i see the Boys and Girls in Dail Eireann are to get free Ipads

paconnors

link waste of more funds when they are cutting health services, why not make them buy one each out of their well paid salleries, i'd say 75% of them already have ipads, let them bring them in and use them.

Varied

iPad enough of these politicians.

The_Kew_Tour

What else can you see God?

hardCopy

In fairness, it doesn't say iPads.

There are many cheaper tablets available. Maybe they'll buy up the discounted Playbooks from Curry's.

Meauldsegosha

The link says the tender is for tablet computers not iPads. Your thread title is misleading.

Dravokivich

paconnors wrote: »

i'd say 75% of them already have ipads, let them bring them in and use them.

I think the following is the reason why not:

It also requires certain security features, including encryption software and software that will wipe the device if an incorrect password is entered a number of times.

Do you really want Gov docs on someone's personal iPad?

Is there a precedence for this already, does the Gov provide PCs or Laptops for the same reason outlined above?

My name is URL

'Tender documents say the tablets will reduce paper usage'

That's because they'll be used as paperweights

ejmaztec

Our politicians have a lot in common with Apples, rotten to the core, and they get on your pip.

paconnors

hardCopy wrote: »

In fairness, it doesn't say iPads.

There are many cheaper tablets available. Maybe they'll buy up the discounted Playbooks from Curry's.

Not many tablets out there that take a sim card, so my moneys on ipad

Eathrin

iPads are shíte.
And I'd say most of them won't know how to use them.
€150'000 paper weights.

DEFTLEFTHAND

I doubt that everyone in the Dail would even be able to use an Ipad.

smash

Eathrin wrote: »

IPads are shíte.

No they're not.

Lets not let the thread spiral into a childish apple vs andoid debate and keep it as a childish government hating debate.

NoQuarter

Jaysus the govt cant spend a penny with you lot! Every room in the government buildings has a desktop computer, so what!? Its the information age and if tablets are productive well then they should have business ones! I think there is an overreaction here!

Eathrin

NoQuarter wrote: »

Jaysus the govt cant spend a penny with you lot! Every room in the government buildings has a desktop computer, so what!? Its the information age and if tablets are productive well then they should have business ones! I think there is an overreaction here!

I don't think tablets are at that stage yet.

Tombi!

Isn't this a good thing?
Less paper = easier to organize and all that?

Lawrence1895

I don't know, if some of them are even able to switch them on

shanec1928

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Isn't this a good thing?
Less paper = easier to organize and all that?

the cheapest ipad with 3g is 600 so 166 td x600 = €99,600 thats before you add on all the other staff in the dail as well.

the groutch

paconnors wrote: »

i'd say 75% of them already have ipads

and the other 25% wouldnt even know how to turn one on

yoyo

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Isn't this a good thing?
Less paper = easier to organize and all that?

Just wait until were reading about the "misplaced", "broken" or would someone train me how to use this new device becoming news after they get them. Sticking with the paper is going to cost less in the long run I would think. Also I think in the UK the parliament members got a iPad 2 a while back at tax payers expense. It was then neccesary when the iPad 3 launched, that they had to upgrade :rolleyes::rolleyes: . Whichever company who gets the support and maintenance contract for these will make a fortune at tax payers expense.

Nick

OurLadyofKnock

I want to see how good they are at Farmville and Cityville.

Tombi!

shanec1928 wrote: »

the cheapest ipad with 3g is 600 so 166 td x600 = €99,600 thats before you add on all the other staff in the dail as well.

It said tablets with 3G and did say they could be as low as 400.
So 66 grand.
Over three years and it's 22 grand a year.
That's not that bad at all.

theteal

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Isn't this a good thing?
Less paper = easier to organize and all that?

what will all the pen pushers do??? :eek:

Tombi!

theteal wrote: »

what will all the pen pushers do??? :eek:

Be there to turn on/turn off the tablets? :cool:

I can actually see that as a job "tablet operator; get your nine months experience learning how a tablet PC works".
*Okay, this is the button you press to turn it on and then you press it again to turn it off. In nine months time, you get a job IF you mastered that skill*
*nine months later: no sorry, he was no good, we need another intern*

Teyla Emmagan

Most of them will end up being used by their kids.

Leinster House, bless them, have been running a lot of free courses on 'communicating with your constituents' lately. So if anyone is wondering why they've been hearing a lot from their local TDs lately, it's because they've just learnt to do mail merges. What a system - we pay them to learn how to spam us and then we pay for the cost of delivering and printing the spam. Only in Ireland.

tayto lover

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I doubt that everyone in the Dail would even be able to use an Ipad.

