Do you put your seat back on flights?

Promac

I recline on long-hauls. Don't bother on short-hauls. Try flying to New Zealand in the upright position. If you don't like it ask to be moved. Some laugh from you lot who jam your knees in though.

Only once has anyone complained about me reclining a seat on a long haul - it was a sour-faced old bat at about 5 foot 2 and she was told where to go.

Kintarō Hattori

Am I the only one who considers the upright position more comfortable than the reclined position?

fishy fishy

steve9859 wrote: »

I would, and have, constantly hit the seat in front and pushed it back until they have turned around to ask what the h*ll I am doing. So I tell them, and either they stop or a fligh attendant moves me. Simples and a win win for me.....at 6 foot 5 and 16+ stone the cabin crew aren't going to give out as you're clearly in an inadequate space

next time, instead of abusing the person in front - just ask to be moved - less drama all round. and if you are as big as you say, you should have the common sense to book the front row. Spare a thought for the person sitting BESIDE you. but, it seems to be all about you. :roll eyes:

you would need to be more careful about what you are doing to fellow passengers on planes my friend.

dudara

I generally don't recline - and I hate the invasion of personal space. The legroom factor doesn't even come into it as I'm only 5", but I really hate when that headrest comes backwards into my face.

The other problem is that I can't comfortably use my laptop when someone reclines. I can fly up to 100+ times a year (mainly for work) and I generally will have my laptop out and working. When someone reclines, it takes away the space for your laptop lid to open up.

The only time I ever recline is on nighttime flights, and even then, it's only the bare 2 inches.

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love the pole options. reminds me of something peta would sat

option a: yes i love cute animals
option b: i hate cute animals and want to shove needles into their eyes

Oranage2

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I recline if I need to. But I go over it with the person who's behind me first. Is it *that* hard to ask instead of just assuming that only assholes push back?

The person behind might say no so why take that risk, the trick is to slowly put it back an inch, then 15 minutes later put it back another inch and so on and the person behind wont really notice.

The way to beat the person using their knees to stop the movement is to place your feet tightly under the seat in front usually a metal bar, then use the head rest in front as leverage by placing your hands on it, then with your body weight and arm strength force your seat back, the person behind may try to also force your seat forward so the trick is to lock you seat after every trust back then release and do another trust/ lock.

At this point somebody may say something to you, most people wont but there will be one or 2 heroes that have something to say. Put in some head phones and just ignore them, the may also tap you on the shoulder or bang your seat but still ignore them.

Patrick2010

Oranage2 wrote: »

The person behind might say no so why take that risk, the trick is to slowly put it back an inch, then 15 minutes later put it back another inch and so on and the person behind wont really notice.

The way to beat the person using their knees to stop the movement is to place your feet tightly under the seat in front usually a metal bar, then use the head rest in front as leverage by placing your hands on it, then with your body weight and arm strength force your seat back, the person behind may try to also force your seat forward so the trick is to lock you seat after every trust back then release and do another trust/ lock.

At this point somebody may say something to you, most people wont but there will be one or 2 heroes that have something to say. Put in some head phones and just ignore them, the may also tap you on the shoulder or bang your seat but still ignore them.

How considerate of you.
At 6 ' 2" I have no leg room starting off so if the seat in front reclines my legs are actually trapped. Its not a question of being hero, I have no choice but to complain before the blood supply stops.

Mr Benevolent

No, I take it with me as a souvenir.

Oranage2

Patrick2010 wrote: »

How considerate of you.
At 6 ' 2" I have no leg room starting off so if the seat in front reclines my legs are actually trapped. Its not a question of being hero, I have no choice but to complain before the blood supply stops.

I'm 6'0 and dont have any problems, I'm not sure what airlines people fly but I think the leg room issue is slightly exaggerated.

fishy fishy

there are three ways of looking at this.

1. You are 6ft 5inches or whatever - you are booking your seat on the plane - you think "I know that I may be uncomfortable in my seat if the person in front of me wants to recline - but hell, I'm gonna book that seat anyway, and if he DARES upset MY COMFORT I'm gonna mess with him so much that he will regret it.

