Breaking Bad 5x08 - Gliding Over All [**SPOILERS WITHIN**]

funky penguin

Rosy Posy wrote: »

I liked the way that in the scene where Skyler comes to visit, Holly had been 'purpled'!

That was a nice little touch.

Aww man, I can't wait now.......this wait is just too much, IT'S TOO MUCH! ;_;

Kilkenny14

Hank v Walter is going to be a good finale - which now means I have to re-watch the scene with Walt in the diner to get new clues.

Nine months... [sigh]

banquo

Loved it.

Making me wait 9 months is simply unforgivable.

FloatingVoter

It depends how Hank handles his revelation. He has no proof just suspicion so if he confronts Walt with that - RIP Hank.
Or he'll play along, maybe even move from home brew beer into home brew meth.
The fact that Jesse had a gun and was fully prepared to kill Walt might be more of a reveal to how this ends. Jesse won't rest easy until the coward Walter White is dead.
Excellent way to end the first half of the last season of the best show I've ever seen (apart from Cheers).

JohnK

Liam O wrote: »

Really thought that with the wide shots of them by the pool that something violent was going to happen, like Todd's uncles show up and start shooting or something like that

Yeah, I was expecting a load of shooters or a bomb to go off

FloatingVoter wrote: »

The fact that Jesse had a gun and was fully prepared to kill Walt might be more of a reveal to how this ends. Jesse won't rest easy until the coward Walter White is dead.

I thought it was more Jessie was expecting Walt to try and kill him and tie up another lose end. If anything, now Jessie realises that while he was thinking the worst about Walt and getting ready to shoot him (again!), Walt was instead dropping off bags full of money and trying to mend bridges.

johnny_ultimate

Was wondering even up to the last minute if there was going to be a gamechanger. The episode just seemed to keen to establish a status quo. Shouldn't have doubted them

Brilliantly directed episode too. The montages are obviously the highlight, and there was a lot of extremely clever jumpcutting in the second one particularly. But there was a sense of... unease throughout the rest of the episode too. Felt extremely moody.

dave1982

Anyone have a total death toll for Walter?

FloatingVoter

dave1982 wrote: »

Anyone have a total death toll for Walter?

One directly...Mike. Walter lets other people do the dirty work. He has killed people long distance with poison.

Ruski

FloatingVoter wrote: »

One directly...Mike. Walter lets other people do the dirty work. He has killed people long distance with poison.

Krazy 8? The Mexican dealers that Jesse was after for using kids? Anyone else?

Penn

FloatingVoter wrote: »

One directly...Mike. Walter lets other people do the dirty work. He has killed people long distance with poison.

He killed two of Gus' drug dealers (hit one with car, shot the other) before Jesse could do it, and killed two more when rescuing Jesse from the meth lab before they torched it. Then there's Krazy-8 and his cousin in the first few episodes (though they were more self-defense). Gus, Hector and Tyrus can probably be attributed to Walt too even though Hector actually set off the bomb.

BetterCallSaul

BetterCallSaul wrote: »

I think they were reminding us of that for a reason. When Hank asked Walt who WW might be in season 4. That's going to click with Hank eventually.

Called it right, back in the episode 3 thread :pac: The game has changed

Jambo221

dave1982 wrote: »

Anyone have a total death toll for Walter?

Directly:
Emilio
Krazy 8
2 street dealers
2 of Gus' henchmen
Mike

Indirectly: much more :P

MadPatrick

Did Walt really leave the game?? There would be a few people very upset about the money stopping.

Maybe next year Madrigal will be after him as well as Hank.

Great half season of course.

DeepBlue

I think we also need a running total of how many times Lydia has cheated imminent death this season.

It was much easier for BB to maintain tension when Walt was in direct competition with an imminent threat like Tuco, Mike or Gus so, in comparison, this season has felt a bit flat. Hopefully it's the calm before the storm.

There was also no call back to the opening scene of this series so we'll have to wait until next year to find out what that machine gun was about.

At least Hank has finally twigged - although I'd prefer if he'd found out in a different way. Via the WW inscription seemed a bit contrived.

Roll on the last eight.

Once I realised what Hank was about to find out, my heart was pounding, great TV.

Walt is not out of the game, far from it.

Penn

DeepBlue wrote: »

At least Hank has finally twigged - although I'd prefer if he'd found out in a different way. Via the WW inscription seemed a bit contrived.

I think it's been long established that it's always the little things that trip Walt up. He can help build a giant magnet to erase a computer hard drive which is inside a police evidence room, but it's the little things that catch him out. Plus in a previous episode of this season, Walt looked at the book and kinda smiled. I think he had the book almost as sort of a memento, never thinking it could lead to anything.

And I think it's the genius of Breaking Bad, that moment where after 4.5 seasons, Hank finally figures out that Walt is Heisenberg... while taking a ****.

briany

I must say this episode was a lot more low key than I was expecting. I kept an eye on the seek bar wondering when the **** would hit the fan. By the time it got to the final scene, it was obvious how it had to play.

