Garmin Forerunner 10 coming in Sept for 135$

rom

DCrainmaker in depth review
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2012/08/garmin-forerunner-10-fr10-gps-watch-in.html

Pros:

- Inexpensive, cheapest GPS watch Garmin’s made
- Legit waterproofing, up to 50 meters
- Easy to use
- Virtual Pacer, Run/Walk and Auto Pause included (usually on higher end watches)
- Garmin Connect upload capability
- Very very small, especially the women's version

Cons:

- Two different sized charging docs could be pain for couples
- Only one user profile per watch (for calorie info)
- No ANT+ sensor connectivity for heart rate or indoor treadmills
- Cycling mode is so-so at best

Comparision


http://gizmodo.com/5938416/garmin-forerunner-10-a-simple-gps-fitness-watch-for-your-evening-jog

http://sites.garmin.com/forerunner10/

Looks like USB with no HRM support as budget watches are obviously hitting sales.

sconhome

Looks very like the Polar RC3 which is just launched to the same market profile.

Simple GPS tracking with some training features. Price very definitely a factor.

laurach

Was looking at getting http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ultrasport-G...=pd_ys_iyr_img on Amazon which seems to be a watch that has been available in German market for quite a while and has 4* review on German Amazon site. Anybody come across it or have an opinion?
It seems to have a decent feature set for the price. I haven't had a GPS or HRM watch before so would be very interested in peoples opinions. It also has heart rate monitor which the Garmin FR10 doesn't

rom

amphkingwest wrote: »

Looks very like the Polar RC3 which is just launched to the same market profile.

Simple GPS tracking with some training features. Price very definitely a factor.

Polar watch is nearly 3 times the price. Learning that people are not going to want to put on a separate GPS unit took them a while to learn. I might have bought this 6 months ago instead of the 610 but i do like vibrate alerts.

sconhome

Its the new Polar RC3 with the integrated GPS which is +- €240 w/o HR. There is another model the RCX-3 which has the separate GPS pod.

rom

amphkingwest wrote: »

Its the new Polar RC3 with the integrated GPS which is +- €240 w/o HR. There is another model the RCX-3 which has the separate GPS pod.

Not really entry level at that price and usb port on the back is a bad idea. I fix it

sconhome

Twas the styling that caught my eye.

Reading the blurb on both they are squarely aimed at the same / similar market. The difference being the RC3 is compatible with bike sensors so suits beginner duathlon / AR etc.

I'd like to give them both a run. Am sure you'd be well able to sort their issues out given half the chance!

Krusty_Clown

amphkingwest wrote: »

Its the new Polar RC3 with the integrated GPS which is +- €240 w/o HR. There is another model the RCX-3 which has the separate GPS pod.

Hey Polar-boy , I expect DC Rainmaker will have his review of the RC3 up over the next few days. Should make for interesting reading. He did mention that it seemed to lose GPS connectivity going through some tunnels, where the other watches (FR10, FR310xt) measured the additional distance. Rainmaker seems quite unbiased, so should be a good comparison with some of the watches in the Garmin stable.

sconhome

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Hey Polar-boy , I expect DC Rainmaker will have his review of the RC3 up over the next few days. Should make for interesting reading. He did mention that it seemed to lose GPS connectivity going through some tunnels, where the other watches (FR10, FR310xt) measured the additional distance. Rainmaker seems quite unbiased, so should be a good comparison with some of the watches in the Garmin stable.

Oh how I wish Polar would be so troublesome that it'd have to have a mega-thread of its own.

DC had a go at one a couple of weeks ago RC3 GPS

rom

amphkingwest wrote: »

Oh how I wish Polar would be so troublesome that it'd have to have a mega-thread of its own.

DC had a go at one a couple of weeks ago RC3 GPS

Is that where the oil or water goes in ?
nice

sconhome

Its a new feature, I doubt it'll catch on. :rolleyes:

RacoonQueen

amphkingwest wrote: »

Oh how I wish Polar would be so troublesome that it'd have to have a mega-thread of its own.

Or just popular enough that it couldh ave a mega thread of its own :P

copacetic

I have a post from a couple of years ago re the 110 when I would have gone for it, except that it didnt have current pace as an option or auto pause as a feature.

This looks like a great cheap option to me, has nearly everything I actually use day to day with the 405, but without the silly bezel. I generally use auto lap, auto pause monitor time elapsed, distance and current pace, so only downside is 2 field display rather than 3. Waterproof also is nice. Looks nicer than 405 also.


Wouldn't agree with cons in first post though.
Main cons are that it only allows 2 field displayed at a time and that the battery life is only 5 hours. Otherwise it has everything most people need. If it comes out for €100 or so I'll pick one up to replace the 405 for sure, it will be available for that very quickly online either way I'd say.

Anyone (perhaps a retailer??) have an idea on availability on the shelves?

Krusty_Clown

I'd agree with what you have to say ^ up there, but having an entirely different charging clip for this watch to the others in the Garmin stable (and worse, having different charging clips for the male and female editions of the watch)) is just a little bit nuts.

rom

copacetic wrote: »

I have a post from a couple of years ago re the 110 when I would have gone for it, except that it didnt have current pace as an option or auto pause as a feature.

