can bouncers ban you from a club

Degag

zcorpian88 wrote: »

He is hired by a separate security company I found out later so the manager has no real control over the bouncer.

He still employs the firm so therefore he should have control. If I were him i'd be telling the security firm not to send that guy again or i'll find another security firm.

hatrickpatrick

Guill wrote: »

Should bounces have to put up with verbal abuse?

Most bouncers in Ireland are complete w@nkers to be fair, they should be able to put up with whatever they dish out themselves.
And I say that as someone who has great respect for bouncers where respect is due. I've met many incredibly sound bouncers in my time. Generally not in Ireland though.

Capt'n Midnight

What's the difference between a bouncer and the Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology ?

A bouncer won't let you with a couple of E's.

zcorpian88

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

If it happens again ask him.
Honestly it could be any number of reasons.

Or you're the prick and the bouncer cried over it:pac:

Haha I was far from being a prick that night, was in good form the whole night. I can be a prick if somebody crosses me but usually I'm fairly easy going. Mistaken identity did cross my mind when I was sober the next day. Might have been because I was wearing a hoody out instead of a shirt. The bouncer having garda thoughts "Look a hoody, looks like trouble!"

Capt'n Midnight

Fromthetrees wrote: »

I chucked a single chip at the bouncers head, it missed, he turned and looked at me angrily, I took out another chip as quickly as I could and fired it at him which connected right on the forehead, boom, I then ran like a little bitch as fast asI could until I could'nt breathe, that'll learn him to mess with me.

Good thing you didn't throw one of those little sachets at him.

You would have been done for assault.

Biggins

Degag wrote: »

He still employs the firm so therefore he should have control. If I were him i'd be telling the security firm not to send that guy again or i'll find another security firm.

Just to be clear, if a business directly hires persons or an agency which further staffs itself with persons to operate on their behalf and/or on their premises, they are in law, acting as 'Legal Agents' for the bar/club, etc.

As such not only are they personally legally calculable for their actions but also the person/business hiring them, is open to further litigation by others seeking redress for the braking of any laws against them.

treborflynn

the trick is to wait till your leavin, then call him a few names.

Prick!

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

What's the difference between a bouncer and the Galway-Mayo Institute of Technology ?

A bouncer won't let you with a couple of E's.

What the in between jumpers?

hatrickpatrick

Biggins wrote: »

Just to be clear, if a business directly hires persons or an agency which further staffs itself with persons to operate on their behalf and/or on their premises, they are in law, acting as 'Legal Agents' for the bar/club, etc.

As such not only are they personally legally calculable for their actions but also the person/business hiring them, is open to further litigation by others seeking redress for the braking of any laws against them.

Interesting. So to take the fiasco which erupted a couple of years ago when UCD hired Pulse Security who turned out to be thugs and allegedly assaulted some students, it would be UCD who would be liable should anyone decide to press charges or take legal action, not Pulse?

PaddyORuadhan

end of the road wrote: »

its abuse, its not nice but one gets over it. if the OP attacked the bouncer then thats a different story and would be a good reason for a lifetime bann.

Why should anyone be abused in their job? If people are drunk and abusive its their problem not the bouncers.

Yes, verbal abuse happens, but if someone who engages in such actions should deal with the consequences...

If people walked into the local centa or spar and gave the abuse bouncers get on a regular basis, you think you'd be ever served.

If I were the lad that posted this thread, I'd do what was suggested by someone else. Go to the club sober and early and not on a night you are trying to get in. Explain that the one occassion wasn't your normal character, and that you were really sorry for the incident, and you'd really like the chance to socialise there again. If you are sober, sincere, apologetic, and respectful I reckon the ban will be lifted.

Biggins

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Interesting. So to take the fiasco which erupted a couple of years ago when UCD hired Pulse Security who turned out to be thugs and allegedly assaulted some students, it would be UCD who would be liable should anyone decide to press charges or take legal action, not Pulse?

Your first direction of redress would be to Pulse Security, secondly to the people hiring them and thirdly, if all else fails and damage was done in that costs was involved, you could even take on the insurance company that had (should have!) public liability insurance on such a place/event.