They'll probably sell them.

seamus

I would agree with this on principle except that I know for a fact that 90% of these philistines will continue to have their secretary print out their emails for them while the iPad languishes at the bottom of a drawer.

gsxr1

So...

I just forked out 100s for my children school books and in years to come will probably be required to buy them Ipads.

And they get one for free, as well as a fat salary.
Real hero's of the republic they are.

Maybe there is an app to fix our screwed up country.




Dirty rotting Ireland

ejmaztec

seamus wrote: »

I would agree with this on principle except that I know for a fact that 90% of these philistines will continue to have their secretary print out their emails for them while the iPad languishes at the bottom of a drawer.

The secretaries will probably be sent out for Christmas wrapping paper so's little <insert name of the heir or heiress to the political dynasty here> will have a smile on his or her face on Christmas day.

CreepingDeath

paconnors wrote: »

Not many tablets out there that take a sim card, so my moneys on ipad

So they'll also get extra expense allowances for the data plan too...

Cassidy28

Surely they could buy these devices themselves, you know out of their basic salary, I reckon there will be a lot of bewildered and wrinkled faces by the time they get their head around this technology.

Zascar

Oh ffs. More moaning about spending. Hundreds of large corporations are giving their workforces iPads etc - for very good reason. They significantly increase productivity - something our government needs badly. They should easily prove valuable. Anything to modernise and increase productivity & effectiveness is a plus in my book

holystungun9

OurLadyofKnock wrote: »

I want to see how good they are at Farmville and Cityville.

Christ! They'll probably get an allowance or EU grants to buy vegetables and seeds and sh1te!

thewing

Ha - increase productivity? "Minister, whats your top score on Angry Birds HD?....oh yeah, Merkel is on the phone again"....

Arnold Layne

shanec1928 wrote: »

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Isn't this a good thing?
Less paper = easier to organize and all that?

the cheapest ipad with 3g is 600 so 166 td x600 = €99,600 thats before you add on all the other staff in the dail as well.

Plus the extra staff they still have to hire to show them how to use the new fangled technology

PogMoThoin

Talk about priorities here. Our ambulances drive around without GPS for fook sake

Overheal

The actual cost in parliamentary terms is peanuts (sadly).

The real issue here is it's a luxury item for the legislature, meanwhile as stated, there are more worthwhile things not being expensed.

The idea is of course to get them all to read all the bills and **** they have to sign into law as PDFs but how many of those oldies even know what a PDF is?

Overheal

Meauldsegosha wrote: »

The link says the tender is for tablet computers not iPads. Your thread title is misleading.

considering the tablet computer I own is $1125 msrp, I don't find your correction in terms the least bit comforting.

hmmm

Nothing worse than a bunch of old people playing with their new tech toys in an attempt to go "paperless". A few of them will get their money's worth, the rest will spend twice as long as they would normally spend looking for something, then give up and use the device as something to rest under their sheet of paper.

Rigol

ok I'll give you 10 points on the no shows, 5 on the union jobs and ipods for everyone.

put this bank thing to bed

Meauldsegosha

Overheal wrote: »

Meauldsegosha wrote: »

The link says the tender is for tablet computers not iPads. Your thread title is misleading.

considering the tablet computer I own is $1125 msrp, I don't find your correction in terms the least bit comforting.

Well I really don't care what you spend your money on. The fact of the matter is the OP's thread title is incorrect and therefore misleading.

Elfinknight

Cassidy28 wrote: »

Surely they could buy these devices themselves, you know out of their basic salary, I reckon there will be a lot of bewildered and wrinkled faces by the time they get their head around this technology.

Sure there's no need. We're buying the devices for them.

dirtyden

Zascar wrote: »

Oh ffs. More moaning about spending. Hundreds of large corporations are giving their workforces iPads etc - for very good reason. They significantly increase productivity - something our government needs badly. They should easily prove valuable. Anything to modernise and increase productivity & effectiveness is a plus in my book

This.

Ministers, TDs getting portable devices that allow them to work remotely or when travelling is a good idea. Most big companies do this. The company I work for dishes them out. They are not perks they are to allow you to work when on the move.

They give out company supported tablets or in this case state tablets so that they are equipped with the requisite security measures which you would not have on your own personal device.

The_Thing

Don't forget that Microsoft will have a tablet with Windows 8 available around the time the contract is due to be signed.

Wompa1

Oh Jesus I can picture it already. Somebody has some sort of important list on a server, does an RDP from there tablet, their finger slips and it goes bye bye forever