Apple Granted Patent To Disable IPhone Cameras According To Location.

Dark Dude

seannash wrote: »

What sort of thing,technologial advancememts?

Read 1984, educated yourself. There's nothing corrupt officials want more than an uneducated, complacent public.

seannash

Dark Dude wrote: »

Read 1984

Sorry whats that in reference to,have you got a link to it?

Dark Dude

seannash wrote: »

Sorry whats that in reference to,have you got a link to it?

Educate yourself

Monty Burnz

Dark Dude wrote: »

Read 1984, educated yourself. There's nothing corrupt officials want more than an uneducated, complacent public.

I like the assumption that somebody hasn't read 1984. It's surely one of the most widely read books in the English language.

Dark Dude

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I like the assumption that somebody hasn't read 1984. It's surely one of the most widely read books in the English language.

You've never read it.

Monty Burnz

Dark Dude wrote: »

You've never read it.

Um...I did. I can see we are going to get along just fine...

Dark Dude

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Um...I did. I can see we are going to get along just fine...

You've never read it. You don't read outside of the internet.

seannash

Dark Dude wrote: »

Educate yourself

Well haven't you contributed nicely to this debate:rolleyes:

Monty Burnz

Dark Dude wrote: »

You've never read it. You don't read outside of the internet.

Really! Tell me more...about myself...

parrai

This is just the companies taking more control of their product... 30% of the market is power. It's not about apple, android or any other type of device operation system. Today it's iPhone. tomorrow it'll be android.

They are taking power back. 1 camera at the Kennedy Assassination, keeps the truth suppressed. Nowadays everyone is used to reaching for their phone at the drop of a hat, to record something or other. Events in the world are slowly becoming more transparent with people thinking and researching for themselves.

Yesterday it's, you can't look at this on the internet, today, its the camera on your iphone, tomorrow, your phone will ID you! lol Cut communications.

Dark Dude

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Really! Tell me more...about myself...

You need to get serious about conspiracies. 911 for example. I assume you aren't out on the streets protesting the obvious inside job and murder of thousands of people? Have a long hard look at yourself before you call yourself a freedom fighter.

seannash

Dark Dude wrote: »

You need to get serious about conspiracies. 911 for example. I assume you aren't out on the streets protesting the obvious inside job and murder of thousands of people? Have a long hard look at yourself before you call yourself a freedom fighter.

Definetly a troll

Dark Dude

seannash wrote: »

Definetly a troll

Lazy, easy stereotype to throw out when somebody makes you feel uncomfortable.

"All that's required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing..."

Edmund Burke

seannash

Dark Dude wrote: »

Lazy, easy stereotype to throw out when somebody makes you feel uncomfortable.

"All that's required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing..."

Edmund Burke

Not really,you are tell a poster that he's a freedon fighter when he has never once claimed to be one and then chastising him for not doing enough ground work on the streets to further the cause,a cause he's never claimed to be a part of.

So I guess your just a bull****ter then

Jonny7

Dark Dude wrote: »

You need to get serious about conspiracies. 911 for example. I assume you aren't out on the streets protesting the obvious inside job and murder of thousands of people?

I'm not sure if you are serious, but 911 being an inside job is still just a theory. How would it be brought to court? where is the definitive list of suspects and evidence linking them to the incident? as far as I know there are zero.

humanji

You can ignore that guy now, he's been sitebanned.

Monty Burnz

I think that must have been a failed attempt to attain Facekicker status. Anyway, back on topic.

namloc1980

Brown Bomber wrote: »

It should be clear to you.

Governments can commit crimes. Cameras can record evidence of crimes. If a government was to commit a crime, say Bloody Sunday, and shutdown the ability of some witnesses to record evidence of said crime then the possibility of justice is lessened.

And what about those who don't use iphones?

MrPudding

seannash wrote: »

As for the coordinates,if gps or tagging is turned off they can only track you when your making a call.
So your speculating

Not really a conspiracy person, but I would like to make a couple of points. The mobile can be tracked whether you are making a call or not. You phone is in constant communication with cell towers making sure you are connected to the one with the best signal. Unless you are in an area where you are only connected to one cell tower, you can be located reasonably accurately, certainly accurately enough to put you in the area of something like a large demonstration.

The second point is that one of the pre-requisites for being granted a patent is that you must have a licensing scheme so your competitors can use the patented technology. This is fairly strictly enforced to the extent that if you do not provide the licenses then the government will do it for you.

So, whilst I don't think there is anything particularly sinister about this development, it is simply not correct to say that only Apple phone will be effected. Other phone manufacturers will be able to use the technology, they will simply have to pay to use it. If you look at the details of any of the dozen of patent disputes the smartphone manufacturers are involved in they are typically looking for royalties to be paid.