What does Hank's new found suspicion mean for Walter exactly? Will he take the book as evidence?

briany

briany wrote: »

I must say this episode was a lot more low key than I was expecting. I kept an eye on the seek bar wondering when the **** would hit the fan. By the time it got to the final scene, it was obvious how it had to play.

What does Hank's new found suspicion mean for Walter exactly? Will he take the book as evidence?

Hank is a clever man, this is not a scene where he gets a new suspicion, but rather one of realisation. He knows that Walt is Heisenberg.

FloatingVoter

briany wrote: »

I must say this episode was a lot more low key than I was expecting. I kept an eye on the seek bar wondering when the **** would hit the fan. By the time it got to the final scene, it was obvious how it had to play.

What does Hank's new found suspicion mean for Walter exactly? Will he take the book as evidence?

Walt could easily shrug off the book inscription with an excuse. A deep audit of the magic car wash would be far harder to explain away. I'll lay money one or two of the dead prison guys kept a diary. Jesse is still in the wind. I wouldn't trust Saul as far as I'd throw him. All Hank needed was an opening to unravel the knot - now he has it.
ps. forgot about Walt's earlier victims. I'm due a rewatch. Lucky me.

Snake Plisken

Funny feeling the Neo-Nazi crowd will play some part next season. We didn't really find out what the results were of Walt's scan, after which we see him pay Jessie and pull out of the business, I would much prefer if it was more then 8 episodes next season as they will have a lot of lose ends to tie up. Great show and great season.

Penn

Sacramento wrote: »

Hank is a clever man, this is not a scene where he gets a new suspicion, but rather one of realisation. He knows that Walt is Heisenberg.

Definitely. The book isn't evidence, but more of a "Now it all makes sense..." kinda thing. We've already seen Hank be a little suspicious of Walt with things he says or does but just shrugging it off because he could never believe it could be Walt. Now he's connecting the dots.

Mc Love

Like others I thought Todd or someone else was going to rush in from the side of the house where the gate is but that ending was much better!

Paully D

Ah for **** sake, they can't make us wait another 9 months after that final scene :mad: :pac:

donfers

did hank not see that book before? why does he think it means walt is heisenberg?

yes it has his initials so what? hardly catching him red-handed is it?

if the book is incriminating walt why is he leaving it around the house

Jambo221

donfers wrote: »

did hank not see that book before? why does he think it means walt is heisenberg?

yes it has his initials so what? hardly catching him red-handed is it?

if the book is incriminating walt why is he leaving it around the house

Gale had a poem or something by Walt Whitman in his notes. The inscription on the Walt Whitman book that Walt just happened to have in his bathroom was:
"To my other favorite W.W.

It's an honour working with you.

Fondly, G.B."

All it took to put Gus Fring in Hank's sights was a Los Pollos Hermanos napkin in Gale's apartment, Walt actually left a note from Gale in his own bathroom, far more incriminating.

Mr.Crinklewood

Though Holly was going to fall into the pool.

ironictoaster

FloatingVoter wrote: »

It depends how Hank handles his revelation. He has no proof just suspicion so if he confronts Walt with that - RIP Hank.
Or he'll play along, maybe even move from home brew beer into home brew meth.
The fact that Jesse had a gun and was fully prepared to kill Walt might be more of a reveal to how this ends. Jesse won't rest easy until the coward Walter White is dead.
Excellent way to end the first half of the last season of the best show I've ever seen (apart from Cheers).

Hank doesn't have a proof, but everything makes now, buying the car wash, paying for Hank's medical bills, the fancy new watch, Walt Jr's car.

I probably missed it, but did any of the last 7 episodes relate to that scene in very first episode of this season in the diner in New Hampshire?

The pool scene was wonderful. During the whole thing I was expecting something to happen; Walt Jnr. pushing the child in the pool by accident, someone running around the corner and trying to gun them all down, or the child's first words being "Heisenberg". However the ending we got was quite wonderful.. will be interesting to see what happens when Hank returns to the pool.

Also, those were the best shanking scenes since Oz.

Penn

Deleted User wrote: »

The pool scene was wonderful. During the whole thing I was expecting something to happen; Walt Jnr. pushing the child in the pool by accident, someone running around the corner and trying to gun them all down, or the child's first words being "Heisenberg". However the ending we got was quite wonderful.. will be interesting to see what happens when Hank returns to the pool.

It would make some amount of sense; if I remember right, in a scene from a previous season (can't remember which), Walt was saying, "can you say Heisenberg?" - I might have that wrong though. Would have been a pretty funny way of finally revealing that.

briany

ironictoaster wrote: »

Hank doesn't have a proof, but everything makes now, buying the car wash, paying for Hank's medical bills, the fancy new watch, Walt Jr's car.

I probably missed it, but did any of the last 7 episodes relate to that scene in very first episode of this season in the diner in New Hampshire?

