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The AVB Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    AVB out no points, no goals, nothing this year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    Levy out - nothing won this year, no new stadium, no new signing. Out out out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭markesmith


    Let's sack the whole squad and start again, clean slate. Out out out


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    Bloody hell the media do my nut.

    AVB has the team playing well and all the press say us he isn't doing as good as Harry would.

    Liverpool win back to back games for just the second time this season and the media all talk about how Rodgers philosophy is finally coming good and how great he is for sticking with it.

    It's just ridiculous!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭golfball37


    I'll hold off on the praise until we start looking like we'll beat inferior teams at home without too much trouble. Away from home we look great but we still cannot keep a clean sheet or put teams away.

    I'm of the opinion we should be finishing 2nd with our squad but one thing I'm really happy about is Lloris. He looks like a title winning keeper in the making.
    2 good strikers and another top class full back wouldn't go amiss but onwards and upwards.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    We need that top class forward in order to put teams away. We are certainly creating enough chances and outplaying them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭Hatch99


    We need that top class forward in order to put teams away. We are certainly creating enough chances and outplaying them.

    Imagine we had a top striker, we'd have another 10/15 added to our goal difference by now


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Antisocialiser


    When managers outside the top 5/6 see spurs on the fixture list every one of them would be over the moon with a point. This is why they set up to get a point (and we sometimes get caught on the break). Having that magic player who can do unlock defenses is how teams like United are able to consistently get results against the 'lesser' teams.

    If you look at RVP's skill, technique and genuine willingness to do everything possible to win it's no wonder United are top of the league. He dragged Arsenal into third kicking and screaming last year for Christ's sake.

    If we get our RVP '11 or Torres '08 there is no doubt we can challenge.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭KingdomYid


    We need that top class forward in order to put teams away. We are certainly creating enough chances and outplaying them.

    Totally agree with this, we need an RVP or Aguero who will bang in the goals in every game they play.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Leinstersqspur




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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


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  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭Pure Sound


    He is now statisticallly better then Harry Redknapp was for spurs as regard to win percentage. As win percentages go he is the third most successful in history. Not a bad start. He also has a better win percentage for Spurs then Chelsea

    Villas Boas W 53.3% L 23.3% D 23.3%

    Redknapp W 49.5% L 25.3% D25.3%

    Jol W 45.3% L 25.7% D 29%

    Statistics don't really mean an awful lot but they certainly look good for him. Consistency is picking up too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭Hatch99




  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭Hatch99



    Hope it doesn't put the mockers on us ahead of tomorrow


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Delighted for him, and look forward to hammering QPR tomorrow :P


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    I think itll be a cracker of a game, might even make defoe my captain in FF


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/8398024/Andre-Villas-Boas-admits-to-having-made-mistakes-during-Chelsea-reign

    Dont get me wrong, the guy is doing ever so well and I've really warmed to his personalty in recent months but he needs to leave the chelsea thing in the past. Its like listening to your girlfriend talk about an ex-boyfriend all the time. Move on!


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/8398024/Andre-Villas-Boas-admits-to-having-made-mistakes-during-Chelsea-reign

    Dont get me wrong, the guy is doing ever so well and I've really warmed to his personalty in recent months but he needs to leave the chelsea thing in the past. Its like listening to your girlfriend talk about an ex-boyfriend all the time. Move on!

    I suppose he's just answering the questions being asked o him, so it's like listening to your girlfriend talk about their ex because you asked about him :P I do hope he tells the press that he's spoken enough about chelsea..soon :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    There is no harm talking about mistakes you've learned from, it's an ego thing when you're glad you moved on


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,910 ✭✭✭Sugarlumps


    The man obviously doesn't like to fail and has high expectations which is only good for Tottenham.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    I may get used to it as its only going to get worse in the lead up to the return fixture.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭yiddo59


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    How AVB earned his Spurs



    Andre Villas-Boas has overcome a sticky start at Tottenham to get his team challenging Chelsea for a Champions League place and is looking far more at home at White Hart Lane than he ever did at the Bridge

    Jack Pitt-Brooke

    Friday, 18 January 2013
    When Manchester United come to White Hart Lane tomorrow, they will be on Andre Villas-Boas's patch. Not just the ground where he works, the pitch he surveys, but where he belongs, which he controls and where he exerts his character.