MrP

seannash

MrPudding wrote: »

Not really a conspiracy person, but I would like to make a couple of points. The mobile can be tracked whether you are making a call or not. You phone is in constant communication with cell towers making sure you are connected to the one with the best signal. Unless you are in an area where you are only connected to one cell tower, you can be located reasonably accurately, certainly accurately enough to put you in the area of something like a large demonstration.



MrP

My Bad,was always under the impression that you needed to be on a call

Monty Burnz

MrPudding wrote: »

So, whilst I don't think there is anything particularly sinister about this development, it is simply not correct to say that only Apple phone will be effected. Other phone manufacturers will be able to use the technology, they will simply have to pay to use it. If you look at the details of any of the dozen of patent disputes the smartphone manufacturers are involved in they are typically looking for royalties to be paid.

MrP

Seems like an odd feature for other phone manufacturers to pay good money for - it's hardly a selling point for their phones. "Hey customers - buy our phones that will track where you are and disable the camera if you are at a gig!"

MrPudding

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Seems like an odd feature for other phone manufacturers to pay good money for - it's hardly a selling point for their phones. "Hey customers - buy our phones that will track where you are and disable the camera if you are at a gig!"

Perhaps, but the fact remains that just because Apple have the patent does not mean other manufacturers won't have the feature, a patent does not remove technology from the market, it arguably makes it more available.

MrP

seannash

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/03/apple-patents-way-to-prevent-concert-piracy/

Better,less paranoid(IMO) explaination of its intended use here

[Jackass]

Having read the entire patent text, it seems that this is a wireless network that is designed to be able to change settings on a mobile device (1) if it has wireless enabled or (2) if it has bluetooth enabled and (3) is an apple compatible device to the technology used to access the phones.

It has the capacity to, but doesn't mean it will be used for, turning off a phone, putting it in a "sleep" mode, whereby you can not access the phone whilst in the area of the wireless without a password or at all. It can also change settings to dim the brightness (or indeed brighten) the screen settings of the phone, and it can also mute the ringtone.

Anyway, my conclusion of this device is basically a way to stop people using phones (and not any one particular function of a phone, such as filming or recording) in certain conditions, such as in a cinema or a theatre or on a plane, and not exactly aimed at political rallies or protests, as all other devices will still work regardless of this, and the main point being that you must have the settings pre-enabled to allow access to your device (WLAN) and I'm sure where it is used, you will be given pre-warning that you are entering such an area.

My opinion is that you can't celebrate technology when it completely enhances your civil liberties and freedom of speech (with the internet and cheap, worldwide access to the internet - or recording devices being on just about every person in the developed world, nothing can happen on this planet any more without it being on youtube within minutes) but then freak out about a NWO lock down when there's technology that is used to influence these devices (be it for copyright protection, and not what some call censorship, or if it is for controlling your own property and rights, such as not allowing recording devices in a cinema, or safety reasons, such as not allowing use of devices on a plane etc.).

Dude111

Run_to_da_hills wrote:

Just in time for up and coming social unrest, police brutality and martial law in the run up to and after the US presidential elections.

Indeed bud,they dont want anyone seeing things,etc......

MrPudding

[Jackass] wrote: »

Having read the entire patent text, it seems that this is a wireless network that is designed to be able to change settings on a mobile device (1) if it has wireless enabled or (2) if it has bluetooth enabled and (3) is an apple compatible device to the technology used to access the phones.

It has the capacity to, but doesn't mean it will be used for, turning off a phone, putting it in a "sleep" mode, whereby you can not access the phone whilst in the area of the wireless without a password or at all. It can also change settings to dim the brightness (or indeed brighten) the screen settings of the phone, and it can also mute the ringtone.

Anyway, my conclusion of this device is basically a way to stop people using phones (and not any one particular function of a phone, such as filming or recording) in certain conditions, such as in a cinema or a theatre or on a plane, and not exactly aimed at political rallies or protests, as all other devices will still work regardless of this, and the main point being that you must have the settings pre-enabled to allow access to your device (WLAN) and I'm sure where it is used, you will be given pre-warning that you are entering such an area.

My opinion is that you can't celebrate technology when it completely enhances your civil liberties and freedom of speech (with the internet and cheap, worldwide access to the internet - or recording devices being on just about every person in the developed world, nothing can happen on this planet any more without it being on youtube within minutes) but then freak out about a NWO lock down when there's technology that is used to influence these devices (be it for copyright protection, and not what some call censorship, or if it is for controlling your own property and rights, such as not allowing recording devices in a cinema, or safety reasons, such as not allowing use of devices on a plane etc.).

I would guess that the point is this; whatever is the current [alleged] intent for the invention, and however valid that might be, this particular technology has serious potential to be used for other more sinister purposes.

Personally I think it is a very interesting technology that has countless legitimate uses. I can see how it could be abused, but I have to say that I am not convinced that simply because something has the potential to be abused that it automatically follows that it will be abused.

MrP

shedweller

But it will. It always has!