Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. [US] ** Spoilers **

Never happen, as they'll be cancelled before a chance, but a great way to bring "good" Ward back.

If, like Gemma is amazed by, the Matr.. Framework is creating real minds with independent personalities.

Framework Ward in a LMD

FreudianSlippers

Deleted User wrote: »

Never happen, as they'll be cancelled before a chance, but a great way to bring "good" Ward back.

If, like Gemma is amazed by, the Matr.. Framework is creating real minds with independent personalities.

Framework Ward in a LMD

Agents of Hydra is a 6 episode arc (7 if you don't count the 2-hour finale as 1 episode; i.e. a 22 episode season) as with Ghost Rider and LMD earlier in Season 4, the AoH storyline will wrap before end of season. So the Mack Framework storyline will occur/conclude this season.

Furthermore, AoS has a very good L+3 rating and, with the new Inhumans show coming out, AoS will almost certainly either get (a) a full season back-to-back with the Inhumans show or (b) a 14-episode season as a tie-in with Inhumans (latter probably more likely).

Keep in mind, this show has never performed well on live ratings and there are FAR weaker shows on the network that haven't been axed just yet. Conviction is the only owned show that is gone so far, so expect to see Quantico, American Crime and The Catch axed ahead of AoS; Imaginary Mary is probably a gonner too, but not really in the same renew/cancel pool as AoS.

Penn

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

So the Mack Framework storyline will occur/conclude this season.

I think he was just talking about bringing Ward back as opposed to responding to my comment about Mack.

FreudianSlippers

I see now... saying they will find a way to get Framework Ward out of the Framework and into an LMD body.

That'd be a bit much IMO.

Penn

Penn wrote: »

I think he was just talking about bringing Ward back as opposed to responding to my comment about Mack.

Yes, yes I was.
A facsimile of Ward; or Ward as Daisy thought he should have been

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

I see now... saying they will find a way to get Framework Ward out of the Framework and into an LMD body.

That'd be a bit much IMO.

Yeah but not much more crazy than downloading forever into the Framework

Penn

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes, yes I was.
A facsimile of Ward; or Ward as Daisy thought he should have been

I doubt it, tbh. As much as I'm glad to see him back, I think this is more just about closure for his character and his relationship with Daisy, as we never fully got that when he was replaced with Hive.

Penn

Penn wrote: »

I doubt it, tbh. As much as I'm glad to see him back, I think this is more just about closure for his character and his relationship with Daisy, as we never fully got that when he was replaced with Hive.

Oh I'm not saying that they will but just that it's a golden opportunity if they were going to

Mr E

Really loved that episode. They are turning everything on its head and it's great fun to see everything being twisted.

Elizabeth Henstridge was phenomenal. That girl can seriously act when she is given good material to work with.

pixelburp

Henstridge was fantastic but I dearly wanted her to get a glass of water or something; she sounded legitimately parched.

Crazy table turning though, begs the question what will happen when (presumably ) the framework is shut off. I suspect a lot of awkward questions and souk searching.

expectationlost

is that jemma post death voice?

CastorTroy

I'm sure you'd sound a bit dry if you just came out of the ground. She does wear jeans well though.

I liked his they explained how everyone is the way they are. Thought it would be the tagger that helped Simmons find the resistance. Though he seemed young to have his own car.

Clearly Aida believes Fitz will remember if he sees Gemma

FunLover18

CastorTroy wrote:

Clearly Aida believes Fitz will remember if he sees Gemma

I wonder if they have met in the framework? Before she died

polydactyl

FunLover18 wrote: »

I wonder if they have met in the framework? Before she died

Probably not more than very briefly as evil Fitz shouldn't exist if he knew her. AIDA has totally stolen the Fitzsimmons story for herself "see promo with Him saying "I crossed the universe for you"

As a side note Mallory Jansen is also doing a fab job!

pjohnson

Cant find url but the official sneak peek for tonight showed a student from Coulsons class. This student is actually Clark Greggs RL daughter

pjohnson

No clue how to tag spoiler/or if promos are even a spoiler BUT I wouldnt fully bet against Ward leaving the Framework and returning in some form. I do think (90% sure) it is someone else who will take their Framework identity and bring it into the main reality.

pixelburp

pjohnson wrote: »

No clue how to tag spoiler/or if promos are even a spoiler BUT I wouldnt fully bet against Ward leaving the Framework and returning in some form. I do think (90% sure) it is someone else who will take their Framework identity and bring it into the main reality.

Spoiler-tagging can be done using the below tags (remove the extra spacing between the brackets & text).

[ SPOILER ]My spoiler goes here [ /SPOILER ]

Brief_Lives

It would be great if anti-Ward came over to real life.. he's a great character... and it's a real nod to fake comic deaths...

pjohnson

Thank You. My possible spoiler (unless you've watched promo for tonight) is below.

My bet regarding what makes it over from the Framework would be the Inhumanity of Mace. It'd be an easier sell than Ward returning. Could spin it as his conciousness retaining the capabilities he had combined with the exposure to the serum that has now given him his enhanced Strength/Stamina/Durability permanently.

CastorTroy

And to answer your other question, yeah promos are considered spoilers as some don't watch them because they tend to give things away.

pjohnson

CastorTroy wrote: »

And to answer your other question, yeah promos are considered spoilers as some don't watch them because they tend to give things away.

So I did the right thing above?

CastorTroy

Yep. thanks. I'm one of those who doesn't watch promos

pjohnson

CastorTroy wrote: »

Yep. thanks. I'm one of those who doesn't watch promos

Cool then dont click above until like 3am haha

Agent Coulson

Fitz and Gemma are having another great arc who would have thought the two nerd scientists from the pilot would turn out to be maybe the best charterers on the show with some great arc stories.

gazzer

Fantastic Episode last night. Anybody notice the link with the latest ep of Prison Break I presume it was intentional.

pjohnson

I really enjoy Mace as a character hes been a great addition.

Agent Coulson

:eek::eek::eek::eek: don't click unless you have seen Spoiler:

...........Trip.............

:D:D:D

Also Fitz dad reveal was/is a bit of a let down so far.



Mace became the the Hero he always wanted to be in the real world.

RobbingBandit

Loving evil Fitz he's just so to the point, hope I get to see this episode tonight somehow otherwise it'll be the middle of next week before I can

Blazer

Fantastic episode, AoS is my favourite show without a doubt and really hope they keep it going. The writing has been top notch this season.

pixelburp

Blimey if EvilFitz isn't the nastiest villain this show has had. A bit of a shame it all boils down to the "daddy issues" trope, but the performance and casual cruelty really hits the mark.

Though the worse things get the harder it is to think how the gang'll walk away from all this intact. Mack in particular seems a prime candidate for emotional distress.

Blazer

pixelburp wrote: »

Blimey if EvilFitz isn't the nastiest villain this show has had. A bit of a shame it all boils down to the "daddy issues" trope, but the performance and casual cruelty really hits the mark.

Though the worse things get the harder it is to think how the gang'll walk away from all this intact. Mack in particular seems a prime candidate for emotional distress.

I reckon May will come out of it fine and dandy, prob Fitz too really but I reckon Jemma on the other hand as well as Mack will be badly affected.