2. You are 6 ft 5 inches or whatever - you are booking your seat on the plane - you think " I know that I may be uncomfortable in my seat if the person in front of me wants to recline - hell, maybe I should consider booking a seat by a door with more legroom or a more suitable seat for me and my long legs.

3. You are 6 ft 5 inches or whatever - you are booking your seat on the plane - you think " I know that I may be uncomfortable in my seat if the person in front of me wants to recline - hell, I'll just have to put up with it. He paid just as much for his ticket as mine - he's entitled to recline - guess I better suck it up.

Pleasae stop blaming other people for your own "discomfort". If you are uncomfortable, move seats. Simple.

VictorRomeo

I do. That's what the recline feature is for. And when it comes to silly bugger games like knees in the back, I can play them too. Before popping to the loo, push the seat back up. Then when sitting back down, sit back as fast and as hard as possible. Maybe knock a drink off their tray or something....

seven_eleven

I think people who have such a problem with this need to sort out their emotions or something like that. Its sad to think that somebody could get so upset over somebody moving a tiny few inches back into your space, which you also have the right to do.
You would swear it knocks all your food over, and slams against your knee's squashing you for the entire flight, when in reality it does none of that.

Skylinehead

VictorRomeo wrote: »

Then when sitting back down, sit back as fast and as hard as possible. Maybe knock a drink off their tray or something....

Yeah, you don't do this either. So many hard men on this thread for some reason.

Yamanoto

Patrick2010 wrote: »

How considerate of you.
At 6 ' 2" I have no leg room starting off so if the seat in front reclines my legs are actually trapped. Its not a question of being hero, I have no choice but to complain before the blood supply stops.

I'm also 6'2" and don't experience what you describe above on Aer Lingus, United, BA, Delta, Etihad or Lufthansa. Perhaps you're describing short-haul, where seat pitch may be less generous?

Auldloon

On long haul where I hope to sleep for several hours yes always recline. It's not my right to object to what the person in front does with their seat same as its nobody else's business what I do with mine.
The few times the person behind has continued to object, push the seat, poke me or whatever I let cabin crew deal with them.

BaronVonBacon

leggit wrote: »

And you never put your seat back because you'd be too afraid of what the big bad man behind you would do.

You just sit there quietly getting yourself all worried and visualising the comfort of putting your seat back if you were man enough to do it, despite it being moronic. Then, on arriving at your destination, you'd go tell all your friends that you put your seat back and you didn't care that the guy behind you was annoyed because you're a mad bastard and nothing gets in your way!

Now you've been talking absolute sh*te to strangers on an internet forum in an attempt to look smart and put other people down.

Sad.

Er, no. Just no.

Hannibal

If you pay for a seat you are entitled to put it back if you want because it's your seat. except during take off and landing. Your only option is to put your seat back in return

questionmark?

I like to gently kick the reclined seat in front of me for the duration of the flight if some ignorant asshole reclines their seat, in a Chinese torture/meditation sort of way. I also like to gently pull at strands of there hair (if applicable) whilst using turning the page of my paper as an excuse. I also like to move closer to people on buses that insist on taking up more than one seat and forcing me to sit on half a seat until they get the hint.

I love mass transport sometimes

Zulu

questionmark? wrote: »

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fishy fishy

questionmark? wrote: »

I like to gently kick the reclined seat in front of me for the duration of the flight if some ignorant asshole reclines their seat, in a Chinese torture/meditation sort of way. I also like to gently pull at strands of there hair (if applicable) whilst using turning the page of my paper as an excuse. I also like to move closer to people on buses that insist on taking up more than one seat and forcing me to sit on half a seat until they get the hint.

I love mass transport sometimes

shouldn't that be "their hair"

IHeartChemistry

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2198724/Swiss-Airlines-pilot-turns-men-brawling-midair.html

Brilliant

Motorist

IHeartChemistry wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2198724/Swiss-Airlines-pilot-turns-men-brawling-midair.html

Brilliant

Comment on the article "There use to be time when the cabin crew would ask that people did not recline the seats during the meal time. Seems to be a thing of the distant past now. The only thing that concerns people today is me, me and me."

