Big Rolling Stone Article on Mitt:Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney....

MrGeneric

Manic Moran wrote: »

4) Article seems to indicate that he's good at what he sets out to do. I'll rate that as a plus.

Two and a half years in France, and they're still drinking wine. I'd rate that as a failure.

If one can perform a character assassination by reporting facts, what exactly does that say about the subject?

Amerika

Oregano_State wrote: »

He has failed, but the how is important. As far as I can make out, and correct me if I'm wrong, but the main reason he has had trouble working with the Republicans in Congress is that they simply refuse to work with him. They won't pass his legislation, or filibuster to delay things going though. They see it as their number 1 aim to get him out of office by any means, and not to make decisions that benefit America as a nation.

Correction provided. The GOP controlled only one half of Congress for only one half of Obama's term. Democrats have run the Senate for his entire term, and also controlled the House of Representatives for half that term. So during Obama's time in office Democrats had 75% of the Congressional control.

President Obama got through his stimulus package, Obamacare, Dodd-Frank banking regulation, and everything else on his priority list (and apparently that didn’t include taxing the rich, which he easily could have done in the first two years of his term). Don’t blame Obama's failures as President on Republicans. Obama has no one to blame but himself and his party.

In 2010, the American people put the GOP in control of The House of Representatives and came close to also getting the Senate. It’s the American people that thought the Democrats and their priorities needed to be ousted.

Be like Nutella

eh for gods sake get with the program.. this is supposed to be about Romney-Bashing :rolleyes:

Mjollnir

Amerika wrote: »

Correction provided. The GOP controlled only one half of Congress for only one half of Obama's term. Democrats have run the Senate for his entire term, and also controlled the House of Representatives for half that term. So during Obama's time in office Democrats had 75% of the Congressional control.

President Obama got through his stimulus package, Obamacare, Dodd-Frank banking regulation, and everything else on his priority list (and apparently that didn’t include taxing the rich, which he easily could have done in the first two years of his term). Don’t blame Obama's failures as President on Republicans. Obama has no one to blame but himself and his party.

In 2010, the American people put the GOP in control of The House of Representatives and came close to also getting the Senate. It’s the American people that thought the Democrats and their priorities needed to be ousted.

Quite incorrect about the Senate, as for a filibuster-proof 60 seat majority in the Senate. They had it for 4 months, not two years. Here, let me help you with some facts.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4e5_1346191012

Apparently everyone forgot the President needed 60 votes in the Senate to pass legislation. I heard a Latino news reporter say they felt if the President could pass healthcare, he could have passed immigration reform. Newsflash!! The healthcare bill was passed using "reconciliation", because there were not 60 Democrats in the Senate.

Immigration, Gay Rights could not be passed with the same process because it is reserved for budgetary matters. You'd think a reporter would know this stuff. The Stimulus was hijacked by the Republicans and job-creating measures were traded for tax cuts because...there were not 60 Democratic votes to pass it.

Apparently no one remembers that Scott Brown was sworn into office in February of 2010. At that time, the President had only been in office for ONE year. Most folks remember that the election of Scott Brown reduced the number of Democratic senators to 59. So the President could not have possibly had Congressional control for two years.

Here's the timeline:

When the election dust settled, Democrats had won 59 seats; the Republicans 41.

January 20, 2009 - After suffering a seizure during Barack Obama's inaugural luncheon, Senator Kennedy’s health forced him to retreat to Massachusetts. Also Senator Al Franken of Minnesota had not been seated because the previous Senator, Norm Coleman challenged the election results.

So at the beginning of his Presidency, Democrats had 57 elected senators…55 Democrats and 2 Independents.

Why do you think he had to compromise with Republicans on the Stimulus bill? He didn’t have enough Democrats to pass the bill! Why don't you people who moan such disappointment know this?

April 28, 2009 news outlets issued the following report:

Republican Sen. Arlen Specter has switched parties, which would give Democrats a filibuster-proof 60 seats. You do remember the filibuster? The Republicans employed it more than in any time in history for the express purpose of stalling legislation.

Despite the fact that the media hailed the party switch of Arlen Specter and claimed it gave Democrats a filibuster-proof Senate, the Minnesota seat still remained vacant. The Senate had 56 sitting Democratic members and 2 Independents. Technically, the Senate was two members short, but I'm counting Senator Kennedy even though he was at home ill because he did cast a vote in June. 59

May 15, 2009 Senator Robert Byrd was admitted to the hospital reducing the number of sitting Senators to 55 Democratic members and 2 Independents. 57

July 7, 2009 Al Franken (D) was sworn in after the election dispute over the Minnesota seat was decided in his favor. Senator Kennedy continued to recuperate at his home in Massachusetts and was unable to cast any more votes; Senator Byrd was still in the hospital. The Senate had 56 sitting Democratic members and 2 Independents. 58

July 21, 2009 Senator Byrd returned to the Senate making the count 59 seats. No Senator Kennedy.

Senator Kennedy died August 25, 2009.

The Kennedy seat was vacant from August 25 - September 24 when Paul G. Kirk was appointed to occupy his seat until the completion of a special election. The swearing-in of Kirk gave the Democrats a 60-seat majority.

Democrats had a 60 seat majority from September 24, 2009 thru February 4, 2010. 4 months; not 2 years!!

This does not account for the number of days Congress was not even in session during that time. If one subtracts the number of days Congress was out, the time that President Obama had a Democratic majority in Congress is further reduced by more than 30 days, or another full month.

Of a possible 94 legislative days during that period, the Senate was only in session for 67 days, while the House only labored for 54.

- stop-

Amerika

Be like Nutella wrote: »

eh for gods sake get with the program.. this is supposed to be about Romney-Bashing :rolleyes:

Romney bashing… Republican bashing… It’s all the same and has become the new national pass time of the media majority. Luckily the American people see through all the lies and scare tactics, and in 2010 started making changes to Democratic control which has led us down the path of decline… and it’s looking like the people are again ignoring the hysterical and biased media, and there is a very good chance we can see the Senate go to GOP control in 2012. And if I were a betting man, I would put money on Romney taking a win in the race for POTUS.

Overheal

Luckily the American people see through all the lies and scare tactics

You'd swear you had already forgotten about the Terror Alert...

Not that conservatives haven't been playing the victim card for years, mind you. "The media is trying to silence me!" Eh, no. All comparisons to Nazi Germany belong somewhere else. "Why isn't the media reporting this?" Usually the people asking this are the media, and instead of reporting [this] they report that other people aren't.

Media pundits have a horrible tendency to forget what their principles are, based upon whom they're talking about. Hillary Clinton? Oh the media isn't asking her the hard questions. Sarah Palin? How dare they ask her what she reads! That is such a gotcha question! They set her up! Obama? Where is the birth certificate! Romney? Leave his taxes alone! Democrat or Republican filibuster? That's so [evil]/[justified].

Mr.Micro

Amerika wrote: »

Luckily the American people see through all the lies and scare tactics.

Are you serious? Under the last Republican President it was non stop scare tactics and disinformation. That's the whole idea of the phoney war on terror and the setting up of Homeland security, to continue the scare tactics. The Americans see though very little beyond their own state and care little what happens in the rest of the world so long a they are not affected.