    Overtaking Chelsea would mean a lot to Villas-Boas for obvious reasons. Before Tottenham hosted Chelsea last October he would not be drawn on his feelings regarding his former employers. Today, though, he did firmly make clear that he would never return to work at Stamford Bridge. And, having now found a club that suits him, why would he?
    Tottenham is now probably a calmer place than it has been at any point since that great run in late 2011, before their last season spun out of control. Villas-Boas and the Spurs fans finally understand each other. Their first few meetings were tense. White Hart Lane was an anxious place for 1-1 late summer draws with West Browmich Albion and Norwich City, and a 2-1 victory over Queen's Park Rangers in which Spurs were outplayed for the first half.
    But the mood has changed. Tottenham have won seven of their last eight home games in all competitions. On New Year's Day they hosted Reading and conceded in the third minute. But there were no nerves, no jeers, and Spurs rolled the Royals over in the second half.
    "The fans are relaxed when the team wins," said Villas-Boas today. "It is a consequence of the results we've had. We had a tremendous atmosphere the other day in our game against Coventry.I think the fans can really make a difference when they want so I am sure in a big game you will hear them."
    Of course, Manchester United will provide a rather different challenge from Coventry City. Villas-Boas will somehow have to stop the front-line pair of Wayne Rooney and Robin van Persie, which he believes is the best in the Premier League. "It is a very, very strong partnership at the moment," he said. "The individual talent is absolutely amazing."
    And he will have to stop them without Sandro – "the best recoverer of the ball in the Premier League", according to his manager – who is out for the season with knee surgery. Scott Parker will return in his place.
    Villas-Boas was speaking, as he does at least once a week with humour and candour, at Tottenham's new training ground. Spurs, as well as changing their manager, changed their daily base last year, and the two moves almost seem to reinforce each other.
    Just as Spurs Lodge in Chigwell – traditional yet informal, slightly haphazard, maybe too open – was the perfect place for Harry Redknapp, the new £50m venue in Enfield – unashamedly modern, perfectly planned, reliant on science – reflects Villas-Boas's personality and approach. If Villas-Boas was brought in as the anti-Harry, the counter-Redknapp, then Tottenham have moved to fit.
    The players themselves, it seems, are better suited to Villas-Boas here than they were at Chelsea. Villas-Boas is a coach with a clear idea of how the game ought to be played. At Chelsea he found a rather different approach deeply ingrained.
    Here, though, he has a set of young, flexible players keen to learn and follow his approach. Sandro, Kyle Walker, Aaron Lennon and Gareth Bale are all aged between 23 and 25. The best of his new signings, Mousa Dembélé and Hugo Lloris, are 25 and 26 respectively. Gylfi Sigurdsson is 23 and Lewis Holtby, scheduled to arrive in the summer but subject to a push to bring that forward, is 22.
    The fact that Villas-Boas has more malleable material in his hands than Jose Mourinho's old veteran-set certainly helps. And so there is less of the tension and discord that coloured his time in south-west London. He is very popular with everyone at Spurs, just as he was at Porto.
    At Chelsea, Frank Lampard described his relationship with Villas-Boas as "not ideal", and the lack of a bond with the senior players, also including Ashley Cole, was one of the problems as their season collapsed in the winter. Alex and Nicolas Anelka were famously banished from first-team training as they wanted to leave.
    There is none of that at Tottenham. Spurs players have spoken repeatedly of Villas-Boas's personal touch. "Everyone in the club can speak to him," Sandro told The Independent earlier in the season. "It's not a place where he has particular favourites he can speak to who pass his message to the rest of the team. His door is always open."
    Steven Caulker, who has been brought through this season and made 19 starts already, has also praised Villas-Boas's personal touch. "It's not nice when there are favourites," he said. "But the manager is not like that and I'm happy."
    Even the difficult issue of the transition from Brad Friedel to Lloris was handled with the utmost delicacy. It felt pained at the time but Lloris is now established as goalkeeper and the issue is resolved.
    The evidence all speaks of a coach far more happy and comfortable than the man who was under such pressure at Chelsea and did not always look to be enjoying it. There is a sense in Portugal that, after Porto and Chelsea, he might want to work for a bigger club again. Villas-Boas is certainly ambitious but now, for the first time since his Porto triumphs of 2011, he is unambiguously in the right place.
    "Man United compete to win trophies," he said. "We want to do it in the future. We are building something in the club for us to be at that level."