This looks like a great cheap option to me, has nearly everything I actually use day to day with the 405, but without the silly bezel. I generally use auto lap, auto pause monitor time elapsed, distance and current pace, so only downside is 2 field display rather than 3. Waterproof also is nice. Looks nicer than 405 also.


Wouldn't agree with cons in first post though.
Main cons are that it only allows 2 field displayed at a time and that the battery life is only 5 hours. Otherwise it has everything most people need. If it comes out for €100 or so I'll pick one up to replace the 405 for sure, it will be available for that very quickly online either way I'd say.

Anyone (perhaps a retailer??) have an idea on availability on the shelves?

Cons are a copy and paste from DCrainmaker. Available on pre-order from amazon.com and garmin US (neither allow outside US shipping) amazon.ca/uk and garmin for both have no details on when its available so it looks like they will satisfy the US market first.

copacetic

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

I'd agree with what you have to say ^ up there, but having an entirely different charging clip for this watch to the others in the Garmin stable (and worse, having different charging clips for the male and female editions of the watch)) is just a little bit nuts.

I dunno if that's an issue, I presume most people will have one gps watch and one charger. Besides the 305 was different from the 405 and the 405 charger connection is a bit rubbish. This looks closer to the 305 type connection. I understand the 110 is different from 305 and 405 also and the 610
looks different again, did any of the different size units share chargers?

rom wrote: »

Cons are a copy and paste from DCrainmaker. Available on pre-order from amazon.com and garmin US (neither allow outside US shipping) amazon.ca/uk and garmin for both have no details on when its available so it looks like they will satisfy the US market first.

Apologies, I didn't mean they were your cons, just that they were in your post. Another one for some people might be lack of hrm support but I never bother with that anymore, I just want a watch that I can pick up and go for a run with, then every few weeks download the data, saving any effort of keeping track of the data myself.

sconhome

No idea on availability or cost yet. Considering I was only told the day before the Garmin 910xt was to be available in Ireland I'm not holding out for a lot of notice.

I would expect it will be available before the Christmas market.

First sniff I get I'll let you know & work out a deal for boards.ie members, ok?

rom

amphkingwest wrote: »

No idea on availability or cost yet. Considering I was only told the day before the Garmin 910xt was to be available in Ireland I'm not holding out for a lot of notice.

I would expect it will be available before the Christmas market.

First sniff I get I'll let you know & work out a deal for boards.ie members, ok?

Did that boards discount for AK materialize ?

Krusty_Clown

copacetic wrote: »

I understand the 110 is different from 305 and 405 also and the 610 looks different again, did any of the different size units share chargers?

The same charger works across the 405 (and 405cx), 310xt, 410 and the 910xt. We have three active Garmins in our house (two 405s and a 910), all of which use the same charger. It's just more convenient. But having two different chargers for the same model of watch? IMO an extremely nonsensical decision. Imagine if Dell had different chargers for different colours of the same model of laptop?

sconhome

rom wrote: »

Did that boards discount for AK materialize ?

Working on a deal which will probably go up as a boards deal.

Having said that, it there is interest in the Garmin FR10 and I've a rough idea of numbers I will work on getting these as close as possible to online site prices. (Same goes for any other bulk orders)

sconhome

Due for launch in Ireland in September (no date confirmed)
RRP is €134.99

copacetic

Thanks for the update, bit annoying that they are still using the euro tax like apple. Charging 25% more for the watch in euro than dollars is a bit much, but it really hits retailers more than anyone else as it starts consumers off with the impression of being taken advantage of. Leading to searching online/importing to avoid it.

sconhome

The biggest issue (as I've outlined in a Twitter conversation) is that Ireland is a wing of a UK distributor (for most things) so we're always going to be more expensive because of the euro to sterling back to euro pricing + our extra VAT.

rom

http://www.sub4.ie/sports-watches-running-watches-garmin-forerunner-01039-p-827.html
have them listed ? Don't know about in-stock ?

copacetic

Heart rate monitors site in the uk are saying not available until early November.
£99.99 wth 10% off currently, about €115.

sconhome

Due in this month, actual launch date is impossible to tie down. This is quite normal with Garmin.

copacetic

amphkingwest wrote: »

Due in this month, actual launch date is impossible to tie down. This is quite normal with Garmin.

Any idea how many people you need to sign up to do a boardsie group buy?

sconhome

copacetic wrote: »

Any idea how many people you need to sign up to do a boardsie group buy?

Thanks copacetic, I'm not too worried about signing anyone up. If anyone is interested they can express it here with a post and once I have them in you can get them on a first come first served basis.

If you are sure you want one, PM or email me in galway & I can secure one for you. I would hope to have 15-20 people interested and be able to provide them at €120 for boards members only.

copacetic

Cool, I'll take one at that price for sure.

JohnnyBingo

copacetic wrote: »

Cool, I'll take one at that price for sure.

Put me down for one too. Cheers

Running Fool

Yeah I'd be interested in one also.

Thanks