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TS/Hurricane Leslie

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Leslie is a tropical storm now and should miss Bermuda well to the east. She is forecast to regain hurricane strength in a day or two. Still a bit too early to know if she will impact Newfoundland or just miss it.

    Meanwhile, Invest 91L will probably end up being our next named storm in a couple of days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,513 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    The trend on the models today is for Leslie to cross southeast Newfoundland on Tuesday as a strong extratropical storm, make a long run northeast almost to Iceland then start to dive east-southeast. The closest approach of strong winds to Ireland would be around Thursday and the range of possibilities between maximum gusts of 40 and 65 knots depending on how sharp the turn southeast is. Michael just gets absorbed or forced to trail.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,513 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Radar for southeast Newfoundland will show the passage of "Leslie" going extratropical this morning ... local time on radar (NDT) is 3.5 hours behind IST so for example 1100h NDT is 1430h IST. Thus the time stamp is 2.5 hours behind GMT/UTC or z.

    http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=WTP

    Will post some wind gust data as they happen. At time of posting, storm was about 3-4 hours from arriving in southwest corner of this radar field.

    For orientation, the complex of bays and peninsulas in the southeast is known as the Avalon Peninsula and the stubby point towards the western edge is the Burin Peninsula. At the end of that you would find French islands St Pierre et Miquelon.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Newfoundland schools are closed ( by order) today with 140kph gusts forecast 'in exposed areas'. The storm system, while large (It is 500 miles across), appears very fast moving on that radar.

    By the way Maquialdoras pyschedelic animation above is very accurate over the past 2 days for an FI ( bar the core pressure forecast)


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,513 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Central pressure has dropped to 970 mbs from ocean buoy reading, winds gusted to about 60 knots there from both east then west as the eye moved across. As of 0830z centre is approaching Burin peninsula where latest reports were heavy rain and east winds in the 35-55 knot range. Will return with some 09z (10:00 am IST) wind gusts which could be into the 60-65 knot range. Just early morning there now, that will be 0630h local time.

    Severe flooding yesterday in parts of Nova Scotia (100 mms rain in Truro) from the front that has now wrapped around Leslie. Some of that was moisture from Isaac although that storm broke into several pieces a few days ago. Some of the energy from Isaac is probably involved in today's weather system over Ireland too.

    At 09z the strongest wind gust reported was 102 km/hr at Argentia (from SE). The winds have eased slightly on the Burin with a pressure of 975 mbs reported. The centre is about an hour or two away from making landfall somewhere near Argentia. I will report more details later (probably much later, getting sleepy here) ... zzz.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Pic of Leslie and Michael at c.18z Monday. TS Nadine may even be named by the time MT gets out of bed.

    Michael is smaller and slower moving than Leslie. Neither really had an eye at that stage. Mind you Michael is an average to slightly below average sized Hurricane which shows how big Leslie is.

    nasacatchest.jpg

    Leslie is very far north to be generating NHC advisories ...which will continue until tonight I should think.
    SUMMARY OF 500 AM AST...0900 UTC...INFORMATION
    LOCATION...45.7N 56.4W
    ABOUT 170 MI...275 KM WSW OF CAPE RACE NEWFOUNDLAND
    MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...70 MPH...110 KM/H
    PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNE OR 20 DEGREES AT 40 MPH...65 KM/H
    MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...968 MB...28.59 INCHES


    WATCHES AND WARNINGS
    CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY...

    NONE.

    SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT...

    A HURRICANE WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR...
    * NEWFOUNDLAND FROM STONES COVE TO CHARLOTTETOWN


    A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR...
    * NEWFOUNDLAND FROM INDIAN HARBOUR... TO TRITON


    FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE MONITOR
    PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR NATIONAL METEOROLOGICAL SERVICE.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    Interesting to note the difference in windspeeds reported by the Hibernia (VEP717) and Sea Rose (VOXS) Platforms off the New Foundland coast. Hibernia's reporting 57 knots at its 139 m high anemometer, while nearby the Sea Rose has just 35 knots at its 42 m high anemometer.

    http://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynop?lang=en&esc=2&nav=Yes&lat=45N&lon=045W&proy=orto&base=bluem&ano=2012&mes=9&day=11&hora=09&min=0&vwi=Wi


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭dirtyghettokid




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    500 miles across and moving at 40mph now means it takes 12 hours to go past. It will, if anything, be faster moving when it crosses the Atlantic.

    12z Forecast Tracks

    Michael. ( hasn't gone away you know :) )

    al132012.png

    Leslie.

    al122012.png

    OH!

    and Nadine :D

    al142012.png


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,513 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Peak gusts of 130-140 km/hr reported from the Avalon peninsula around 11z-13z, and a distinct eye maintained at landfall on the Burin peninsula where Winterland had only 24 km/hr SSW with a pressure of 971 mbs. That eye feature became less well-defined as the storm raced north but was still evident on the northeast coast around 15z as the storm headed out to sea.

