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Fianna Gwael.

  • 03-09-2012 12:46am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭


    What is it with RTE newsreaders making up their own pronunciations of words? Where the f uck did the word gwael come from? When they're talking about football do they call it gwaelic football, no off course they f uck ing don't! No matter what dialect or accent they may be using the word Gael (gale) will never have a w in it. Tossers.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    Finn-ants.

    Die.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    irish pronunciation understanding fail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    are them the wans working for aaaar-t-e?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Fine (as in Shine) Gale (as in Sale) round these parts...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭notnumber


    arse drink feck.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    efb wrote: »
    Fine (as in Shine) Gale (as in Sale) round these parts...
    Fucking (as in fucking) Arseholes (as in arseholes) round these parts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    Tis a fine gael, but tis no pool English


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    Ah you'd miss Ann Doyle and her isssues. Typing that has made me rather emotional, I'll get some tisssues :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    Bethan Kilfoyle.

    You come from the race that invented the language. FFS learn how to speak it properly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    KKkitty wrote: »
    Ah you'd miss Ann Doyle and her isssues. Typing that has made me rather emotional, I'll get some tisssues :D

    And the way she used to pronounce 'sexual' was weird too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    sexsual


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    KKkitty wrote: »
    Ah you'd miss Ann Doyle and her isssues. Typing that has made me rather emotional, I'll get some tisssues :D

    There there KKKitty, there there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    Mickey H wrote: »
    KKkitty wrote: »
    Ah you'd miss Ann Doyle and her isssues. Typing that has made me rather emotional, I'll get some tisssues :D

    There there KKKitty, there there.
    Thanks, I'm ok now :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Same reason they talk about the gord e


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Same reason they talk about the gord e

    Reason?? There isn't sense nor reason to it :D;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭AskMyChocolate


    KKkitty wrote: »
    Ah you'd miss Ann Doyle and her isssues. Typing that has made me rather emotional, I'll get some tisssues :D
    And the way she used to pronounce 'sexual' was weird too.

    Lol. First thing that came to my mind when reading this thread, was the way Simon Bates used to pronounce "secksual" in the warnings at the start to a video!

    Feckin' creepy.

    Time for one of Daddy's "special baths".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    KKkitty wrote: »
    Thanks, I'm ok now :)

    Good. :)
    Lol. First thing that came to my mind when reading this thread, was the way Simon Bates used to pronounce "secksual" in the warnings at the start to a video!

    Feckin' creepy.

    Time for one of Daddy's "special baths".

    :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,664 ✭✭✭policarp


    Fine Troika. . .
    Noonan, Reilly, Hogan and Kenny. . .

    Not enough room on the Trike.
    They'll have to get a quad. . .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,664 ✭✭✭policarp


    CJC999 wrote: »
    the word Gael (gale) will never have a w in it. Tossers.

    Anagram for Feena Gayle. . .


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭trollin trollin trollin


    Am i the only one to notice that Sharon ni Bheolain speaks in a low sex voice while reading the news now that she didn't have a few years ago.I not complaining though ;)

    Campare these videos to see what i mean.There are better examples of it out there though but these are all i found under short notice.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Dooon Layorah.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Seanchai


    IM0 wrote: »
    irish pronunciation understanding fail

    This, OP, this. Back to school with you.

    Gaelic = English word, therefore English pronunciation. Fine & Gael = Irish words, therefore Irish pronunciations. It really shouldn't be *that* difficult to understand. Most educated Irish people get it - for instance, they pronounce Deirdre with the same 'ah' ending that is in Fine, Gráinne, Aoife, Portlaoise. And so on. It's correctly more like Fina Gwael, or using the phonetic alphabet ˈfʲɪnʲə ˈɡeːl̪ˠ.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Seanchai


    B0jangles wrote: »
    Dooon Layorah.

    Which is of course more accurate than Done Leery. See above rule for pronouncing 'e' ending words in Irish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Seanchai wrote: »
    Which is of course more accurate than Done Leery. See above rule for pronouncing 'e' ending words in Irish.

    But virtually no-one who live there, works there or regularly visits the place calls it Doon Layorah - they call it Dun Leary. That is its name in normal usage.

    It'd be like them insisting on calling Dublin Baile Atha Cliath or maybe Dubh Linn. Pointless pedantry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    B0jangles wrote: »
    Dooon Layorah.

    Kingstown


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    I hate that gwael thing. No matter who tells me gwaeltacht is correct, I will never pronounce it with a w.

