190 euromillions winner trying to win again

Lapin

El Weirdo wrote: »

At 4 quid a week, I'd say it'd take a while.

He still has the same chance of winning as everyone else that enters, no?

He has the same chance in terms of the numbers playing but the odds of winning it twice are far, far greater than winning it once.

28064212

Lapin wrote: »

He has the same chance in terms of the numbers playing but the odds of winning it twice are far, far greater than winning it once.

But he's already won it once, so from this point in time, he has exactly the same odds of winning it as I do (well, not me, but someone who actually buys a ticket).

The odds of a coin flip showing two heads in a row is 1 in 4. The odds of a coin flip showing a second head after already returning a head is 1 in 2.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

So what OP???

JohnMarston

Im surprised there isnt a regulation that you cannot win that sort of money from the euromillions twice

smash

JohnMarston wrote: »

Im surprised there isnt a regulation that you cannot win that sort of money from the euromillions twice

why would there be?

JohnMarston

smash wrote: »

why would there be?

I dunno, give someone else a chance?

El Weirdo

up for anything wrote: »

Bit of a cheapskate though - shopping spree in Tescos and the Disney store.

I know you were probably joking but he probably doesn't want the money to change him - hence the shopping in Tesco and buying a 4 quid lotto ticket every week. Maybe he feels that in some small way it'll help keep him grounded.

JohnMarston wrote: »

I dunno, give someone else a chance?

*sigh*

Quorum

Well, it's grand if he wants to do it, but he'll never win the top jackpot again. His odds of doing so have now considerably lengthened.

Einhard

What a sad article. The man spends £4 fuppin on a the Lotto and we're supposed to condemn him? Jebus Christ, that's sad. A lot of peope like tdoing the Lotto for the sake of it. I doubt he seriously thinks he'll win again, but just thinks "why not?". Seriously, the people condemning him need to get over themselves.

28064212

Quorum wrote: »

Well, it's grand if he wants to do it, but he'll never win the top jackpot again. His odds of doing so have now considerably lengthened.

No. Just no

Kintarō Hattori

Perhaps the fellow has amazing plans for that the €190 million he won. Maybe he's going to do fantastic things to help the needy and suffering and more dosh would allow him to do even greater things.

You don't know the guy, you don't know his plans, perhaps it's best not to judge his motives.




Granted I know it's unlikely but he's not harming anyone so I really don't see the issue here. Leave him be.

Quorum

28064212 wrote: »

No. Just no

Not no. Probability and all.

28064212

Quorum wrote: »

Not no. Probability and all.

A whole six posts before your first one

28064212 wrote: »

But he's already won it once, so from this point in time, he has exactly the same odds of winning it as I do (well, not me, but someone who actually buys a ticket).

The odds of a coin flip showing two heads in a row is 1 in 4. The odds of a coin flip showing a second head after already returning a head is 1 in 2.

westies4ever

really stupid thread :cool:

JohnMarston

Quorum wrote: »

Not no. Probability and all.

Probability of winning would remain the same

bluecode

I think he was foolish to go public. As for him buying another ticket, well it's hardly neccessary but it's actually something I would do too. For the hell of it. Ironically he has exactly the same chance as anyone else.

But I think somehow he's trying to cling onto his normality because it really hasn't sunk in with him how much his life has changed. It will probably take a few incidents like this to make him realise his old life is gone forever. Getting stalked by a Sun reporter is only the start.

Big wins like this have destroyed people but many adjust to it. I think Dolores Keane is an example of this. She seems to have handled it quite well considering.

If I had won it, you would never know about it. The press would be killing themselves trying to figure it out.:D

Quorum

28064212 wrote: »

A whole six posts before your first one

JohnMarston wrote: »

Probability of winning would remain the same

OK then, even with the exact same odds, those odds are tiny and I'm quite happy to say he won't win again.

B.A._Baracus

I have to laugh ...

There seems to be a thread in After Hours about him winning the 190 million. With such delightful comments as:

Fúcker.

The c*nt.

But i'm the begrudger, eh?
Or perhaps I have it backwards. Its 'begrudgery' to comment about him trying to win it again, but its not 'begrudgery' to call him a cunt for winning it in the first place

Dave0301

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I have to laugh ...

There seems to be a thread in After Hours about him winning the 190 million. With such delightful comments as:





But i'm the begrudger, eh?
Or perhaps I have it backwards. Its 'begrudgery' to comment about him trying to win it again, but its not 'begrudgery' to call him a cunt for winning it in the first place

No no, you're a begrudger too. The same as those posters from the other thread.