TheChizler

Motorist wrote: »

IHeartChemistry wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2198724/Swiss-Airlines-pilot-turns-men-brawling-midair.html

Brilliant

Comment on the article "There use to be time when the cabin crew would ask that people did not recline the seats during the meal time. Seems to be a thing of the distant past now. The only thing that concerns people today is me, me and me."

They still do on any flight I've been served a meal on.

Kev.OC

I've been following this thread on and off for a few days now. It's lead me to the conclusion that every single person in the country above 6ft must be on here. I know there are always a few very tall people who'll genuinely be lacking any legroom, but the amount of people here claiming to be squashed is ridiculous. I used to fly a few times a year, usually medium/long haul. More often than not I put my seat back, for that little bit of extra comfort. And I've never had anyone pushing on my seat, kicking my seat, forcing their knees into my back, pulling at my hair, taking their shoes off any pushing their feet into the back of my arm, or any of the other various anti-reclining methods mentioned in the thread so far.

Either everyone here is exaggerating about the discomfort, or, more likely, there is a severe case of keyboard warriorism doing the rounds!

Quorum

Einhard wrote: »

I really don't see the problem. It's very uncomfortable to sit in a bolt upright position for 5-8 hours on a long haul flight. All the seats are made to recline, and if everyone does it, then nobody should lose out on any room. Instead of demanding everyone sit upright and be uncomfortable, why doesn't everyone simply recline, have the same amount of room, and be comfortable?

I totally agree. Which is why I think the following reply is ridiculously harsh:

beks101 wrote: »

This is precisely how I expected a chronic flight seat-backer to respond.

I bet you also hog the armrest because you're 'entitled' to do it and probably also put your bag on the seat beside you on buses/trains to prevent anyone from sitting beside you.

Petty crimes perhaps, but a fucking blight on the world of public transport that makes travel infuriatingly unconfortable for other passengers who actually have consideration for the people around them.

Reclining in your seat is not in the same league as hogging the armrest.

poisonated

It was getting the go bus between Dublin and Galway today. I awoke to find a woman with her seat back in front of me. This would be grand but the seat when ridiculously far back so I had very little room. The seat was literally squashing my legs. I'm not even very tall!

averageperson

fishy fishy wrote: »

would it not have been easier for you to move into one of the empty seats beside you and let the person recline his seat. or did you just want to be stubborn, therefore ruining the flight for you and for him. ?

I could have done that...but it was a window seat. Which I like. And once I had secured my personal space against frontal invasion, and instigated a retaliation campaign (exposed feet + air-con mistral) it was one of the most enjoyable flights of my life. Happy memories indeed!

ChewChew

I put my seat back on long haul. An hr or two flight, no. But ill always pull it forward at meal times etc.

Cookie_Monster

ChewChew wrote: »

I put my seat back on long haul. An hr or two flight, no. But ill always pull it forward at meal times etc.

^this^ and any airline I've experienced recently will ask everyone to keep or move the seat forward while meals are being served anyway.

on tight planes like ryanair it can be an issue but on most you have enough space and even pushing the seat fully back won't impact the person behind you - if it caused that much hassle they wouldn't make them movable.

Canis Lupus

Long haul on a normal fare carrier then yes because even in economy there is plenty of room and EVERYBODY puts the chair back anyway. When eating you're made sit the chair up. I'm 6ft and never had a problem so you'd want to be some long piece of string to be annoyed by someone on longhaul putting the chair back.

Short haul no particularly if it's on a budget plane but iirc chairs on Ryanair and the like recline about a cm so it's pointless.

Auldloon

averageperson wrote: »

I could have done that...but it was a window seat. Which I like. And once I had secured my personal space against frontal invasion, and instigated a retaliation campaign (exposed feet + air-con mistral) it was one of the most enjoyable flights of my life. Happy memories indeed!

You sound like a right knob.

averageperson

Auldloon wrote: »

You sound like a right knob.

I won't get in to the personal abuse thing, you win the online name-calling contest. Well done. Good luck with everything now, mind how you go...