    Do you think new presenters have to go on a pronunciation course when they join Rte?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    what I want to know is why has miriam o callaghan changed her name.

    coupla years ago it was just plain old "Miriam"

    now she's calling herself "MARY UM"

    :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Do you think new presenters have to go on a pronunciation course when they join Rte?

    Hell no. Sure I bet they don't even need a junior cert...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Matt_Trakker


    aye, RTE presenters are taught to say Irish words according to the pronunciation of the Irish letters hence why it is 'arrrr' t. e and not r.t.e because the acronym is for 3 Irish words not English ones.
    Simple as that, they're saying it the proper way :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    B0jangles wrote: »
    Dooon Layorah.

    I have heard it pronounced like this from time to time (by just one or two) RTE presenters, but it sounds wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    the acronym is for 3 Irish words not English ones.

    radio isn't an Irish word.

    I know Raidió is, but the R is still pronounced the same isn't it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    aye, RTE presenters are taught to say Irish words according to the pronunciation of the Irish letters hence why it is 'arrrr' t. e and not r.t.e because the acronym is for 3 Irish words not English ones.
    Simple as that, they're saying it the proper way :p

    Some RTE newsreaders say it one way, and some the other, take Paul Reynolds for example who is a really good exponent of the exaggerated Orr.Tee.E sound.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,605 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    CJC999 wrote: »
    What is it with RTE newsreaders making up their own pronunciations of words? Where the f uck did the word gwael come from? When they're talking about football do they call it gwaelic football, no off course they f uck ing don't! No matter what dialect or accent they may be using the word Gael (gale) will never have a w in it. Tossers.

    They also call PortLaoise "PORT-LEESHA". :mad::mad::mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Seanchai


    They also call PortLaoise "PORT-LEESHA". :mad::mad::mad:

    I'd be more embarrassed at the people who call it PortLeesh. Serious lack of education going on there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    are them the wans working for aaaar-t-e?

    Have you seen the Dara O'Brien skit where he's pointing out that nobody in the UK understands him when he says the letter "orr"?

    That's because it's pronounced "arr". Did you never watch Sesame St., or any programmes from outside Ireland????
    aye, RTE presenters are taught to say Irish words according to the pronunciation of the Irish letters hence why it is 'arrrr' t. e and not r.t.e because the acronym is for 3 Irish words not English ones.
    Simple as that, they're saying it the proper way


    In English the letter is pronounced "arr".


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    They also call PortLaoise "PORT-LEESHA". :mad::mad::mad:
    That's close to the correct pronunciation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    summerskin wrote: »
    That's because it's pronounced "arr". Did you never watch Sesame St., or any programmes from outside Ireland????

    Or pirate of the caribbean?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Seanchai


    LordSutch wrote: »
    I have heard it pronounced like this from time to time (by just one or two) RTE presenters, but it sounds wrong.

    Of course it does to you, Lord Sutch. It's closer to the correct pronunciation of that Irish name in Irish. Why pronounce something correctly when you can pronounce it incorrectly - especially when it's an Irish word?

    Lord Sutch engages in yet another "something English is better than something Irish" shocker on Boards.ie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann


    They also call PortLaoise "PORT-LEESHA". :mad::mad::mad:
    Because that's the correct pronunciation.

    I'm from Laois, I know that locals commonly call it "port leesh". But that doesnt change the fact that the name is correctly pronounced as gaeilge as "port leesh a"

    But thats not how its usually referred to by Laois people. No, if RTE were to pander to your ilk we'd need "Tommy Gorman reporting from the town, where violence has erupted in "port laaysh" jail"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭ozt9vdujny3srf


    CJC999 wrote: »
    What is it with RTE newsreaders making up their own pronunciations of words? Where the f uck did the word gwael come from? When they're talking about football do they call it gwaelic football, no off course they f uck ing don't! No matter what dialect or accent they may be using the word Gael (gale) will never have a w in it. Tossers.

    Seeing as we're been pedantic, it's fine, not fianna.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann


    Seeing as we're been pedantic, it's fine, not fianna.
    Not pedantic enough!

    I'm sure the OP knows that it is spelled "fine" but thinks that it is pronounced "fianna".
    "Fine" is an irish word, not pronounced like the english word of the same spelling (rhymes with shine) nor like the word Fianna ("feen-na", but it is close. Its pronounced "f-win-a"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭Stabshauptmann


    Actually can I just solve the thread?

