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buying house in Moyglare hall, Maynooth, Kildare

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    #32
    Rainbow bright
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Rainbow bright


    dib wrote: »
    My wife and myself are in the process of buying a terraced house in Moyglare. We've had a survey completed, which was very thorough, and there were a few small issues that needed to be fixed but nothing worrying.

    We've asked our solicitor to advise the vendor that we won't be closing the sale until they provide us with a cert that the property is pyrite free.

    In my opinion, if a house is being sold in an area that has had pyrite problems it should be the vendor's responsibility to prove the property is free of pyrite.

    Of course I am aware that many vendors won't see it this way but if you don't ask, you won't get. I'm sure some vendors will be happy to have a test done if it will enable them to sell in a more timely fashion.

    Hi Dib

    Good luck getting a cert to prove the property is pyrite free I have gone sale agreed on one of the 5beds long before Christmas and have had an uphill battle trying to get this information. All I have received is a letter from the architect saying that there is no evidence of pyrite at present. When I requested the next time for confirmation I got told in November (after a month of chasing) I would get confirmation from the quarry to confirm the materials used were ok. We are now 5months since going sale agreed and still no further on.

    Would you keep me posted on your progress? I am extremely feed with with the process at this point.

    Thanks


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    #33
    dib
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    Will do mate. I suspect it'll be a tough one but I'm not for budging on it.


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    #34
    Rainbow bright
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    dib wrote: »
    Will do mate. I suspect it'll be a tough one but I'm not for budging on it.

    Thanks Dib as unfortunate as it is it's nice to know someone else is pushing over the same issue. What builder are you buying from?

    I have been in contact with the local authorities and the local TD replied confirming what the builder had advised me, that 10 properties where affected in the first phase and the effected houses were fixed and there have been no issues since.


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    #35
    dib
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    Hi Rainbow Bright.

    We're buying from Mycete Homes. It's important to stress that the house is 6 years old. It's never had anyone living in it.

    We had a full structural survey done and they found no evidence of swelling or indications of pyrite damage so I'd say it's safe to say that the house is fine, but I'd still like a cert or statement to say that the house is pyrite free.

    Hopefully everything will be sorted sooner rather than later.

    D


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    #36
    Rainbow bright
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Rainbow bright


    Hi Dib,

    Thanks we are buying off North City Builders. When I initially found out about the pyrite issue I spoke to Mycete and then North city and they advised that they would provide a letter which they did very quickly and told me the people in the house next to the one we are going for requested one also. We have been advised that the houses built by our builder have not been affected.

    However, the way the letter is worded it says that there is no evidence of pyrite as of yet and the materials used came from a quarry that was not associated with pyrite. That is why we are pushing for confirmation from the quarry as I did ask could we carry out the test and got told there was no need as the house was ok. If that is the case than why not allow the test be carried out.

    We do know people in the estate and one person in the part where there was an issue and all people have told us the houses are fine.
    I have also been in contact with the local council, local TD and made contact with pyrite action groups but have gotten nothing concrete as of yet to confirm the house is free.

    Like you I would like a cert for peace of mind, and in the future if we went to sell the property we may be requested to carry out the test in order to sell.

    I hope this is of some help to you, it gets sorted very quickly for you.


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    #37
    donspeekinglesh
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    Rainbow bright wrote: »
    I have been in contact with the local authorities and the local TD replied confirming what the builder had advised me, that 10 properties where affected in the first phase and the effected houses were fixed and there have been no issues since.

    As a resident this tallies with what I've seen.


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    #38
    TonyStark
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    donspeekinglesh wrote: »
    As a resident this tallies with what I've seen.


    As a resident also I can confirm that this is the case.


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    #39
    Rainbow bright
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    Thanks for the feedback Tonystark and donspeekinglesh


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    #40
    Rainbow bright
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Rainbow bright


    Hi dib,

    Just wondering if you have had any luck with getting the pyrite test for the house?
    We are still at a stand still. We are waiting for confirmation from the quarry for the past two months now.
    What phase are you buying in?

    R


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    #41
    dib
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    Hey! We're stalled on another issue at the moment but the pyrite issue is still on the table. I'm keeping a regular eye on this thread so I'll post back as soon as something happens. It's so frustrating though. We just want to move into our new home and start making the place our own! I'm sure you feel the same!