Teyla Emmagan

I don't like him, and I'm not happy for him.

Not ONE bit!

ArseLtd

He'd be more of an ass not to keep buying tickets. Without people buying tickets nobody could win.

PizzamanIRL

What an idiot going public with a 4 year old son after winning all that money.

Surely it'd be more greedy if after winning he stopped contributing to the pot??

That four pounds is the four pounds that somebody could win. If it happens to be him that wins it, fair play to him.

Nux

Who gives a fúck??

Jamlad

just cause he won doesnt stop his entitlement to try and win more ?! everyone has the same chance/odds. one can never have too much money! maybe we should all try and become friends with him and hope he wins again :L

saiint

if i won the 190mill
id guarrentee you id lost at least half of it gambling for the rest of me life
nothing like a good buzz :P

BBDBB

at the rate he earns interest on 190 million he probably "earned" the €4 whilst he was wandering around the shop

meandmypalimmy

tut tut

featherlite

If a 4euro punt is a conversation topic has anyone even bothered to consider how much he'd have left after throwing his 4 euro over the counter ? eu 189,999,996 How will he pay the milkman ? :-)

pauldleon

where can I buy a myrtle in Galway

Pj!

BEASTERLY wrote: »

With his lad on his shoulder? Some people have it all!:mad:

Hahaha. Well done sir.

Pj!

For all people know he was getting the tickets as some sort of joke.

And I'm sure he's not the richest person to have ever bought a ticket.

1ZRed

Statistically speaking, this guy is a moron

28064212

1ZRed wrote: »

Statistically speaking, this guy is a moron

"Statistically speaking", he has exactly the same chance of winning as anyone else

Fighting Irish

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Thought i'd post this:



http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4493496/148m-not-enough-for-you-Adrian-Bayford.html


Greed. Utter greed.
he wins 190 million euro. Wants to win it again.

:rolleyes:

1ZRed

28064212 wrote: »

"Statistically speaking", he has exactly the same chance of winning as anyone else

Not when you've won it once already. The odds increase hugely because of the odds it took him the previous time x by the odds he could win it this time. That's not how you work it out, and it's not that easy, but I forget the maths formula you learn in the Leaving cert for it. So it would be statistically very near impossible for him to win again.

28064212

1ZRed wrote: »

Not when you've won it once already. The odds increase hugely because of the odds it took him the previous time x by the odds he could win it this time. That's not how you work it out, and it's not that easy, but I forget the maths formula you learn in the Leaving cert for it. So it would be statistically very near impossible for him to win again.

Don't call someone a moron if you don't understand basic (Junior Cert) probability

The odds of two coin flips showing two heads in a row is 1 in 4. If I flip a coin once and it comes up heads, what are the odds that my second flip will also show up heads (having already gotten one head)?

B.A._Baracus

Fighting Irish wrote: »

:rolleyes:

FYP!!!!!
and that applies to everyone else who called me a "begruder" :rolleyes:

What if you won €190 million euro Fighting Irish tho? Honestly, what would you do? (its a fair question, i also ask this to everyone)

Quit your job? Go on a random holiday to a place you always wanted? perhaps buy that car you also always wanted? ... Maybe buy gifts for those close around you?

Would you really be seen coming out of a Tesco EXACTLY ONE WEEK later trying to win the lotto again? ... Because you feel "your luck is in" - trying to win MORE money? ... but would you not be content with the 190 million you already have? .. more importantly the shock of winning it and realising you can do whatever you wanted. Would that not be the first thing on your mind?

It is not the sign of a 'greedy' nature to say to ones self "meh, 190 million is nice... but 220 million would be better. my luck is in. I'm going to do the lotto again"

But I can't help but mention his wife was quoted, by the BBC, as saying "I'm Scottish, we're known for being tight, I'll still be hitting the sales."

Cee-Jay-Cee

I agree it seems a but greedy but good luck to him. I can see his 190 million bringing a lot of problems for him down the line. It's simply way too much money for one person to win.

RobbingBandit

A wise man once said if I win that €190,000,000 I am gonna put it all on 13 black in Vegas Baby.

Btw that wise man was me.

MagicRon

1ZRed wrote: »

Not when you've won it once already. The odds increase hugely because of the odds it took him the previous time x by the odds he could win it this time. That's not how you work it out, and it's not that easy, but I forget the maths formula you learn in the Leaving cert for it. So it would be statistically very near impossible for him to win again.

Silly logic!

