Limerick improvement projects

keane2097

They can just fill the site with cement.

mastershake

geotrig wrote: »

From passing it quickly recently i thought it was ok and works where underway to repair it , from looking at that video i noticed some more damage than i realised was there on a quick pass ,real pity if they have to knock it

Hoping this isn't the case. We cannot afford to loose yet another georgian building in Limerick. Everything should be done to save the external frontage of the building.It appears from the footage that the external seems largely intact. Fingers crossed it can be saved.

CosmicFool wrote: »

Was wondering what was going on there. Thanks

You seem to be mixed up there. The former gasworks site on O'Curry street is currently undergoing land remediation to clean up the site. No building as far as i'm aware of is plannend there. The proposed Lidl is on the corner of St. Alphonsus Street and the dock road across from Dolans Warehouse

https://www.google.ie/maps/@52.6581579,-8.6391078,157m/data=!3m1!1e3

https://www.gasnetworks.ie/corporate/company/our-network/projects/current-and-planned/limerick-gasworks-remedia/

Paddico

phog wrote: »

The notification from Limerick Council mentioned demolition of the building as the reason for the road closure.

Surely they can keep the facade of the building?

Cookiemunster

Paddico wrote: »

Surely they can keep the facade of the building?

Nobody knows how much of it is to be demolished. All it said on the council site was 'demolition works'.

As I said earlier, the outer walls of the building may still be standing, but that does not mean that they're structurally sound. I'm sure they'd want to save as much as they can, but that may not be possible.

mastershake

Paddico wrote: »

Surely they can keep the facade of the building?

I had a look at the ongoing demolition works yesterday. It would seem that the floors and roof have been removed. I am optimistic though that the facade will not be demoilished as the brickwork at least externally seems in good condition. The external wall to the rear also appeared to be unscathed.

Berty

Hopefully it can be saved. Many years ago it was the buildling that housed the henry cecil on Lower Cecil Street.

That was not meant to be knocked at all, my mother was working in a clothes shop across the street when emergency services cleared all the buildlings. Seems some lad working in the basement using some equipment damaged/removed one of the building support stacks and the buildling became so unstable it had to come down.

So, surely the wall on the dock road should never have such a fate(as not 4/5 stories high with underground supports) unless some vehicle on the site manages to damage it beyond repair.

Cookiemunster

Berty wrote: »

Hopefully it can be saved. Many years ago it was the buildling that housed the henry cecil on Lower Cecil Street.

That was not meant to be knocked at all, my mother was working in a clothes shop across the street when emergency services cleared all the buildlings. Seems some lad working in the basement using some equipment damaged/removed one of the building support stacks and the buildling became so unstable it had to come down.

So, surely the wall on the dock road should never have such a fate(as not 4/5 stories high with underground supports) unless some vehicle on the site manages to damage it beyond repair.

Wall on the dock road? It's is a 4 storey over basement Georgian house on Barrington St we're talking about.

geotrig

I take it the risk now is the remaining walls have no support structure to help keep them upright,There was as tv programme on notre dame recently ,which although no real comparison ! showed the tricky/risky work in saving it was securing the building after the fire was put out.

Berty

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Wall on the dock road? It's is a 4 storey over basement Georgian house on Barrington St we're talking about.

I'll get my coat

Mc Love

Has anyone been down O'Curry St recently? The smell from gasworks is really bad, must be terrible for people living around it.

Insect Overlord

I've run and cycled past it a fair few times over the last few weeks. The smell isn't as bad as you're making it out to be.

Mc Love

Insect Overlord wrote: »

I've run and cycled past it a fair few times over the last few weeks. The smell isn't as bad as you're making it out to be.

I drove past it and its fairly rank to be honest.

Cookiemunster

Mc Love wrote: »

I drove past it and its fairly rank to be honest.

I drove past last week and got no smell. It probably depends on whats going on on site.

pigtown

Long term plans for greenways in the region have been published by the council. Hopefully they can be implemented

https://twitter.com/DanielButlerFG/status/1265319935011631106?s=19

geotrig

Mc Love wrote: »

I drove past it and its fairly rank to be honest.

has there not always been an on/off smell in that area ?

Treepole

Mc Love wrote: »

I drove past it and its fairly rank to be honest.

Ranks have been gone from that area for years.

Mc Love

geotrig wrote: »

has there not always been an on/off smell in that area ?

Might have been from National Rusks site.

Poxyshamrock

National Rusks smelled lovely! A waft of peppery goodness every time you passed by!

Cetyl Palmitate

Passed today. There is a strong smell. It could be fumes from the machinery currently on site although it's hard to tell. Presuming it's temporary.

