Ever been in a chipper and something was fishy?

Biggins

From The Times (England): http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/ireland/article1117172.ece

IRELAND’S food-safety watch-dog has set up a unit to tackle fraud such as pollock being substituted for cod in chip shops and criminals selling counterfeit vodka diluted with methanol.

The Food Safety Authority of Ireland (FSAI) said the taskforce was designed to reduce the amount of falsely labelled food and drink being sold and would include gardai, Customs officials, environmental health officers and representatives of local authorities.

Last year, a Europol investigation resulted in the seizure of 13,000 bottles of substandard olive oil, 77 tonnes of counterfeit cheese and 30 tonnes of fake tomato sauce.

Last year, the FSAI reported that “cod” sold at 21 of 111 takeaways, fishmongers and restaurants it surveyed was pollock, hake, smelt and haddock.

Also, researchers at University College Dublin used DNA barcoding techniques to test 226 cod products being sold in supermarkets, fishmongers and takeaway outlets across Ireland and the UK. They discovered that 37 of 131 “cod” products bought in Ireland were a cheaper species of fish.

Has anyone every kopped that they were not eating what they actually ordered?
I haven't - but I will be more checking from now on!

redzerologhlen

Biggins wrote: »

From The Times (England): http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/ireland/article1117172.ece





Has anyone every kopped that they were not eating what they actually ordered?
I haven't - but I will be more checking from now on!

You will be hard pushed to tell the difference between pollock and cod I would say, they are pretty similar.

dvpower

Biggins wrote: »

I haven't - but I will be more checking from now on!

How? Every time you buy a cod and chips, you'll send a sample to the lab?

BornToKill

It's all a big cod. Or else a red herring.

mattjack

'Hic' , can I has a leg of cod and a snatch box, pleesh ?

Lyaiera

There's a fair few chippers around here that straight up tell you that you're not going to get cod. They don't even advertise that it's cod, just that it's fish and they'll tell you what fish it is that week when you ask for fish.

There's even a couple of "gourmet" chippers. Ones that give you a choice in what fish you want. So you can get cod you'll just pay a lot more for it. I'd prefer if all chippers did this. I like having different fish, especially when I can opt for a cheaper fish or even one I prefer more (shock! Horror! People in Ireland actually have a preference in fish!)

Duff

Do my fingers after a night out count?

Biggins

dvpower wrote: »

How? Every time you buy a cod and chips, you'll send a sample to the lab?

Ask 'er indoors - she tells me constantly she knows everything!

marshbaboon

I suppose you wouldn't notice if you didn't know your fish.

I would. I'd be angry. Very angry. I fucking love cod...

redzerologhlen

Duff wrote: »

Do my fingers after a night out count?

Subtle ''I fingered a girl post'' :rolleyes:

mikemac1

Why would anyone buy counterfeit vokda

Drink has never been cheaper in the supermarkets

Biggins

mikemac1 wrote: »

Why would anyone buy counterfeit vokda

Drink has never been cheaper in the supermarkets

They didn't know it was counterfeit - which also might explain in some cases why some bottles were so cheap?

opinion guy

Isn't it old news about cod not actually being cod most of the time ?

Chuck Stone

I trust the plaice where I get fish and chips.

Biggins

opinion guy wrote: »

Isn't it old news about cod not actually being cod most of the time ?

Yea, its been mentioned before - only now they are maybe further looking into the issue officially.
They cod be doing it in case they get battered in the press for in-action!

Duff

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Subtle ''I fingered a girl post'' :rolleyes:

''Thinly veiled''

lil'bug

I'd love a big bag of chips now thanks op there goes the diet!

Biggins

lil'bug wrote: »

I'd love a big bag of chips now thanks op there goes the diet!

Your welcome?

I love the smell of a good bag of chips! :cool:

Mr Benevolent

Err, why are people commenting about the cod? Vodka diluted with methanol will kill. Talk about ignoring the important issue.

Run_to_da_hills

One of the biggest problems I had encountered with chippers, particularly busy ones after hours is being short changed. Something I am always observant of when I hand over cash. There was one in Ennis notorious for it.

Colmustard

I don't know either the fish is nice or not, which is about how much I care.

I have been to chippers and they had no fish when I asked why they said there was none at the market.

Cod is becoming an endangered specie, this wont help their beleaguered stocks.

ejmaztec

Chuck Stone wrote: »

I trust the plaice where I get fish and chips.

Our local chipper's a load of pollocks.

Herb Powell

Cod stocks are so low they shouldn't be serving it anywhere, imo. Plenty of other delicious substitutes, and white fish is all fairly similar.