I had a theory that the diner scene is something of a red herring. That scene takes place sometime after the series as a whole ends next year. It's just a scene placed outside of the timeline that we'll see to put questions in the mind of the viewer as well as a clue to where Walter might be after the series ends.

I don't think it's showing where next year's will pick up because that would mean we'd have to see a whole lot of stuff explained in flashbacks etc. and, dammit, I want to see the immediate aftermath of Hank's realization. That is a rich resource of dramatic gold that it would be a terrific shame not to exploit. Also, Breaking Bad, until now, has been continuous in it's time frame with each season picking up exactly where the last left off. The second half of the season could end up with Walt in NH but I don't get why they'd write themselves into a corner like that and now have to figure out how to get him that point or, maybe, they already know how to and are just being teleprick teases.

Mr.Crinklewood

I want to marry Lydia. ( actress is Scottish, bad news is that she is married ).

Penn

Deleted User wrote: »

It would make some amount of sense; if I remember right, in a scene from a previous season (can't remember which), Walt was saying, "can you say Heisenberg?" - I might have that wrong though. Would have been a pretty funny way of finally revealing that.

If it was her first word, that'd be really weird.

Mr.Saturn

Does this not mean Hank will have to kill Walt, or vice versa? I mean, how will it play with Hank's superiors that he had the man he was hunting and sunk incredible resources into, Heinsenberg, under his nose for the better part of a year, and it was only now he became suspicious?

My hand was shaking after that. I, like everyone else, was expecting an AK-shootout in the back of Walt's gaf, or something equally gruesome.

ironictoaster

Deleted User wrote: »

Also, those were the best shanking scenes since Oz.

Won't be able to listen to Nat King Cole for a long time without being remind of that!

threein99

Up the Junction by Squeeze playing over the pool scene at the end, one of my all time fave songs, Im wondering to the lyrics have any relation Hank finding out

Mr.Crinklewood

When Holly speaks for the first time, he first words are likely to be "Chardonnay", or "Sauvignon Blanc".

D.Q

"rocks yeah?"

""they're minerals Marie!

latenia

When Walt said "I've left something outside for you" to Jesse I genuinely thought it was going to be a state of the art RV with a kick-ass meth lab inside, kind of like Pimp My Ride.

iainconlon12

latenia wrote: »

When Walt said "I've left something outside for you" to Jesse I genuinely thought it was going to be a state of the art RV with a kick-ass meth lab inside, kind of like Pimp My Ride.

Haha! I thought that there's be a bomb in the bags for some reason.

Mr.Saturn

iainconlon12 wrote: »

Haha! I thought that there's be a bomb in the bags for some reason.

Well, the score was certainly leading in that direction. Ominous, sinister backing tracks aren't usually something I would associate with someone about to become very wealthy. The whole time I could hear flashbacks of Gus' guttural roar as he realized there was a bomb. Of course, Jesse's variation would just be a massive "BITCH!!!".

ollie1

I thought it was going to be mike's dead body in the bag.

Mr.Crinklewood

I thought it was going to be the RV, full of money.

Was that gun definitely belong to Jess or was it in the bag?

Da Shins Kelly

Great way to create the realization for Hank. I like that it was a reference to Gale rather than Walt being ratted out by someone else. A little more subtle than an outright confession from someone else.

The prison scene was surprisingly gruesome. I don't think there's been anything so violent in the show before. Gus' death was pretty gory, but it bordered on the absurd. This scene was reminiscent of the violence in The Sopranos, to me.

I still seriously distrust Lydia. I think there's gonna be trouble there. Mike really didn't seem keen on keeping her around and was suspicious of her, and given his level-headedness, I'd be inclined to feel that there's still more to unfold there.

I honestly thought something bad was going to happen with Jesse at his house, that it would be revealed that he was dealing again on a more low-key level, like before, or something like that. There still has to be some revelation about what happened to Jane and Andrea's kid. Still think Saul might be the one to blow that one for Walt.

Redisle

And the Penny Drops! Probably the best way to describe Hanks expression at the end.

I was convinced there was going to be a phone ring from inside the toilet bowl at first but then I saw the book and knew.

They displayed the same book in a very obvious way after the shower scene at the start too so I Knew it must have had some relevance and I knew G.B was interested in Walt Whitman.

Kind of a slow episode overall but fantastic at building up tension. We knew something had to happen.

gnfnrhead

Was sure Jesse was going to spot something wrong at the start when they were setting up to dispose of Mike's body. He has a LOT to discover next year.

After seeing that pile of money Walt now has, I'd consider learning how to make Meth myself! :pac:

qz

Gotta love Up the Junction being played during that last scene, effectively meaning "you're fcuked!".

iainconlon12

I can only imagine Walt being killed now by either Hank or his recurring cancer. Hopefully the former but this next season will be full of action imo

Da Shins Kelly

iainconlon12 wrote: »

I can only imagine Walt being killed now by either Hank or his recurring cancer. Hopefully the former but this next season will be full of action imo

For some reason, I don't see it being Hank.