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Income tax and welfare

28-08-2012 12:47pm

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#2 28-08-2012 6:48pm

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Aquila wrote: »

There has been suggestions in this forum about those on certain SW payments having to make a % contribution in income tax etc.
What i am curious about is the reasoning why those on certain welfare payments don't make a contribution in "income" tax?is it for historical reasons?

There are basically 2 types of SW payments - benefits and allowances.

Benefits tend to be based on contributions, and taxable.

Allowances tend to be means tested and not taxable. AFAIK the purpose of the means test and allowance payments is to ensure the person achieves a certain required minimum level of income. On the one hand, there is an implied presumption that in order to pass the means test to obtain an allowance, generally one's income (or the family's income) would be so low that they wouldn't be in the tax net anyway. And if you accept the premise that the purpose of the allowance payment is to guarantee a certain level of net household income, then taxing the payment would just mean having to increase the gross amount of the payment, so as to end up with the same net income.

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#3 28-08-2012 10:24pm

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Social welfare payments have traditionally been paid to the least well off memebrs of society. When welfare is a fraction of what one could make in a basic unskillled job then any issues a to taxing it don't arise.

But when one person gets 30k a year tax free for not working and another works for 30k a year and has to pay tax on it, then clearly something is wrong.

Taxing welfare is just a symptom of how mad our welfare system rather than an actual solution.

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#4 29-08-2012 12:28am

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This is duplicate thread
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056738300

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