They are doing a nice job on the wall surrounding the site. Hopefully they maintain those standards as works progress.

mrsoundie

Cetyl Palmitate wrote: »

Passed today. There is a strong smell. It could be fumes from the machinery currently on site although it's hard to tell. Presuming it's temporary.

They are doing a nice job on the wall surrounding the site. Hopefully they maintain those standards as works progress.

That smell is the remnants of the spent coal that was used to create coal gas. Link

I should have added that the spent coal is actually coke and tar like substance as well.

It was very common as a source of lighting around the World before electrification. The biggest problem was the disposal of the spent coal, it was almost a tar-like product, so the smell is very close to that. I can't remember any of the old coal gas lighting poles (article here).

There are a few dotted around Kilkee as I remember.

Cetyl Palmitate

mrsoundie wrote: »

That smell is the remnants of the spent coal that was used to create coal gas. Link

I should have added that the spent coal is actually coke and tar like substance as well.

It was very common as a source of lighting around the World before electrification. The biggest problem was the disposal of the spent coal, it was almost a tar-like product, so the smell is very close to that. I can't remember any of the old coal gas lighting poles (article here).

There are a few dotted around Kilkee as I remember.

Thanks. Interesting stuff.

The huge piles of excavated earth created in the last week have released those fumes in that case?

Mc Love

They were meant to have fans or something to combat the smell but they dont seem to have worked because when I was working on Henry st, could smell it as soon as I walked out of the building

Cookiemunster

Interest developments to try to entice people back into the city. https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/545701/urban-playground-planned-for-limerick-city-centre.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

The plan, entitled Guiding Limerick through Covid-19 will see many of the streets around the Milk Market and the old quarter shut off to cars, as the local authority bids to persuade families to travel into the city by bicycle or public transport.

Among the thoroughfares turned into walkways only – for the summer months initially – are Catherine Street, Denmark Street, Nicholas Street plus Mungret Street.

Speaking about these streets, Cllr Leddin said: “They lend themselves perfectly to pedestrianisation. As does Catherine Street, leading onto Lower Catherine Street and onto Thomas Street. These are pedestrianised, or semi-pedestrianised anyway. We are trying to make better use of public space and give people a reason to come back into the city centre.”

Even with the streets which will not be pedestrianised, it’s anticipated the pavements on these will be a lot wider to help hospitality traders respect the social distancing measures which will remain in place well into autumn.

there will be an extension of the cycle route along the Condell Road over Shannon Bridge and along Howley’s Quay.

There will also be new routes developed connecting the Limerick Institute of Technology, via New Road and High Road in Thomondgate and Clancy’s Strand by the river.​

Greenways will be looked at from the South Circular Road down Henry Street, as well from the Groody Roundabout to the Parkway and Clare Street into the centre of the city.

Berty

Mc Love wrote: »

They were meant to have fans or something to combat the smell but they dont seem to have worked because when I was working on Henry st, could smell it as soon as I walked out of the building

I drove passed earlier(dock road) and they have fans that appear to be swirling around a mist of some type. I did smell something, it has a heavy chemical smell. Smelled like the stuff you would seal underground structures/foundations against water ingress. May not be it, but a quick sniff driving passed reminded me of it.

mrsoundie

Cetyl Palmitate wrote: »

Thanks. Interesting stuff.

The huge piles of excavated earth created in the last week have released those fumes in that case?

Yes and I would add that the Company takes with doing the remediation have a misting system going around the site to keep down the dust. I have been passing it twice a day and the progression is something. I would be surprised if Dolans don't try and buy the site.

orangeocelot

Morning Ireland and Live 95 have had segments over the last few days on a 'Guiding Limerick through Covid-19' plan which apparently involves pedestrianising Catherine St and Denmark St, cycle route across Shannon bridge, etc.


Does anyone have a link to the actual document? I'm not sure if it's been released to the public yet?

Treehelpplease

orangeocelot wrote: »

Morning Ireland and Live 95 have had segments over the last few days on a 'Guiding Limerick through Covid-19' plan which apparently involves pedestrianising Catherine St and Denmark St, cycle route across Shannon bridge, etc.


Does anyone have a link to the actual document? I'm not sure if it's been released to the public yet?

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keane2097

Treehelpplease wrote: »

3 posts above you

That's a link to the Limerick Leader...?

orangeocelot

Treehelpplease wrote: »

3 posts above you

Oops somehow I missed that, although I've already seen the Leader article!

The actual document still seems nowhere to be found though, so I guess my question still stands.

keane2097

orangeocelot wrote: »

Oops somehow I missed that, although I've already seen the Leader article!

The actual document still seems nowhere to be found though, so I guess my question still stands.

I don't think it's been released yet.