History, Schmistory, bah, humbug!

Galwayguy35

southsiderosie wrote: »

Are you serious?

Tara isn't that special? Huh? Do you think the Basques would allow a developer to run a bicycle path, much less a road past the Tree of Guernica?

Lissadell House isn't that special? The home of Constance Markiewicz and Yeats' retreat? Do you think that the British would ever allow a private owner to buy Shakespeare's birthplace and then shut it off to the public?

You don't think it matters that the Dublin City Council dug up one of the original Viking sites and then still went on and plunked its office building down on top of it? Can you imagine the Italians digging up Pompeii, and then plunking a shopping mall on top of it?

Why do Irish officials care so little about the country's cultural patrimony?

Hold on a second, you started a thread about the Blackrock Baths and that is what I commented on, I never mentioned the other examples at all.

We have lots of nicely preserved historic sites in the Connaught area, take a drive down sometime and have a look around.

southsiderosie

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Hold on a second, you started a thread about the Blackrock Baths and that is what I commented on, I never mentioned the other examples at all.

We have lots of nicely preserved historic sites in the Connaught area, take a drive down sometime and have a look around.

The main point of the thread isn't the Baths per se, it's the fact that politicians do not seem to care about maintaining historical sites (and yes some people would see the Blackrock Baths as a historical site that was simply left to rot until it couldn't be salvaged). Hence why I mentioned multiple sites other than the BB in the OP.

oppenheimer1

southsiderosie wrote: »

Are you serious?

Tara isn't that special? Huh? Do you think the Basques would allow a developer to run a bicycle path, much less a road past the Tree of Guernica?

Lissadell House isn't that special? The home of Constance Markiewicz and Yeats' retreat? Do you think that the British would ever allow a private owner to buy Shakespeare's birthplace and then shut it off to the public?

You don't think it matters that the Dublin City Council dug up one of the original Viking sites and then still went on and plunked its office building down on top of it? Can you imagine the Italians digging up Pompeii, and then plunking a shopping mall on top of it?

Why do Irish officials care so little about the country's cultural patrimony?

You are misinformed in relation to Tara, but Wood Quay was a mistake.

You do have to remember that the country has to work for the people that live in it now, not those that lived thousands of years ago.

As for the Baths, concrete doesn't weather well in a chloride environment, there would have been no way to save these without a demolition and rebuild. There is nothing of historical or architectural significance to save and its an eyesore. Time to let it go.

Goro

the groutch wrote: »

don't think it would have been a good idea to restore them.
it would just be another outlet for the unsavoury type who descend on Sandycove or Bray via the DART whenever the weather is anyway decent.

There are unsavory types FROM these areas too you know.

fly_agaric

southsiderosie wrote: »

Why don't Irish politicians care about preserving historical sites?

No money in it for their pals.

The costs in preserving are upfront and obvious in a govt. department or council's bottom line, the benefits are more diffuse.

Also IMO "historical sites" in dirty nasty cities are not part of the "Real Ireland" in opinion of many of our rural politicians and those that vote for them so can (usually) be safely left to rot!

expectationlost

see this proposal for the dun laoighaire baths, impressive but note no actually in the sea sea baths, ,says athey were hard to keep up and may not have been that sucessful in design in the first place

http://www.dlrcoco.ie/media/media,5692,en.pdf