Xbox 360 to Jamma?

safetyboy

What way do you lot go about this, I've been on to Ronnie and he say's something like this -

http://www.canadianjoysticks.com/akishop-ps360-controller-board/

(will this involve a lot of rewiring?)

I'm in the process of (maybe 90% sure) getting a cab off Ronnie, but want to do this right, the only Jamma PCB I have is an old Spiderman game that after spending all that money on a cab I dont want to be stuck playing this for the next few months. :pac:

So I need to be able to hook the 360 up for some shmup and street fight axion..

Cheers

Casey120

I know a guy called villetim on shmups who makes console to jamma adapters :

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=28069

Steve X2

Would you not get or make some hacked 360 pads and the 360 VGA adapter?
That's what I've done and I think a few others here. Works very well indeed.

safetyboy

Steve SI wrote: »

Would you not get or make some hacked 360 pads and the 360 VGA adapter?
That's what I've done and I think a few others here. Works very well indeed.

I could but I'm still not sure what I need to buy so I can have it ready when the cab arrives. Cheers for the info, so much on the web its confusing.

Steve X2

safetyboy wrote: »

I could but I'm still not sure what I need to buy so I can have it ready when the cab arrives. Cheers for the info, so much on the web its confusing.

Needed:
1 or 2 hacked Xbox 360 controllers (make them or buy them from HarumaN over on Arcade Otaku)
1 VGA adapter for the 360 (pretty easy to come by)
An Audio/VGA switch to make things easy and some connectors/adapters to change the audio plugs to the needed type (a few of us have done this so can tell you what you need)

Then you'll need some amp up connectors and wires and stuff to make it nice and easy to switch from the standard JAMMA button setup to the 360.

It sounds like a lot but the hacked pads are the hardest part and if you can get them made by HarumaN then you're sorted as he does great work on them.

Andrew76

safetyboy wrote: »

I could but I'm still not sure what I need to buy so I can have it ready when the cab arrives. Cheers for the info, so much on the web its confusing.

Do you know if the cab monitor is tri-sync (supports 15/24/31kHz)? If you want to connect the 360 directly using VGA then I think it has to be tri-sync i.e. the monitor will run at 31kHz (hi res).

My set up is similar to Steve's in that I have a 360 + pad hacks + VGA audio/video switcher to switch between 360 and Mame pc. Not sure you'd need a switcher if it's really only the 360 you'll be using. I wanted my 360 to run in low res mode (15kHz) so I added a few extra gubbins between the 360 and VGA switcher but you probably don't need to worry about. (RGB SCART out + Sync Strike + Extron RGB 580xi)

As mentioned, there are a few of us here that should be able to help with any questions.

safetyboy

Yeah its a tri-sync monitor think its auto switch too. So whats a VGA/Audio switcher?


Any links would be great.

Cheers, and i might also throw in a mame PC too until I can save some money.

Steve X2

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000ZBHXZ4/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00



http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003VD56JS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00



http://www.adverts.ie/audio-cables/new-3-5-mm-stereo-jack-to-2-rca-cinch-socket-audio-adapter/1470127


http://www.adverts.ie/cables/new-gold-plated-3-5-mm-male-jack-to-jack-3-5-mm-female-jack-extension-cable-1m/1470207

safetyboy

Gentleman. cheers.

TechnoFreek

What cab you thinking of getting from Ronnie safetyboy?

safetyboy

TechnoFreek wrote: »

What cab you thinking of getting from Ronnie safetyboy?

One of these puppies

http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/Sega_Net_City

He's offered my a few others, but still not 100% on what I want.

TechnoFreek

Are they not wired for JVS instead of jamma. Could be wrong on that.

Andrew76

TechnoFreek wrote: »

Are they not wired for JVS instead of jamma. Could be wrong on that.

According to that wiki it's JVS alright. Unless he's done a Jamma conversion on it.

safetyboy

TechnoFreek wrote: »

Are they not wired for JVS instead of jamma. Could be wrong on that.

"Here the pics of the Sega New Net City in stock now

Screen is very good, no burn in and good geometry !
Overall condition also good, check attached pictures
All keys are included and a manual (Japanese)
Wiring is JVS
2 Buttonlooms are Jamma"


??? I'm confused.

TechnoFreek

Not sure what he means by 2 button looms are jamma. Worth dropping him a mail back to explicitly telling him that you are looking for jamma wiring.