    OP: I can't pronounce Irish
    Rabble: And its stupid language anyway, we should pronounce things the english way
    Rabble: No, we should just agree that the correct way is the way people speak, and around my way its XYZ, so thats the right way
    Rabble: Rabble rabble rabble
    Non-Idiot: But, look here, this accredited text books clearly says...
    Rabble: BURN THE WITCH!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Am i the only one to notice that Sharon ni Bheolain speaks in a low sex voice while reading the news now that she didn't have a few years ago.I not complaining though ;)

    Campare these videos to see what i mean.There are better examples of it out there though but these are all i found under short notice.

    Finally, after about two years somebody else has commented on this!

    I think I started a thread about her fake husky voice many moons ago, but nobody else could hear it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Seanchai wrote: »
    Of course it does to you, Lord Sutch. It's closer to the correct pronunciation of that Irish name in Irish. Why pronounce something correctly when you can pronounce it incorrectly - especially when it's an Irish word?

    Lord Sutch engages in yet another "something English is better than something Irish" shocker on Boards.ie.

    The thing is Seanchai, people are getting sick and tired of your rabid and unhealthy obsession with all things English/British even when they are not part of the narrative. Your latest portrayl being that because I say 'arr' instead of 'Orr' then I must be English, you are like a broken record Seanchai. Take the latest BAN handed out to you only yesterday for this kind of ranting > http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80556051&postcount=43.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭hoodwinked


    aye, RTE presenters are taught to say Irish words according to the pronunciation of the Irish letters hence why it is 'arrrr' t. e and not r.t.e because the acronym is for 3 Irish words not English ones.
    Simple as that, they're saying it the proper way :p

    no they aren't they call it R-T-E

    e as in eee

    but if you look that e has a fada over it and should be pronounced like the english letter 'a'

    so if it was pronounced right it would sound like: R-T-A :pac:


    also

    its Fine (sounds like Feena or sheena with a f instead of the sh) gael, and Fianna (fi-an-na) fáil.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Seanchai


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Your latest portreyal....[blah, blah, blah]

    :rolleyes: None of this irrelevant, turgid post detracts from the fact that you are wrong about the indisputably (by educated people) correct pronunciation of Fine Gael, and other Irish words. At least try and stay on topic. Pronouncing Irish words correctly evidently does not sit well with your prejudices. In fairness to you, though, you don't seem to have much of an affinity with spelling or pronouncing English words correctly either, despite all your lauding of all things British here. It's that obscurantist mentality of rejecting knowledge generally and embracing ignorance. Before looking down on all things Irish, and giving lectures on correct pronunciations in that language, perhaps you could at least master the language you laud so much. Or is it easier for you to hate others than to put the work into being good at something like English/defining yourself positively?

    Helpful hints:

    1) Ditch your IE browser and start using Chrome or Firefox. That way you will have a spellchecker built into each post you make here. You will look more thoughtful and erudite than you are.

    2) Learn how to link properly here. It's simple, and shows you at least put some work, yes work, into your ranting benighted posts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Seanchai wrote: »
    Pronouncing Irish words correctly evidently does not sit well with your prejudices. In fairness to you, though, you don't seem to have much of an affinity with spelling or pronouncing English words correctly either, despite all your lauding of all things British here. It's that obscurantist mentality of rejecting knowledge generally and embracing ignorance. Before looking down on all things Irish, and giving lectures on correct pronunciations in that language, perhaps you could at least master the language you laud so much. Or is it easier for you to hate others than to put the work into being good at something like English/defining yourself positively?

    That's it Seanchai, you are a lost cause, sinking deeper and deeper into your obsessive British/English/ Anti Irish mire . . . ad Nauseam.
    Remember that it was only yesterday that you were handed out a ban for this unhealthy obsession.

    > http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80556051&postcount=43.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,413 ✭✭✭Stab*City


    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/samantha-libreri/27/402/221

    Its library! FFS RTE are trying to start their own version of the english language.. Man that paul reynolds is very bad. I know people in Kerry who actually thought he was English.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭emeraldstar


    Seeing as we're been pedantic, it's fine, not fianna.
    Seeing as you're being pedantic, can I be pedantic?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,508 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    summerskin wrote: »
    Have you seen the Dara O'Brien skit where he's pointing out that nobody in the UK understands him when he says the letter "orr"?

    That's because it's pronounced "arr". Did you never watch Sesame St., or any programmes from outside Ireland????




    In English the letter is pronounced "arr".

    With two silent Rs?


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