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    #42
    sawdoubters
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    https://www.propertypriceregister.ie/website/npsra/pprweb.nsf/page/ppr-home-en


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    #43
    dib
    Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭dib


    @swdoubters Maybe an explanation as to the relevence of that link would help. I think most people in the process of buying a house are aware of the existence of the Property Price Register. Is there something else you're getting at?


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    #44
    Rainbow bright
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Rainbow bright


    dib wrote: »
    Hey! We're stalled on another issue at the moment but the pyrite issue is still on the table. I'm keeping a regular eye on this thread so I'll post back as soon as something happens. It's so frustrating though. We just want to move into our new home and start making the place our own! I'm sure you feel the same!

    Hi Dib,

    We got some news today but not what we were promised. We got a letter saying if the property shows signs on pyrite in the next five yrs the builder will rectify it.
    Needless to say after this complete u turn we are pushing for the test.

    R


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    #45
    Rainbow bright
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Rainbow bright


    Hi Dib

    I hope your house is going well. We have pulled out of buying in the estate after getting our engineers report. The builder got a bit nasty our solicitor asked what he had to hide considering we were willing to pay to test the house.

    R


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    #46
    Anjalinasp
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    Hey Rainbow Bright..

    Do you mean the builder didnt allow the structural survey of the property? Which builder you were buying from - North City or Mycete?

    The builder is acting fishy.. why would a good builder have an objection for any of the inspections by potential buyers??:confused:


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    #47
    mildaS
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    Rainbow bright wrote: »
    Hi Dib

    I hope your house is going well. We have pulled out of buying in the estate after getting our engineers report. The builder got a bit nasty our solicitor asked what he had to hide considering we were willing to pay to test the house.

    R

    Hi, what builder did you use? we are with North city builders. Trying to contact him for last couple of day with no answer. Getting a bit worried now as he did answer before...


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    #48
    Rainbow bright
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Rainbow bright


    mildaS wrote: »
    Hi, what builder did you use? we are with North city builders. Trying to contact him for last couple of day with no answer. Getting a bit worried now as he did answer before...

    We were with north city builders.


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    #49
    Rainbow bright
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Rainbow bright


    mildaS wrote: »
    Hi, what builder did you use? we are with North city builders. Trying to contact him for last couple of day with no answer. Getting a bit worried now as he did answer before...

    We were with north city builders. when we asked to test the property due to the pyrite issue that he confirmed he told us that any engineer worth his salt would say that the house was fine, our engineer gave the house an amber warning for pyrite the only way that would change is if the house was tested and the builder would not allow testing, We sent in engineers that specialise in pyrite and they gave it amber that's why we pulled out. I would recommend a pyrite visual inspection at least before signing anything.


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    #50
    mildaS
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    Rainbow bright wrote: »
    We were with north city builders. when we asked to test the property due to the pyrite issue that he confirmed he told us that any engineer worth his salt would say that the house was fine, our engineer gave the house an amber warning for pyrite the only way that would change is if the house was tested and the builder would not allow testing, We sent in engineers that specialise in pyrite and they gave it amber that's why we pulled out. I would recommend a pyrite visual inspection at least before signing anything.

    Wow, we signed it all last week. haven't had the test done. But think its def worth doing it now. So annoying with Mick for not answering the phone. Hope this wont turn out to be our worst nightmare!


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    #51
    mildaS
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    Is there anybody in the middle of getting their house built with North city builders?


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    #52
    Rainbow bright
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    mildaS wrote: »
    Wow, we signed it all last week. haven't had the test done. But think its def worth doing it now. So annoying with Mick for not answering the phone. Hope this wont turn out to be our worst nightmare!

    Well when you are handing over hundreds of thousands of euro you want to make sure you are getting a quality product. At the end of the day you don't buy a car without a test drive. The fact you have more rights if you buy something small than you do with a house I didn't think it was worth the risk even less so after the last time I spoke with Mick. God love the poor ppl who buy the one we were getting and I bet the will pay a good €50,000 more than we were. I wonder will he give them the 5yr guarantee too???


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    #53
    TonyStark
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    Rainbow bright wrote: »
    Well when you are handing over hundreds of thousands of euro you want to make sure you are getting a quality product. At the end of the day you don't buy a car without a test drive. The fact you have more rights if you buy something small than you do with a house I didn't think it was worth the risk even less so after the last time I spoke with Mick. God love the poor ppl who buy the one we were getting and I bet the will pay a good €50,000 more than we were. I wonder will he give them the 5yr guarantee too???