Some of the others guys here might be able to shed light on the matter, I'm just starting out as well!

safetyboy

Will do that, better getting this thing right first go

Its such a lot of money to spend without getting it right too.

unky chop chop

Yeah if it's JVS then you'll have to get a JVS to jamma converter board and bits and bobs.

Remember looking up on them a while ago when there was a Naomi on Adverts and the I/O boards cost a good few extra quid,I'm sure there is other ways round it now but don't really know.
Confirm with Ronnie,for the money he charges you don't really want that extra hassle.
If it's JVS then maybe safer and less hassle free to go for Jamma cab for more of an out of the box solution
Good luck

safetyboy

From Ronnie

"Hi

For Jamma games on a New Net City you need a JVS-Jamma converter
You can order one at Arace Otaku for 130 euro I believe

The Blast is already Jamma and JVS ready

Egret 's are rare and hard to find"

TechnoFreek

Hmmm. Ronnie was being a bit oblique with the truth suggesting a new net city cab to you while at the same time you were asking about an Xbox to jamma adaptor.

Myrddin

safetyboy wrote: »

From Ronnie

"Hi

For Jamma games on a New Net City you need a JVS-Jamma converter
You can order one at Arace Otaku for 130 euro I believe

The Blast is already Jamma and JVS ready

Egret 's are rare and hard to find"

He's giving you the price of the needed part, & telling you it's 'Jamma Ready'. Why so vague?

safetyboy

@EnterNow The original New net was sold but he offered me a Blast City after that.

So..



"Here the pics of the Sega New Net City in stock now

Screen is very good, no burn in and good geometry !
Overall condition also good, check attached pictures
All keys are included and a manual (Japanese)
Wiring is JVS
2 Buttonlooms are Jamma"

But he said he would have another New net early next week.

Second offer when the New Net was sold....



"The Blast is already Jamma and JVS ready"

I'm glad I asked here first



http://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1978 Interesting.

Steve X2

safetyboy wrote: »

@EnterNow The original New net was sold but he offered me a Blast City after that.

So..



"Here the pics of the Sega New Net City in stock now

Screen is very good, no burn in and good geometry !
Overall condition also good, check attached pictures
All keys are included and a manual (Japanese)
Wiring is JVS
2 Buttonlooms are Jamma"

But he said he would have another New net early next week.

Second offer when the New Net was sold....



"The Blast is already Jamma and JVS ready"

I'm glad I asked here first



http://forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1978 Interesting.

That AO link looks really bad imho. Way to much stuff installed internally and it looks awful with all the blue leds.
Don't get me wrong, I like my blue leds and mods, but inside my pc gaming rig and not installed in a beautiful candy cab (a candy cab is a piece of art which should be restored and loved, not visually raped :eek:, again I stress IMHO).

So in summary:


Here's a couple of pics for those who didn't check out the link:

safetyboy

Totally, but just amazed at the stuff you can get running in one. I just wanted to sit down and play some shmups on a candy. Looks not to be that easy.

Steve X2

safetyboy wrote: »

Totally, but just amazed at the stuff you can get running in one. I just wanted to sit down and play some shmups on a candy. Looks not to be that easy.

It's very easy, it just all cost money which is the problem

All you need to do is get a nice base cab, make sure the monitor is good (especially from Ronnie as he hasn't a clue about what is and isnt good geometry no matter what anyone says about him) and you can upgrade and replace all the internals over time.

Get yourself a nice MVS 1 slot or something like that on the cheap with a multicart and you will be ready with a few decent games by the time the candy arrives. Would be terrible to have it arrive and have nothing to put in it for weeks/months.

safetyboy

Cheers Steve, Looking at 161 MVS cart at the moment, it's 80€ Whats the going rate for an MVS slot 1?

TechnoFreek

Coincidentally, I dropped Ronnie a mail about cabs a few weeks. He was quick to offer up those New Net Cities to me as well. I'd say he got a container of them and probably wants to off load them before getting more.

Just a hunch

safetyboy

TechnoFreek wrote: »

Coincidentally, I dropped Ronnie a mail about cabs a few weeks. He was quick to offer up those New Net Cities to me as well. I'd say he got a container of them and probably wants to off load them before getting more.