    The main interest now will be the track closer to Scotland and Ireland, with a slim chance remaining of a more direct impact for Donegal, although the consensus remains northern Scotland where winds could peak at similar levels (130 km/hr or about 70 kts) on Thursday night. You can see from those model tracks posted above that the chances are about 10-20 per cent for those winds to hit Donegal instead, would say 95-100 km/hr or 55 kts peak gusts for exposed sites and just 70-80 km/hr further south most likely.

    As for Michael, the tracks may look ominous but the consensus is for progressive weakening and as with Kirk, total absorption into the front before the remnants get close to Ireland, so whatever track verifies the effects are not likely to be noticeable embedded in the wind field around Leslie. We'll watch it carefully but at this point I don't foresee anything more than a slight wave in that front as it slides southeast across Ireland on Friday.

    TD 14 now born will eventually become Nadine but seems headed for the western Atlantic on a NNW track towards Greenland.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    So if we are going to have a fairly stormy night on thursday, how come met eireann haven't mentioned it in their forecasts?
    They mentioned severe gusts on the forecast yesterday for thursday but nothing on it today. I thought they would of at least mentioned it in their forecast this evening.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    even UKMO have not issued a warning for Scotland as of right now. Met E have less reason again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    ME gale warning issued at 1600 but only from Loop Head to Rossan Point so nothing serious.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,513 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Seems that Nadine could end up closer to Ireland in the long run, depends on how long it can maintain itself through extratropical transition west to north of the Azores.

    Just wanted to clarify that there is no suggestion of a forecast disagreement on wind speeds expected Thursday evening to Friday morning, our current forecast reads maximum gusts in Donegal of 50 knots and this is not considered by us (or by you, I would imagine) as a wind storm as such. I do expect stronger gusts up to 70 knots in parts of Scotland during Thursday night.

    Have seen some news reports of blizzard conditions in northern Iceland associated with extratropical Leslie passing by to south, rescues of sheep and other livestock from deep snow being undertaken and said to be worst early autumn storm in 17 years in that region.

    Will be keeping a close watch on developments overnight as the current models have an area of 60 knot wind potential not that far to the north of Malin Head around 00z Friday and recalling last January's last-minute shift of wind fields. But at the moment it is a watch situation and not an alert or warning.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Oh God the dreaded S word...and it is only early September. :(

    Off hand MT can you remember such a large and a bare 1 day into post tropical blob of moisture running into a Polar system so soon ...anywhere????


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,513 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Not over Iceland or that sector, there was a 19th century hurricane late in the season that turned into a snowstorm in parts of the inland northeast, and Hazel (1954) turned up in Baffin Island in its extratropical stages, which led to heavy snowfalls in the central arctic islands.

    Leslie had quite an unusual evolution with so many days of nearly stationary or slow northwest drift followed by a rush to the north and northeast. It was also a very large storm that never totally developed its potential until perhaps the extratropical stage.

    I won't totally trust Leslie until she is off the charts completely.

    But also don't be too surprised if the temperature soars beyond 20 C later "today" as the storm has dragged a lot of subtropical air along for the ride, after it blew through St John's the temperature peaked at about 22 C and that was a lot closer to the storm's inner core than you'll be at 3 pm. Notice the thickness ridge coming along with the system peaks at about 567 dm by then. If the low cloud breaks up it could easily reach 23 C.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    If the low cloud breaks up it could easily reach 23 C.

    23c and snow or just 23c? :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 845 ✭✭✭tylercollins


    MALIN HEAD(A) SW 32 Gust 48 CLOUDY 15 84 0.0 1006

    Pretty windy here where I am, no ideas on speed as weather station is packed away for house move!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Harps


    Likewise very windy here on the Donegal coast, more so than I expected. A gust of 40kts just recorded at my nearest station. Only a breeze by winter standards but its probably the windiest day in 5 or 6 months so definitely noticeable


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,513 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Malin Head reported gust to 50 knots at 1800h and the 2200h report from Lerwick (Shetlands) is WSW 47 mph gusting 69 mph. Not sure if that will be the peak, will edit in anything I see that is higher. Moderately windy by any standard. The storm was a lot stronger in Newfoundland, St John's reported something like 55 mph gusting to 80 mph at peak.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 845 ✭✭✭tylercollins


    Wasn't anything out of the ordinary after 9pm last night. Expected much more!


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,513 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    I think the system "pressure jumped" forward overnight and the focus for strongest winds rapidly moved east with that development.


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