Biggins

ejmaztec wrote: »

Our local chipper's a load of pollocks.

O' ruddy hell!

opinion guy

Biggins wrote: »

Yea, its been mentioned before - only now they are maybe further looking into the issue officially.
They cod be doing it in case they get battered in the press for in-action!

Tis just codology altogether :pac:

I always order haddock or some other substitute anyway. I think it's fair enough in most cases for a chipper to call their fish cod. It's not a restaurant, just a chipper, and people will demand cod just because it's the done thing and they think it's the best fish, when really they wouldn't notice the difference. For a meal costing under €10, a case of false advertising that helps save the depleting cod population and lets people wrongly convinced they need cod believe they're getting what they want isn't much of a crime in my opinion. Everyone goes away happy.

The chipper gets to save money by buying cheaper fish.
The customer gets the satisfaction of thinking they've gotten their cod.
The cod get to live to see another day.
Win win.

mikemac1

true-or-false wrote: »

The chipper gets to save money by buying cheaper fish.
The customer gets the satisfaction of thinking they've gotten their cod.

Why would you be happy with this?


If I'm paying full price I want cod

If you're serving me godsknowswhat from Vietnam then no way am I paying cod prices

RoundyMooney

They were doing this in the UK before WWII, where a tasty portion of rock salmon inevitably entailed getting a serving of dogfish or some other coarse throwaway.

Just like Maccy D's and their 100% Irish "beef".

I won't ruin your appetites by drilling down into what said beef actually consists of.

Fromthetrees

I ****ing love fish.

ejmaztec

Didn't Richard Dawkins write a book about this, The Cod Delusion?

cloud493

Well I'm not paying 7 euro for a fish from the chippy, so I wouldn't be able to tell the difference :rolleyes:

Neewbie_noob

I got battered .... It put me in my plaice ... I cod you not

B.A._Baracus

Jesus, you can make money off anything cant you :pac:

Not suprised to hear Chippers selling other fish off as cod. But the tonnes of tomato sauce being counterfeited is mad! :pac:

ringadingding

You'd want to know a halibut lot about fish to tell the difference :-)


IMO, hake makes the best fish n chips anyway.

Red Hand

ejmaztec wrote: »

Didn't Richard Dawkins write a book about this, The Cod Delusion?

Now, that was just shoe horned in there. You cod have done better.

Neewbie_noob

ejmaztec wrote: »

Didn't Richard Dawkins write a book about this, The Cod Delusion?

Make this gent a mod :laugh:

ejmaztec

Neewbie_noob wrote: »

Make this gent a mod :laugh:

That would be The Mod Delusion.:p

Biggins

Neewbie_noob wrote: »

Make this gent a mod :laugh:

Its not our plaice!

ArtyM

Sorry but I have to ask....
Wtf is counterfeit cheese?

Biggins

ArtyM wrote: »

Sorry but I have to ask....
Wtf is counterfeit cheese?

Edam if I know!

B.A._Baracus

ArtyM wrote: »

Sorry but I have to ask....
Wtf is counterfeit cheese?

Ha... its gas isnt it. Like cheese is cheese. Unless they are being made then sold with a cheese companys name on them. yeah thats counterfiet.

Or is this one big hullabaloo about people making foods but not paying tax on them? :P

Red Hand

ArtyM wrote: »

Sorry but I have to ask....
Wtf is counterfeit cheese?

As far as I know Calvita cheese isn't cheese at all. Has a number of components that go into to make it similiar to cheese, but not actually cheese.

Dozen Wicked Words

Uninteresting fact: A lot of Pizza places will sell pizzas as having "ham" on them. Lot of them don't use any pork products as they are halal so use turkey ham instead. /yawning

Neewbie_noob

dooferoaks wrote: »

Lot of them don't use any pork products as they are halal so use turkey ham instead. /yawning

I don't want to live on this planet any more.

If I'm not mistaken, I'd say Easisingles are not cheese either. Cheese in general is so much tastier in the Netherlands, Germany, France, Luxembourg and Belgium and that general region.

face1990

RoundyMooney wrote: »

Just like Maccy D's and their 100% Irish "beef".

I won't ruin your appetites by drilling down into what said beef actually consists of.

No, do tell!

As for cod, personally I'd rather eat a less endangered fish. Plus it's cheaper. I don't know why people are so insistant on having cod.

GastroBoy

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Duff wrote: »

Do my fingers after a night out count?

Subtle ''I fingered a girl post'' :rolleyes:

Or a not so subtle fish fetish post!!

dvpower

ejmaztec wrote: »

Didn't Richard Dawkins write a book about this, The Cod Delusion?

The blind fishmaker?