    Well all the houses that had pyrite problem were repaired. They seem to be still standing and the people living in them.

    How much does it cost to repair the pyrite problem anyway...? I would have thought a house that was built for that length of time and exhibited minor settle cracks would have been a pretty sound buy.

    Besides having lived here for the guts of 3 years and rented the previous 2 the prices are on the rise again and in a serious way with the planned new school up the road and a new road to link up with the village.


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    #54
    mildaS
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭mildaS


    Rainbow bright wrote: »
    Well when you are handing over hundreds of thousands of euro you want to make sure you are getting a quality product. At the end of the day you don't buy a car without a test drive. The fact you have more rights if you buy something small than you do with a house I didn't think it was worth the risk even less so after the last time I spoke with Mick. God love the poor ppl who buy the one we were getting and I bet the will pay a good €50,000 more than we were. I wonder will he give them the 5yr guarantee too???


    Which no house were you going to buy? We bought one on the grove. For all I know its 10year garantee.


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    #55
    dib
    Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭dib


    Should hopefully be closing the sale today. We got our Pyrite check and the all clear a few weeks ago so we're happy enough. I was pretty happy anyway as the house was built in 2006 and hasn't moved halfway down the road in that time. Looking forward to moving into our new home.


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    #56
    TonyStark
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    dib wrote: »
    Should hopefully be closing the sale today. We got our Pyrite check and the all clear a few weeks ago so we're happy enough. I was pretty happy anyway as the house was built in 2006 and hasn't moved halfway down the road in that time. Looking forward to moving into our new home.

    Congrats! Welcome to Moyglare Hall!


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    #57
    dib
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    Cheers!


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    #58
    IrishAlice
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    Hi all,

    Myself and my OH put down a holding deposit two weeks ago on a house in moyglare hall.

    We got a call from the bank this morning saying that we need a letter of guarantee from the builder that the house is pyrite free before approving our mortgage. Has anyone else had the same happen?

    We were told by the builder that we'll get a green cert with the house to say its pyrite free. Would anyone know if this cert is legally binding?


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    #59
    TonyStark
    Registered Users Posts: 851 ✭✭✭TonyStark


    IrishAlice wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Myself and my OH put down a holding deposit two weeks ago on a house in moyglare hall.

    We got a call from the bank this morning saying that we need a letter of guarantee from the builder that the house is pyrite free before approving our mortgage. Has anyone else had the same happen?

    We were told by the builder that we'll get a green cert with the house to say its pyrite free. Would anyone know if this cert is legally binding?

    I guess you would have to ask your solicitor on this one to know if there is any legal standing requried on it.

    Personally I don't really see what it has to do with a Mortgage. I remember getting a request from them about how we would furnish the house! We put it down to them wanting to find a get out for the mortgage.

    I am sure the builder would have no problem furnishing you with a letter in fairness to say the same as the cert.


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    #60
    IrishAlice
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    TonyStark wrote: »
    I guess you would have to ask your solicitor on this one to know if there is any legal standing requried on it.

    Personally I don't really see what it has to do with a Mortgage. I remember getting a request from them about how we would furnish the house! We put it down to them wanting to find a get out for the mortgage.

    I am sure the builder would have no problem furnishing you with a letter in fairness to say the same as the cert.

    Thanks for the info. We contacted our solicitor yesterday to ask them to get in touch with the builders solicitor for the letter and all they said is it's a very odd request.

    My OH is going to call them back this morning and ask them to look into whether or not this is going to be legally binding.

    We were so excited about the prospect of buying our first house and now we're worrying about potential problems. Definitely glad the bank are erring on the side of caution though so hopefully it will all work out!


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    #61
    TonyStark
    Registered Users Posts: 851 ✭✭✭TonyStark


    IrishAlice wrote: »
    Thanks for the info. We contacted our solicitor yesterday to ask them to get in touch with the builders solicitor for the letter and all they said is it's a very odd request.

    My OH is going to call them back this morning and ask them to look into whether or not this is going to be legally binding.

    We were so excited about the prospect of buying our first house and now we're worrying about potential problems. Definitely glad the bank are erring on the side of caution though so hopefully it will all work out!

    Hopefully so, we have been there for 3/4 years and there isn't a crack in the wall! :-)


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