Fromthetrees

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Good thing you didn't throw one of those little sachets at him.

You would have been done for assault.

Ah yeah, I didn't want to hurt him, it just felt like the right thing to do. I'm much older and more mature now.

I think.

end of the road

PaddyORuadhan wrote: »

Why should anyone be abused in their job? If people are drunk and abusive its their problem not the bouncers.

who said it was the bouncers problem? of course ideally nobody should be abused in their job but being a bouncer means abuse comes with the job whether you like it or not. as hard as it is you have to be able to take it on the chin. i get its not nice but you can't say you don't expect it to happen or that you didn't realise it could happen.

PaddyORuadhan wrote: »

Yes, verbal abuse happens, but if someone who engages in such actions should deal with the consequences...

not if its a lifetime bann for a bit of abuse when drunk. over the top. if the OP attacked the bouncer then i would say dam right a lifetime bann is in order.

PaddyORuadhan wrote: »

If people walked into the local centa or spar and gave the abuse bouncers get on a regular basis, you think you'd be ever served.

in fairness theirs a difference between both jobs but i get your point.
look, if you become a bouncer you know the risks, you know you could receive abuse from drunk members of the public, like i said its not nice but if you can't deal with it and be professional then you need to go get a new job.

BOF666

rdogg12794 wrote: »

im never hammered in the line it was just the once im always aware of what im doin and when they take me out of the line i dont say anything i just laugh it off and pretend like i dont care

its cheap to get in i mean

i never buy drinks in clubs

i only go for the good time a club is only as good as the ppl in it thats y i like carbon every1 i know goes there

Can't stand nightclubs even when I'm locked.

Definitely can't imagine ever going to one and not drinking...

Tombi!

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Most bouncers in Ireland are complete w@nkers to be fair, they should be able to put up with whatever they dish out themselves.
And I say that as someone who has great respect for bouncers where respect is due. I've met many incredibly sound bouncers in my time. Generally not in Ireland though.

Well that's a bit unfair. I'd say for every "decent" place I've gone to, the good bouncers really outnumbered the bad ones.
Even the times when I'm completely drunk, I get treated with decency since I'm not kicking off.

But there are some places with bouncers that are complete thugs but generally the clientale are thugs, as in fine with stabbing someone for looking at them the wrong way.
Just avoid the places that let in scores of scumbags at a time.

nice_very

rdogg12794 wrote: »

well everyone im friends with goes there cuz its cheap

still, why would you want to go somewhere you are not wanted? because "everyone" goes there? :rolleyes:

marshbaboon

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Well that's a bit unfair. I'd say for every "decent" place I've gone to, the good bouncers really outnumbered the bad ones.
Even the times when I'm completely drunk, I get treated with decency since I'm not kicking off.

But there are some places with bouncers that are complete thugs but generally the clientale are thugs, as in fine with stabbing someone for looking at them the wrong way.
Just avoid the places that let in scores of scumbags at a time.

I've only had one bad experience with bouncers, was in a rough enough pub in Dublin & as it was closing I had 3 of them come up to me out of nowhere, tell me I had too much to drink and threatened to drag me out if I didn't leave...

Bear in mind that it wasn't a few minutes after closing, it was at closing. I was standing with friends that were real regulars (who weren't rushed out the door) plus to top it off I hadn't been drinking. Started laughing because I thought it was a joke.

They then threatened me again, so I told them very calmly & articulately not to touch me & told them there was absolutely no need for the attitude, and walked out. I was completely bemused by it. I'm guessing they were just paranoid because I'm so big?

Only other time I can think of is I was refused at a local pub because I had steel toe boots on & they were afraid I would start a fight. Asked him to be reasonable & told him that I had to meet friends inside. Also told him not to worry because I was a total pussy anyway. He laughed it off, and let me in no problem. :pac:

Neewbie_noob

rdogg12794 wrote: »

Because i was hammered and called the bouncer a prick back in june.

Why did you abuse the man ??