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    Nice article. He certainly has the media on his side these days and he deserves it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    Stolen off Facebook:


    Tottenham Hotspur Supporters Club Ireland


    Just a quick note. Since our stoppage time defeat to Everton in early December, conceding 2 stoppage times goals, the AVB haters were all back out in full force. Instead of doing an ‘Arry and blaming injuries and the inexperienced Caulker, AVB set about rectify things and immediately changed our training set up. Vertonghen said they were now focusing on all the higher intensity work at the end of training sessions, when the players were more tired and concentration levels were at their lowest, to help with our habit of conceding late goals.

    Tottenham have not conceded a goal later than the 40th minute in the league since and in 14 games in all competitions, Umtiti's wonder strike for Lyon in the 55th minute has been the latest goal we've conceded.

    Coincidence or brilliant management?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,946 ✭✭✭SuprSi


    If that is true, and if it's not just a coincidence, the man is a genius. It also ties in with the fact that we seem to score more goals in the 2nd half, something like 75% of our goals? Plus, we keep going to the very end, as witnessed against Utd and Lyon. That makes for interesting reading.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,746 ✭✭✭irishmover


    But but but but... AVB is **** no? The media and Chelsea fans say so, so it must be true. Bring back Harry...

    Also like how some Chelsea fans are now saying they wish AVB was given longer. Guarantee these were the same fans calling for his head.

    He's not the perfect manager, no manager is, but he's much better than that irritating self righteous twat we've had the last 4 years. Looking forward to watching Harry Houdini finish Mark Hughes job in sinking QPR to the Championship.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    that's incredibly interesting 2nd row, thanks for sharing, its great to see that there is quantifiable systematic progress happening under AVB, I won't take a pop at Harry here, I've moved on and even though the bad he did was heartbreaking he did get us into a position where we could take the next step. I think that's happening now :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭Saab Ed


    irishmover wrote: »
    But but but but... AVB is **** no? The media and Chelsea fans say so, so it must be true. Bring back Harry...


    He's not the perfect manager, no manager is, but he's much better than that irritating self righteous twat we've had the last 4 years. Looking forward to watching Harry Houdini finish Mark Hughes job in sinking QPR to the Championship.

    I originally strongly objected to AVBs appointment. There's no disguising all of my opinions on him posted here and other places. I'm the first one to admit I'm wrong but ...

    We haven't actually progressed this season, others have regressed and the points tally proves it. Infact its probably fair to say, so have we but that's nothing to do with the manager and more to do with the chairman, albeit not being his choice to sell vdv and luca.

    Secondly, I'm no arry fan boy, he had to go after last years season end balls up. That said,like it it not, he has been our most successful modern day manager. He's the only manager to have nailed down fourth two seasons in a row. Let's hope AVB pulls off the same trick and more.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,746 ✭✭✭irishmover


    Saab Ed wrote: »
    I originally strongly objected to AVBs appointment. There's no disguising all of my opinions on him posted here and other places. I'm the first one to admit I'm wrong but ...

    We haven't actually progressed this season, others have regressed and the points tally proves it. Infact its probably fair to say, so have we but that's nothing to do with the manager and more to do with the chairman, albeit not being his choice to sell vdv and luca.

    Secondly, I'm no arry fan boy, he had to go after last years season end balls up. That said,like it it not, he has been our most successful modern day manager. He's the only manager to have nailed down fourth two seasons in a row. Let's hope AVB pulls off the same trick and more.

    Any manager who inherits a side with half the starting 11 not there for the majority of the season and having to mould a different team together will struggle to progress. Top 6 I said would have been a very good first season for AVB early on. To be in contention for as high as 2nd this late in the season is incredible. If Levy expected instant success from AVB he would be as much a fool as Abramovich is. I said initially two seasons is what he deserves to ether make it or blow it. So far he's exceeding my personal expectations and I can only hope Levy's aswell.

    I was never a Redknapp fan. There was a reason why fans of every club he used to manage hated him the instant he left. He loves himself. Every time he spoke as a Spurs manager (probably 3-4 times a day) to the media I got more and more embarrassed. I didn't say AVB was a bad appointment because I just wanted Redknapp gone.

    I dread to think who would be playing for Spurs and where we could have been if Redknapp was still manager.


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