool, and the fact you are getting emotional about being denied it (as evidenced by your posts) suggests to me an emotional attachment to firearms that is dangerous in a professional environment.

I would feel the need to stand facing you & be prepared to chamber a round all the time. You don't need that in the Army.