Just a hunch

You reckon he would do a deal on shipping on 2 candys? If you are ordering let me know.

safetyboy

Any one ever dealt with this crowd?

http://www.neo-legend.com/fiche_produit_2348_index_flash.php_SEGA%20NEW%20ASTRO%20CITY%20-%20NA002

Steve X2

safetyboy wrote: »

Any one ever dealt with this crowd?

http://www.neo-legend.com/fiche_produit_2348_index_flash.php_SEGA%20NEW%20ASTRO%20CITY%20-%20NA002

I have in the past but only for smaller items and not a full candy.
No problems with them, but as I said, smaller items.


Edit:
They also have an Egret 2 in stock in case you missed it.

safetyboy

Just emailed them about shipping, fingers crossed.

http://neo-arcadia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=22311

TechnoFreek

safetyboy wrote: »

You reckon he would do a deal on shipping on 2 candys? If you are ordering let me know.

Ha! Sorry man. Like you I'm looking for a jamma cab. New net city is too much work. I refused one from Ronnie already!

safetyboy

TechnoFreek wrote: »

Ha! Sorry man. Like you I'm looking for a jamma cab. New net city is too much work. I refused one from Ronnie already!

I'm after Jamma too

http://www.biggames.fr/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=6&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=27

CathalDublin

Jeff has one or two nice Candys at the moment
http://www.jammaplus.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40775&title=candy-cab-monitor-sale

TechnoFreek

CathalDublin wrote: »

Jeff has one or two nice Candys at the moment
http://www.jammaplus.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40775&title=candy-cab-monitor-sale

Looking at one of these myself. Trying to make contact with Jeff is nigh on impossible!

KeRbDoG

safetyboy wrote: »

Just emailed them about shipping, fingers crossed.

http://neo-arcadia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=22311

Oh interesting, let us know how much shipping is per cab to Ireland

safetyboy

Emailed jeff a week ago, no reply.

Ronnie has another new net, and he can jamma convert it for an extra €95 is that a good deal?

TechnoFreek

safetyboy wrote: »

Emailed jeff a week ago, no reply.

Aahh, Jeff and his black hole mailbox. Mails go in but never come out!

safetyboy

So hard to try buy a cab.

safetyboy

http://www.neo-legend.com/

€300 delivery from that place seems a bit high?

TechnoFreek

Yeah. Defo. Ronnie is approx 200 euro for delivery from Holland. Jeff is approx £100 sterling from the uk.

KeRbDoG

safetyboy wrote: »

http://www.neo-legend.com/

€300 delivery from that place seems a bit high?

Maybe if folks did a group buy/ship it would be cheaper?

safetyboy

Ronnie will do 1 xbox bad hack for €95 on the net city too, plus €95 to jamma convert is looking like my only option. Shipping is €195.

decisions mmmm.

Myrddin

safetyboy wrote: »

Ronnie will do 1 xbox bad hack for €95 on the net city too, plus €95 to jamma convert is looking like my only option. Shipping is €195.

decisions mmmm.

£95 for one pad hack? Jeez I'm in the wrong game

safetyboy

EnterNow wrote: »

£95 for one pad hack? Jeez I'm in the wrong game

How much do you charge for the pad hack?

Myrddin

safetyboy wrote: »

How much do you charge for the pad hack?

Not something I do really, I done it for Andrew as a favour only as he was stuck

safetyboy

EnterNow wrote: »

Not something I do really, I done it for Andrew as a favour only as he was stuck

I will probably do it myself. What tutorial did you follow?

Myrddin

safetyboy wrote: »

I will probably do it myself. What tutorial did you follow?

Afaik Andrew sent me the details, no idea what tut it was. Once you've a multimeter you can figure it out easy enough anyway

o1s1n

safetyboy wrote: »

Emailed jeff a week ago, no reply.

Ronnie has another new net, and he can jamma convert it for an extra €95 is that a good deal?

Unless Jeff actually lists machines up somewhere (he put up 4-6 on AO a couple of weeks back) then good luck to you buying one from him. It's impossible.

Emails will get you absolutely nowhere. I tried for months. I stopped short of ringing the chap, you could always try that.

Andrew76

safetyboy wrote: »

Ronnie will do 1 xbox bad hack for €95 on the net city too, plus €95 to jamma convert is looking like my only option. Shipping is €195.

decisions mmmm.

Last time I read up on it his prices exclude the price of the controllers themselves. They're fairly cheap for him to buy over in the States rather than you shipping them over.

AO link

ArcadeControls link

Can't remember where I located a tutorial from unless one is linked in either of the above. There's a few youtube vids on it also.

safetyboy

Might try ringing him in the morning then as UK should be cheaper shipping.

safetyboy

http://biggames.fr/


250 - 300 shipping