Richard Hillman

Basically what happened was:

Lotto winner goes into town with his son

He is followed by Sun journo stalking him, dieing to make a story that he can sell to the underclasses.

The Lotto winner (sick of a rodent following him) is asked by the man from The Sun "Are you going to buy any more lotto tickets?". Lotto winner replies with "meh".

The Sun fills the front page

MagicRon

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Basically what happened was:

Lotto winner goes into town with his son

He is followed by Sun journo stalking him, dieing to make a story that he can sell to the underclasses.

The Lotto winner (sick of a rodent following him) is asked by the man from The Sun "Are you going to buy any more lotto tickets?". Lotto winner replies with "meh".

The Sun fills the front page

The man wins another 30 million

Repeat

Fixed

ScumLord

bluecode wrote: »

I think he was foolish to go public.

Yeah, it's not like it's hard to hide the fact you've got €190 million, all you have to do is not spend any and continue on as if nothing has happened.

I don't see what's wrong with what he's doing, he may well see it as continuing to support a worthy cause that's changed his life and will go on to change other peoples lives.

B.A._Baracus

ScumLord wrote: »

Yeah, it's not like it's hard to hide the fact you've got €190 million, all you have to do is not spend any and continue on as if nothing has happened.

I do believe the commonly used phrase for if you win the lotto is "thats why you keep quiet and get the f*ck out of it" :P - and its quite true.

You go public you get people knocking at your door day and night and a mailbox full of people all looking for a hand out. Its happened to many a lotto winner time and time again. Not to mention security risks. It is foolish, and dangerous, to go public.

areyawell

If you win the lotto the week before doesnt that increase your chances of winning the lotto by like a million percent the following week?

Fighting Irish

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

FYP!!!!!
and that applies to everyone else who called me a "begruder" :rolleyes:

What if you won €190 million euro Fighting Irish tho? Honestly, what would you do? (its a fair question, i also ask this to everyone)

Quit your job? Go on a random holiday to a place you always wanted? perhaps buy that car you also always wanted? ... Maybe buy gifts for those close around you?

Would you really be seen coming out of a Tesco EXACTLY ONE WEEK later trying to win the lotto again? ... Because you feel "your luck is in" - trying to win MORE money? ... but would you not be content with the 190 million you already have? .. more importantly the shock of winning it and realising you can do whatever you wanted. Would that not be the first thing on your mind?

It is not the sign of a 'greedy' nature to say to ones self "meh, 190 million is nice... but 220 million would be better. my luck is in. I'm going to do the lotto again"

But I can't help but mention his wife was quoted, by the BBC, as saying "I'm Scottish, we're known for being tight, I'll still be hitting the sales."

If i won 190mil i wouldn't give a fook about anything, i think he just doesn't care and he's like fook it, i'll spend 4€ of my 190mil

1ZRed

28064212 wrote: »

Don't call someone a moron if you don't understand basic (Junior Cert) probability

The odds of two coin flips showing two heads in a row is 1 in 4. If I flip a coin once and it comes up heads, what are the odds that my second flip will also show up heads (having already gotten one head)?

No sorry this is my fault for being unclear. If he was going at the lotto again (taking this on it's own, disregarding the last one) yes, he would have just as much chance of winning as anyone else and I agree with that. 
But, if you looked at it as a whole, stepped back and included the last lotto and this, the odds of him winning that one AND this one would be too great. That's my point. 

Sindri

ScumLord wrote: »

Yeah, it's not like it's hard to hide the fact you've got €190 million, all you have to do is not spend any and continue on as if nothing has happened.

I don't see what's wrong with what he's doing, he may well see it as continuing to support a worthy cause that's changed his life and will go on to change other peoples lives.

He's Scottish. The Euromillion lotto commission people probably offered him a greasy frying pan in exchange for the wining ticket and he's regretting not taken it so he's trying to win it again.

TheChizler

1ZRed wrote: »

No sorry this is my fault for being unclear. If he was going at the lotto again (taking this on it's own, disregarding the last one) yes, he would have just as much chance of winning as anyone else and I agree with that. 
But, if you looked at it as a whole, stepped back and included the last lotto and this, the odds of him winning that one AND this one would be too great. That's my point. 

Well, since he has already won the first one, the probability of him winning that is 1. Therefore, for him, the probability of winning a second time is the same as the rest of us winning for the first time. I think what you may mean is that it's much more unlikely for someone in general to win a second time, not him specifically.

You could argue that it could be even more likely for him to win than everyone else, as he has the capability of buying 47.5 million tickets.

Edit: cleared up something